Oldfag / Old Internet Sperging Thread - ILJ calls herself "anonymous," she is a hacker on steroids.

I've already talked about it in some other thread but the stark difference in the value of anonymity circa 2007 and 2021 still blows my mind. Unless you were a completely legitimate, and inoffensive business owner, no one I recall back then was straight up out with their full name.

Anonymity, and opsec is and forever will be a one-time offer. You cannot undo the removal of the veil, and for the average person online, I think you're beyond fucking stupid to ever willingly surrender that security. Even someone's face was a closely guarded secret- because there is absolutely zero utility to sharing it unless you are trying to fuck someone or be told you're good looking... two very bad reasons to do that. I'd guess that, for as easy as using the internet a decade+ ago was, it's even easier now, and the barrier to entry is non-existent.

I could be jaded, but people who started surfing less than a decade ago, or two decades, really baffle me with how foolhardy they are. You are never completely innocent in anyone's eyes. Just as there's an audience for anything, there is someone out there who will gleefully ruin your life for the flimsiest of reasons. It's a million times harder to fix an internet-fucked life than it is to just not tell every retard online everything short of your SSN. /boomer rant
 
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Fiveish said:
You are never completely innocent in anyone's eyes.
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Yeah, for the longest time that I can remember, people wouldn't even talk openly about doing drugs - they'd couch it in deniability language like "In a dream I was...." or "This was imaginary..." - even on Usenet/IRC. Everyone knew everything was being recorded and was acutely aware of how dangerous that was. Now people still know that everything is recorded, but they see that as a positive thing, part of being a mini-celebrity. It's a total tonal shift and it's weird AF.

I wonder how long they will take to regret it? The news coming out of Afghanistan is pretty chilling, with the Taliban using all the biometrics the US instituted and the Social Media the US promoted to identify enemies of the regime.

It reminds me of my first ever Facebook message to my best man, back in 2007 (which I can just pull up on my computer because EVERYTHING IS RECORDED.)

"4/30/07, 2:21 PM
You sent:

I seem to be getting forced into this facebook thing. I just got sent an invite to a local Avon MLM group from a chick I barely even knew in highschool. Part of me worries that this kind of social network (designed by Ivy-leauge secret society types) is the kind of willing rejection of personal privacy that will lead to torture camp commandants being able to say stuff like

"We know everything. Cross us, and everyone you know, every pair of lips that you've kissed, every hand that you've shook, will fall dead to the floor..."

Of course, it was all a dream...
 
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Fiveish said:
I could be jaded, but people who started surfing less than a decade ago, or two decades, really baffle me with how foolhardy they are. You are never completely innocent in anyone's eyes. Just as there's an audience for anything, there is someone out there who will gleefully ruin your life for the flimsiest of reasons. It's a million times harder to fix an internet-fucked life than it is to just not tell every retard online everything short of your SSN. /boomer rant
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Mobile internet + social media + digital natives = there is literally no such thing as your "real"/meatspace life as opposed to your "online" life. The so-called oldfags (who, honestly, aren't even that old, despite anyone over 21 being considered a geriatric on the internet) are still adjusting to this fact.

Point taken, though. Imagine going to the grocery store and broadcasting your full name, DOB, sexual orientation, photos your friends took of you blackout drunk puking in the street, and what vidya characters you like to fap to. With emojis. Lots of emojis.

Uncle Sid said:
It reminds me of my first ever Facebook message to my best man, back in 2007 (which I can just pull up on my computer because EVERYTHING IS RECORDED.)
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Thanks for reminding me to double-check that I've wiped all my FB statuses from my high school years.
 
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I think the only thing I remember fondly about 'old-internet' would've just been watching dubs/trips combo threads. For whatever reason the dumb confidence on Bale's face tickles me pink even to this day.
 
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Arctic said:
A litmus test for oldfags made by a newfag. If you know anything below level 1 you probably have no life.
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im too old to know what an iceberg even is in meme form and i dont care enough to learn so dont fucking reply

eta: anyway, @ me when someone finds that old website with a bunch of ways to kill yourself on it. it was in tt font, neon green font, and a black background. you know, hacker colors.
 
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Spotify and Youtube are shitty for a lot of reasons but I'm glad that I can actually find songs I want and be almost certain that they are what they say they are and that they won't infect my computer with malware.
 
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When you had to manually select a server to join there were actual communities that you could be a part of when you played the game. Griefing was a big part of that. You could see the same player every time you logged in and if it was someone you didn't like you could form a rivalry, troll them, etc. This would often spiral out of control into autistic server politics with factions splitting off, and truly hilarious shenanigans would ensue.

Now in the shit games zoomers play like Fortnite and Overwatch, there's no server browser. You get placed into a server of the game's choosing, often with protections in place that will put "problematic" players together in their own shadowbanned servers, skill match people so you'll never have to face players that are significantly more skilled than you are, filter game chat, and even permaban players for mild insults or rage.

Players went along quietly while all of the fun and user independence was stripped out of new releases and they deserve the gay baby jails that have been built around them.

Long live griefing.
 
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admiral said:
Spotify and Youtube are shitty for a lot of reasons but I'm glad that I can actually find songs I want and be almost certain that they are what they say they are and that they won't infect my computer with malware.
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Only true oldfags remember getting their MP3s from
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dirtydeanna96 said:
the dividing line between oldfag and newfas is definitively the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
were you using online services before January 3, 1996, when the government got their sticky fingers in here?
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I would say that the dividing line is this:
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ETA: Remember when all you had to do to get around "geofencing" was use a Canadian area code when the streaming TV website asked you for your area code?

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Long ago, my room mate and I both played Ultima Online. We had a few houses up near Dungeon Wrong on the Great Lakes shard.

One day I was retarded and was running around with one of the house keys on me. I got murdered by a new neighbor and we lost the house since this was before keys could be changed.

After a month of being constantly yelled at by my room mate for my stupidity, I figured out a plan. My room mate would befriend this person on another toon and gain his trust in order to initiate an ICQ conversation. The ICQ conversation would then allow for an IP and a subsequent winnuke once the fiend came outside to meet my room mate's decoy. He stood there motionless and was destroyed.

The plan worked. We cheered in autistic glee as we regained control of the house.
 
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dirtydeanna96 said:
the dividing line between oldfag and newfas is definitively the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
were you using online services before January 3, 1996, when the government got their sticky fingers in here?
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Guess what, without it 230 wouldn't exist either.
 
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