Am I bad person for thinking maybe he deserved to be bullied if he was this much of a dick when he was a kid?
Also, that young woman he's following/stalking on Twitter would do well to tell him to leave her alone. Eventually, he'll get bored of admiring from afar. He's too autistic to get the hints she's dropping about not being interested. She needs to bluntly tell him to fuck off, then block him. I'm getting serious stalker vibes from him.
He's got such a massive sense of entitlement that he probably feels that she owes him a sympathy fuck for all of the years of torture and bullying he endured as a sped. Reparations, if you will.
Is it just me, or does Petey have a real thing for violence? His fanfics are often filled with violent revenge fantasies and he's defended psycho killers and school shooters. I'm sensing a pattern here....
It's a good thing the nasty little tard will never be able to get his hands on a gun (at least not legally).
He's got such a massive sense of entitlement that he probably feels that she owes him a sympathy fuck for all of the years of torture and bullying he endured as a sped. Reparations, if you will.
Is it just me, or does Petey have a real thing for violence? His fanfics are often filled with violent revenge fantasies and he's defended psycho killers and school shooters. I'm sensing a pattern here....
No doubt he believes that those murderers were simply pushed too far and it's all society's fault for not accommodating then. No doubt this stems from his own experiences and his inability, no, outright refusal to move on.
his interest in luann (fucking of course he likes luann, it's a syndicated newspaper comic about a teenage girl struggling to fit in in suburbia... seeing a pattern here?) is attested to in some blog posts: http://dariabitch.blogspot.com/2008/01/nominees.html http://dariabitch.blogspot.com/2007/08/top-10-things.html
just ctrl-f "docforbin" on those and you get some quality discussion of him by daria people, generally referring to him claiming to "do what he wants" like luann. that's also on his daria wiki talk page
he talks about "moving on" on the gocomics.com page linked to elsewhere in this thread, also. i've bolded the part that most accurately describes the challenge of docforbin:
I’m sick and tired of people saying Luann has to “move on” like Delta and Bernice want her to. Do you know what moving on means? Moving on is an admission of defeat. Moving on is a sign of weakness. Moving on means having to settle for second best, and in Luann’s case second best means having to settle for Gunther, a loser geek nerd who will NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING!
In other words, moving on is for LOSERS!
Do you know why Tiffany is a winner? Because REAL winners like Tiffany do what they want and continue to pursue their goals no matter what the cost, and that means lying, cheating, stealing, conniving and backstabbing. . .all things Tiffany is VERY good at.
If Luann wants to be a winner, she should beat Tiffany up to a bloody pulp, tell off Quill for the jerk he is, then run away to Hawaii and reunite with Aaron Hill, who is the ONLY person who can give Luann the happiness she’s been seeking all her life.
his interest in luann (fucking of course he likes luann, it's a syndicated newspaper comic about a teenage girl struggling to fit in in suburbia... seeing a pattern here?)
he definitely gets something out of identifying with the title character though, who he perceives to be constantly fucked over by basically everyone in her life because she is an individual... or something, i dunno
from the link above:
<DocForbin> Why don't you just give up trying to change me, HJ? I 'm gonna do what I want when I want it how I want
it and nothing you can say can change my mind.
<HentaiJess> i'm not trying to change you. you're not worth my effort.
<DocForbin> I'm like Luann. She'll continue pursuing Aaron Hill despite Delta and Bernice telling her to give up on
him beacuse she won't be happy until Aaron's all hers. I'm not gonna give up until Crossada gets his--one way or the
other.
it was more like 12 or 13 years. peter showed up in the daria fandom sometime between late 1997 - early 1998, after the first season of the show ended. there have been a number of different daria chatrooms over the years and he's been banned from most of them. he made a splinter channel after being banned from the main chatroom (this was prior to his 2010 banning) and to the best of my knowledge he still hangs out in there alone, waiting for people to show up so he can tell them how awful it is to push around and bully special ed students for the umpteenth time. no one ever shows up.
