Oscars 2023

@Knyttet I honest to god called it when I found out Del Toro's Pinocchio won over shit like Turning Red as the latter is not Oscar worthy. I personally think the new Puss in Boots would've been a wild card.

I'm really proud of Fraser's win. He's really gonna have a great comeback.

Yea, I wish Top Gun Maverick would've won Best Editing, but still I'm not complaining.

For Adapted Screenplay, I wasn't surprised that Women Talking won. Because, as @Deadwaste put it, there were literally women talking.
 
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Übertroon said:
Any particular reason for it? Saw a trailer and read a plot synopsis and it seems so boring. Like they couldn't scare away the normies so everything had to be portrayed through a ridiculously mundane lense.
What's the point of multiverse conflicts if everything just looks like California and the conflict is about being sad because divorce, taxes, and my ugly fat daugther is gay?
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I really liked it. I'm not going to lie, EEAAO, Top Gun, and Puss in Boots were my three favorite films last year, and since Puss in Boots didn't even win Best Animated Movie (to be fair, I forgot there were two Pinocchios, so maybe Del Toros was actually good), and since I knew Top Gun wasn't winning, this was the best choice.

The best way to describe this movie is that it came out at the same time as Dr. Strange 2, yet it was a better Multiverse movie than Dr. Strange, which I found hilarious.

Also, lol at Short Round and Branden Fraser not being memes any more.
 
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i'll have to find the tweet again (i didn't bother clicking)
but basically "oh no, black wasn't given award for being black... waycism"
 
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i haven't really seen all of these but i would definitely pick banshees over EEAAO in the best screenplay section. though it's a close call the latter definitely suffers from its "this is reddit. this is memes." reputation. not suprising it apparently started writing circa 2012 when its brand of LOLRANDUM was still in vogue. (and note that even reddit is sick of that stuff now) banshees of course kind of has its own problems like the modern lens it sees the rural west ireland of 1920s in, but its downsides don't drag the script down as much. the best picture for me would probably be between those films (keep in mind i haven't even seen all quiet yet) so i'm kind of unsure
 
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All in all I found them pretty compelling this year since I saw Top Gun, Elvis and The Banshees of Inisherin, all of which I loved, so I actually had some skin in the game and stuff to root for, I'm not even sure when the last time I saw a Best Picture nominee before the Oscars was.

As a big Indiana Jones and Goonies fan it's pretty cool that Short Round/Data has an Oscar, I've not watched Everything. Everywhere All at Once yet, but I'd like to, seems a worthy enough movie, it's interesting that one of the co-directors comes from an Adult Swim background, so a guy that directed episodes of Adult Swim shows has now gotten best director and best picture, that's pretty funny.

I was rooting for Austin Butler but was very happy for Brendan Fraser even though I haven't seen The Whale yet.



Deadwaste said:
of course it'd win. its women talking
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The question should be though, men listening?
 
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I was rooting for Austin Butler but was very happy for Brendan Fraser even though I haven't seen The Whale yet.
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I honestly wanted Fraser to win by a longshot, yet I also thought that Austin Butler would be a strong wild card just in case.
 
Well I did end up watching The Whale and Everything Everywhere.... because Oscar prestige admittedly has an effect on me. So here's my thoughts on the winners, I do intend to watch Banshees in the immediate future. Here's my thoughts:

The Whale
It's Oscarbait, but good Oscarbait. Kudos the Aronofsky for going back to what he knows best which is depressioncore indies because God I could not take "Noah" or "Mother!" remotely seriously. I found the script to be razorsharp, I loved how this film was not at all trying to make you particiularly like the characters. Ellie, Charlie's daughter is the most sympathetic as she grows up in a broken household but she is a manipulative little bitch. Charlie's caretaker Liz comes off as the most caring of the cast but she's a horrible enabler and the movie shows the horrendous toxic relationship between Deathfats & their enablers, made me think of "My 600 Pound Life" and our gorl Amberlynn Reid. I remember some complaining about the film being Anti-Christian but I saw no condemnation of any religious group or even a political movement which was refreshing. At one point Charlie is watching TV and they're discussing the 2020 Republican Primaries and he doesn't give a flying fuck or launch into a political screed it's just background noise to him. There's the character of Thomas who does represent a young social conservative but we find out that he's a fraud just like pretty much all the characters. Ultimately I really enjoyed this film, it is a depressing movie but the message I found is that there can be a spiritual redemption for everyone. And lastly kudos to the makeup artists and most of all Brendan Fraser who deserved his statue, he really did look like a Deathfat who would have a 1000 page thread on Kiwifarms if he was active on social media. There's even a part of the film where Ellie makes a generic meme of her father and it just made me think of Kiwifarms. Probably the closest thing we'll get to a true Lolcow movie until The Chris Chan Biopic. 8/10.