he would ask underaged girls extremely specific questions about what they liked to wear. he had a fixation on redheads and girls playing field hockey in skirts. he creeped out or sexually harassed most if not all of the female daria fans who would show up to chat, to the point where a few people just stopped participating. and we always had to cut him a break because he was the real victim, not the poor girl he was bothering and he wasn't responsible for anything he did or said because "i have behavior problems".
when he showed up at first i kind of assumed that he was a guy in his late teens who was really socially inept. nope, he was actually closer to 35 at that point and he's been obsessing about how shitty high school was for him pretty much since the day after graduation. when he wrote triumph of the retart, he made a huge deal out of the story's title containing the word "retart" and not "retard". he still insists that his fanfic was revolutionary and awesome and totally helped people realize how awful it is to bully special ed students. what a novel idea, especially when you're preaching to a bunch of nerds who watched a cartoon where a sarcastic teenage girl totally put those dumb ken-and-barbie quarterbacks and cheerleaders in their place!
there was a point several years ago where he seemingly came to his senses after freaking out at his poor decrepit parents for something and promised that he'd try to get along with people, talk about stuff that wasn't related to bullying special ed/autistic kids or promoting his fanfics (or his "position papers" which were just preachy essays that he wrote at the rate of about 1 a week) and try to look for some kind of therapy or anger management assistance. i don't remember how long it took him to go back on that but it had to have been less than a year.
when he found out that his high school was having a class reunion and he couldn't afford to go, he sent the reunion planners a big long letter about how angry he was at the way he was treated back then and how bullying is such a horrible thing and demanded that they read it to everyone at the reunion. he posted a copy of the letter on his myspace page and actually got a few responses from people who he'd gone to school with. no one denied that he had been bullied or teased during high school, but it seemed like people mostly remembered that the people teasing him would make fun of his fixation with garfield and would tell him that garfield was dead so they could see him freak out.
it is unfortunate that he is such a unrepentant asshole because i still think that the majority of people he interacted with online, at least a little bit, really did feel bad that he had such a shitty time of it growing up and that bullying obviously hurt him very deeply. but he refuses to move on with his life in any meaningful fashion and he continues to beat the same dead horse that he has been beating for decades, so here we are, i guess.
it was more like 12 or 13 years. peter showed up in the daria fandom sometime between late 1997 - early 1998, after the first season of the show ended. there have been a number of different daria chatrooms over the years and he's been banned from most of them. he made a splinter channel after being banned from the main chatroom (this was prior to his 2010 banning) and to the best of my knowledge he still hangs out in there alone, waiting for people to show up so he can tell them how awful it is to push around and bully special ed students for the umpteenth time. no one ever shows up.
he would ask underaged girls extremely specific questions about what they liked to wear. he had a fixation on redheads and girls playing field hockey in skirts. he creeped out or sexually harassed most if not all of the female daria fans who would show up to chat, to the point where a few people just stopped participating. and we always had to cut him a break because he was the real victim, not the poor girl he was bothering and he wasn't responsible for anything he did or said because "i have behavior problems".
when he showed up at first i kind of assumed that he was a guy in his late teens who was really socially inept. nope, he was actually closer to 35 at that point and he's been obsessing about how shitty high school was for him pretty much since the day after graduation. when he wrote triumph of the retart, he made a huge deal out of the story's title containing the word "retart" and not "exceptional individual". he still insists that his fanfic was revolutionary and awesome and totally helped people realize how awful it is to bully special ed students. what a novel idea, especially when you're preaching to a bunch of nerds who watched a cartoon where a sarcastic teenage girl totally put those dumb ken-and-barbie quarterbacks and cheerleaders in their place!
there was a point several years ago where he seemingly came to his senses after freaking out at his poor decrepit parents for something and promised that he'd try to get along with people, talk about stuff that wasn't related to bullying special ed/autistic kids or promoting his fanfics (or his "position papers" which were just preachy essays that he wrote at the rate of about 1 a week) and try to look for some kind of therapy or anger management assistance. i don't remember how long it took him to go back on that but it had to have been less than a year.
when he found out that his high school was having a class reunion and he couldn't afford to go, he sent the reunion planners a big long letter about how angry he was at the way he was treated back then and how bullying is such a horrible thing and demanded that they read it to everyone at the reunion. he posted a copy of the letter on his myspace page and actually got a few responses from people who he'd gone to school with. no one denied that he had been bullied or teased during high school, but it seemed like people mostly remembered that the people teasing him would make fun of his fixation with garfield and would tell him that garfield was dead so they could see him freak out.
it is unfortunate that he is such a unrepentant asshole because i still think that the majority of people he interacted with online, at least a little bit, really did feel bad that he had such a shitty time of it growing up and that bullying obviously hurt him very deeply. but he refuses to move on with his life in any meaningful fashion and he continues to beat the same dead horse that he has been beating for decades, so here we are, i guess.
I see you're new here, welcome to Kiwi Farms. May I ask if you're from the Daria fandom? You seem to know a lot about Peter/Docforbin. Thank you for the insight
i used to be part of it but now i'm mostly a spectator. i actually came here looking for iconoclast/dr belch's thread but noticed that doc had one of his own so i thought i'd check it out.
the thing about peter is that even though he is super spergy and weird, he isn't the spergiest/weirdest person from daria fandom by far. he's just the one with the biggest online presence, and he's stuck around far, far longer than most of the other fans from that time period. there were a number of other people who may have been actually diagnosed as autistic or aspergers, but they were well adjusted compared to peter and had like, real jobs and relationships and were able to participate in conversations with other people. there were one or two honest to god pedophiles who creeped on various underage fangirls and i would classify peter as really benign compared to how gross those guys were - peter is creepy and an asshole, sure, but i don't think he's predatory.
i wish i had more to add, but honestly most of my direct interaction with him ended when the show ended in like, 2003 or 2004. i hadn't really thought about him until i saw that he was suddenly one of chris-chan's supporters. peter is kind of the proto-cwc in my mind. he's been told for nearly 20 years that he's putting way too much personal information out where anyone can see it and dude just does not want to listen. as he says, he does what he wants just like luann in the comics.
speaking of luann in the comics, there's some otherwise unremarkable irc log that shows up when i searched for "docforbin luann" that contains this weird little gem:
< DocForbin> It is not too late to save the Universe! If only Luann and Aaron Hill get together, the Promised One will be born who will slay the Beast of Revelation who's been behind all the recent, horrific events that have shaken the world to its very foundations!
i have no idea what that's about, dude's pretty passionate about his shitty comic strips but that's the first time i've ever seen him claim that luann can help prevent the apocalypse.
thought it might be worth mentioning that i'm 90% sure the girl he's creeping on on twitter is Mallory Maloney, who was apparently some /cgl/ dramacow: http://getoffegl.livejournal.com/577116.html
not directly related to peter guerin sperging about daria and luann but kind of interesting that his (apparently 28 year old) twitter obsession has a bit of a past as a... dare i say... cyberbully?
i was going through an old hard drive this weekend and found that i had saved a copy of peter's angry letter he wanted read at his high school reunion, complete with weirdly formatted comments due to the myspace blog layout, so here's some more people telling dude to let his anger go so he can go do something constructive with his life (spoiler: he doesn't)
Posted: Aug 4, 2007 9:10 AM
To the Students, Teachers and Administrators of the Class of 1987:
I have decided to write this letter after what had happened on July 19 and my recent receipt of the invitation to attend the 20th anniversary reunion on August 17.
I have decided—with the greatest regret—not to attend the reunion for two reasons: 1. I can’t afford it; and 2. It would only bring back painful memories I’d rather soon forget.