Everything Everywhere All At Once
I'll just cut to the chase I thought this was an overindulgent mess. A "What if Rick & Morty was done by artschool grads?" And on that alone I would not actually hate but I found the movie exceedingly sloppy. There's just so many scenes where they repeat the same plot details OVER AND OVER AGAIN. How many times did we need to revisit the silly gag alternate universes? How many times did we need to hear the daughter screech about how meaningless it all is? How do you have a movie where you got a Ratatouille Parody with a Racoon voiced by the Great Randy Newman and it wears out its welcome? It was funny when Yeoh jumps on the guys head and starts controlling him via his hair and then at the end she has him controlling her and it just made me want to yell "WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?" I feel a whole 20 minutes could have been cut out of this film and it would have been a far superior movie. It just overstayed its welcome.

To get back to the topic I do feel the this movie didn't deserve giving these actors best performances. Nothing is inherently wrong with the performances but they're in a action-comedy with a generic "Love your family despite how meaningless life can be." For crying out loud that is true but it's not remotely profound, I learned that in elementary school with "The Golden Rule." I find it hard to believe Huy Quan gave a better performance than Brendan Gleeson or Yeoh was better than Cate Blanchette. But whatever, if the Universe is meaningless there's no doubt Oscar statues are meaningless as well so I guess I'm still happy that Huy Quan got his moment in spotlight because he comes off as a nice dude. 6/10 it wasn't bad but it could have been so much more with a stronger editor.
 
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TVBForever said:
@Knyttet I honest to god called it when I found out Del Toro's Pinocchio won over shit like Turning Red as the latter is not Oscar worthy. I personally think the new Puss in Boots would've been a wild card.

I'm really proud of Fraser's win. He's really gonna have a great comeback.

Yea, I wish Top Gun Maverick would've won Best Editing, but still I'm not complaining.

For Adapted Screenplay, I wasn't surprised that Women Talking won. Because, as @Deadwaste put it, there were literally women talking.
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I think the only reason Pinocchio won over Turning Red was the very wise move of naming it Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, thus the people who vote normally for Disney/ Pixar movies without watching the norms will go and reward the past Oscar winner instead.

Del Toro's Pinocchio was the best of those movies, but that rarely matter when it comes to the animation Oscar.
 
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Honestly speaking, I'd say Top Gun deserved the Best Film, Best Adapted Screenplay (objectively better than Woman King), & Best Visual Effects.

I don't like EEAAO much, but Stephanie Hsu definitely deserved it over Jamie Lee Curtis. Also, how in the fuck did Puss in Boots not win is beyond me, I'm just happy it's not the Disney Pinocchio winning.
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Yeah RRR should've had a best foreign film nomination, and it deserved better.
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That one is technically on India itself, or to be more precise, The Film Federation of India (FFI) who chooses the films to send to Oscars. They almost sent a ripped-off film at first (The Chhello Show, "inspired" by Cinema Paradiso) instead of a film that was pretty much a borderline instant win in International Film Section. It wasn't in the nominations, meaning they didn't sent that, or anything (like RRR) in exchange for it, & Elephant Whisperer went for Short Documentary & actually won alongside Naatu Naatu.

A retarded committee made of egoistic artsyfags, who didn't want to dilate the Britoids in the committee fucked "us" (him & Indians) another Oscar which was almost sure-shot ours.

As per my homie, the same thing happened in India last year, for the same reason when they made an IRL grounded revenge story on a British guy from an Indian guy, It's actually good & people wanted it to go for Oscars. But the FFI didn't send it. The film is called Sardar Udham btw, kino in my book.
 
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RACISM said:
Might actually be worth a watch if you know the champagne socialists don't like it and everyone else does.
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Brendan Fraser is great and the fat suit is incredibly impressive, but it's some guy's first play from a decade ago, and it really shows - in the staginess, in the politics of it, even in how it portrays gayness. I don't think the film is particularly good, but he really gives a great performance. Jimmy Kimmel pointed out he and Ke Huy Quan were in Encino Man together, which was a funny parallel.

The only animated film of the bunch I've seen is Marcel the Shell with Shoes On, which I thought was charming as hell. Can't judge it against its competition, though.

I think Kerry Condon should have won Supporting Actress, but Jamie Lee Curtis has longevity, iconic roles and Hollywood heritage on her side. I don't even think she was bad at all, I just thought Condon was better.

The usual places are trying to force the identity politics of it all - look, Asians won things! - but it definitely seems more muted this year. Probably because it's not black people so it doesn't 'count' as much, but also I think because a lot of people genuinely loved the film, so the racial angle to fend off criticism isn't necessary.

You don't realise how good you have it with fairly generic 'follow your dreams' speeches until you've had a couple of years of DEI bullshit masquerading as a pointless Hollywood ceremony. I still think Triangle of Sadness is facile bullshit, though, and don't know why it was nominated for anything - and not just because who wants to watch 20 minutes of shitting and vomiting?
 
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