First, I can’t afford the $108 to attend the reunion, not to mention the hotel fare and transportation costs. I haven’t had a steady job that pays a regular salary or provides medical and other benefits to speak of since I graduated from CHS twenty years ago. I went to SUNY Stony Brook after I graduated but dropped out in the middle of the spring semester of my freshman year. I had worked for my biological father’s concrete business after that, then for the stock research firm my mother was working for at the time. After I was laid off the latter job, I spent a few months at a vocational training school for people with behavioral problems before my mother and stepfather bought the house in Upstate New York we currently live in now. I did go to Adirondack Community College and got an Associate’s Degree in Business Administration, spending the summers off working for the Great Escape/Splashwater Kingdom in Queensbury. In 1994, my mother and stepfather purchased the print shop we currently operate. I don’t collect a salary for my work there, and if it weren’t for my being on public assistance I’d have nothing.
As for the second reason, I have too many bad memories of the virtually daily teasings, beatings and other abuse I had to endure all because I was in Special Education for something that wasn’t my fault, something that was an accident of birth. If you are able to sleep well at night, I envy you because my sleep is still disturbed to this day by the nightmares I still have of what suffered through during those days. The dreams are so vivid I can hear the smack of the fist against my body, of people calling me a “retard”, a “dummy” and worse. At times these nightmares are mixed in with the things the bullies used to shout at me like “Garfield’s dead” and “Your house is on fire”. I don’t want to meet the same people who treated me like I was sub-human after all these years.
All of you—all of the Class of 1987—share some degree of responsibility for what happened to me the past twenty years. Those who did not raise a hand to intervene whenever someone was beating me up for teasing me are as equally guilty as those who raised their hand to hit my body with it. Because of the abuse I suffered, I never had time to learn any marketable skills or the social graces. To this day I’m a bitter recluse who’s become obsessive-compulsive and is afraid of other people. I have arguments with my stepfather all the time and I haven’t seen my biological father for years because he is a monster who added insult to injury by beating me up and whipping me with the belt for the most trivial offenses.
I had very few—if any—friends when I was at CHS. I was treated like an Untouchable because of my behavior problem. It was because of abuse like this I decided in my junior year to run for Student Government President, hoping that if I won I’d give people like me a voice. I lost to Pamela Murphy by sixteen votes, which was the closest Student Government election in the school’s history. In my senior year there was talk about revising the Student Government bylaws and I suggested about creating the office of Special Education Representative so people like me would have a voice in Student Government. The idea was rejected, however.
When I heard that the leader of the alleged bomb plot was a Special Education student himself, I got mad. Mad not only because something I thought would never happen at my alma mater did happen, but also because it convinced me that nothing really has changed in twenty years. I don’t know what were the exact circumstances that finally led the young man to plan the attack, but I now realize that it could have been easily me if I had been pushed too far. Maybe he too was teased and beaten up too many times. Maybe he was blamed for something that happened that the accusers actually did like what happened to me a few times because Special Education students are easy scapegoats. Maybe he—like me—fell victim one too many times of the bullies going up to him and saying “So-and-so girl loves you” only to go up to her and have her running away screaming “Get away from me, you monster!”
Well, let me tell you something, my former and present tormentors—as David Merrick, the famed Elephant Man once said, “I am not an animal! I am a human being!” People who have behavior problems like me are not animals; we’re not morons; we’re not evil people; we just do things differently than most other people. It may not be the right way, but it may not be the wrong way either. It might not be the way you do things yourselves, but if it doesn’t hurt anyone and doesn’t break the law, you have no right to judge or criticize me for it. If this is a shock to you, it’s because I’m one of those rare kinds of people who have this problem who are willing to speak up.
So, go ahead and live your comfortable lives with your spouse and kids and good paying jobs while you don’t care that people like me are trying to get by. I’m still single after all these years and never had a girlfriend and have no children. Where I live the women are either too young for me or already spoken for. One of these days I’m going to escape from this hellhole called the Adirondack North Country and return to Long Island, return to Connetquot, and when I stand up and speak up for those who can’t speak for themselves—the Special Education students you used to persecute and your own children are persecuting now—I hope people like you quake with fear because our time will come where we will demand to have the same rights and the same privileges as so-called “normal” people, and this time we won’t be denied.
Special Education students rights now—Special Education students rights forever.
Peter W. Guerin
Class of 1987, Connetquot High School
Hudson Falls, New York
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Posted: Aug 5, 2007 4:27 AM
I Read this and I have to say that after 20 years you still have all these feeling. 1st Kids will be kids. Yes! Maybe they teased you because you were different. But when people are your young they are just plain stupid. Im sure they regret it . You need to stop dwelling on the past . Im sorry that you are going through a rough time now. everyone does trust me but you get through it . Unfortunately this teasing and bullying still goes on to our children this very day. Its not easy being a kid . I really hope you can seek some help for the angry feeling's you have toward all those people. Life is to short. I hope things work out for you. Hang in there.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2007 5:50 AM
I can totally understand what you are saying. I too was bullied, not really in Connetquot but in grade school. So I can understand your feelings. However, after all these years it is best to let go of your gruge. It is better to forgive and you may feel some of that bitterness leave.
I also did not attend the 1983 reunion mainly because of financial reasons. I worked full time plus had to support a family but I also had too many bills. I also did not attend because I was sure that nobody would remember me. That was partly my fault. When my family moved from Long Island, I lost touch with my friends and classmates. I was always looking forward in my life. After I graduated and went on to college, I closed that chaper in my book and never really looked back.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2007 10:23 PM
Peter you also mentioned that because of your bad past you are afraid of other people. I feel that if you found a place where you can socialize with other people, you may get over that fear. A great suggestion is to join a church and get involved with a bible study group. I looked up Hudson Falls on the Internet to see what churches are available in you area. My first suggestion would have been the First Assembly of God, but as far as I can tell there is none in your town. I am not sure if you drive but another town nearby might have a First Assembly. If not you can check out these: (Note: It does not matter what religion you were raised as when you were growing up. Any of these churches below will help you greatly)
(a list of 4 churches near the town peter lives in was posted here)
Peter you may find, by getting into a fellowship with other Christians, a lot of this anger and bitterness may be taken from you. You may be able to forgive those who tormented you. I picture you becoming a youth leader where you can reach out to teenagers who are going through what you went through.
With all due respect, I must decline your invitation. I'm Lutheran myself but somehow God has failed me in what happened to me. Where was He when the bullies kept calling me a "retard" and a "dummy"? Where was He when they said "Your house is on fire!" and "Garfield's dead!"? Where was He when they raised their fists and hit me in the chest, the breadbasket, the testicles, the shins, the base of the spine, the ribs and everyplace else? Where was He when the principal decided it was all my fault and punished me instead of the bullies? Where was He when all that stupid advice the teachers kept giving me to just ignore the bullies failed because they just came back and did even worse things to me?
If right was right, the principals and the teachers should have stopped the bullies and punished them severely for what they did to me and I should have had a better life than I am right now.
Maybe in the end all those assholes will finally get what's coming to them and I'll be a ministering angel in Heaven while the whole lot of them are burning in Hell. I should have gone to the renuion if just to tell the whole lot of them off for the bullies and hypocritical assholes they all were and continue to be because they want to marginalize people like me. They even deliberately priced the reunion so high they know people like me--who have limited income and resources--wouldn't be able to afford to go.
This is why I got very angry when my other alma mater Adirondack Community College decided to suspend a student who has Asperger's Syndrome for a semester because he decided to write "must die" over and over for five pages after he told two people who were horsing around to stop it and they called him a "retard". It's just easier to punish the person with the behavior problem and let those whose bullying started the whole thing get off scot free.
And if right was right I would have been Student Government President instead of Pam Murphy because I now suspect that she had some of the bullies who kept picking on me on her campaign staff; they went up to me and threatened to beat me up (if not worse) if I didn't drop out of the race. I also suspect that she bribed a few people to vote for her instead of me because the "normal" people wanted to keep "retards" out of Student Government because they thought we were going to take away their privileges by insisting that we be given the same rights and be treated equally like everyone else. This is why I filed a complaint with the US Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights and asked the to investigate the election with the goal of reversing the results in my favor, but I was forced to call it off due to pressure by my parents.
I don't intend to let go of my anger because this has to be a lesson in tolerance for the next generation. They must learn to treat people like me with respect and kindness. If one insulting name, one taunting phrase or one fist is raised in anger against people like me by them, we've lost another generation to hatred and intolerance.
It's like what some people say, "God helps those who help themselves", and it's time people like me stood up and told the bullies that enough's enough.
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Posted: Oct 28, 2007 7:29 AM
I feel really sad for you. You have alot of anger and alot of issues you need to work on with a professional. Maybe if you let go of some of the anger and hatred, you'd become a better person, a happier person. Living in the past, you will never be able to have a future. I was picked on and harrassed growing up as well as most kids. The truth is 99% of kids are teased. If not by fellow classmates, by siblings, parents, coaching staff, ect. The point is... these are the things that make us stronger adults. These are the things that teach us compassion and understanding. Children don't HAVE compassion and understanding, they learn them. They learn compassion and understanding. Maybe the people who treated you poorly feel bad, maybe they don't, but continue to play the victim and you've let them win regardless. It's time to act like a man, not a hurt little boy, stop blamming the world for "woe is me", and get your life together. I could tell you stories about my life that would make your head spin. The difference is, I'M NOT A VICTIM! I'M A SURVIVOR! Please seek some professional help, and if you've already addressed these issues with a doctor, maybe you should turn to the arm of the Lord. I know, I know, you claim he's failed you in the past, but the lord never failed you, you've failed yourself by allowing other people to have that much of an impact on who you are today!
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Posted: Oct 29, 2007 5:23 AM
I totally agree with My Cowboys R 6-1. A great example with me, during grade school I remember this one girl telling me that I would never get married and would only get a job as either a Nun or a waitress. The teasings I got as a kid only made me want to strive harder. Here are some examples. I went to College at SUNY Brockport, While in collwge I joined the U.S. Army and became an officer in the New York Army National Guard. I work for a Fortune 500 business. I have been married for 14 years and have two daughters. I recently went back to college and got my Masters in Business. The girl who teased me. My brother went to Long island shortly after 911 and found out that she never went to college, is not married and works as a waitress. How is that for justice? I think God allows things to happen to people to make them into stronger individuals.
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Posted: Nov 7, 2007 4:46 PM
I also have to agree with all the others man. By you still hanging on to all that your still letting those kids that picked on you win. I got picked on every day and beat up lol like 2 times a day in my old school. I ran into some of those kids a few months ago man. People grow up and move on. In high school we are all trying to be cool and play our fake role, but when you graduate. People could give a dam if you where cool in high school. I think you need to let it go. If any thing go out there become something make something big of yourself, that’s how you win. I have the greatest wife 2 of the cutest boy’s and I am in the USAF. I own my own house and in the process of buying a new one, with a bad azz pension due to me in 13 more year, lol. So you know what man like I said, I ran into some of those kids from school 10 years ago. One of the kids still lives at home with mommy and daddy, lol. LMAO!! That’s sad, none of them own there own home or really have much to show for them self’s. Eww big deal they smoked crack and got laid in School but now look at them. Just saying dude, let it go. If any one knows, it’s me. I can’t believe I never did drugs with the entire BS. My life got so bad for me at my first high school I had to move to Connetqout, LOL. MY favorite quote “KARMA'S a MOPTHER FUCER”, LOL, and it finds every one in some way. DID I mention I am one sexy be otch now.
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Posted: Nov 10, 2007 7:17 PM
Lisa wrote:
Dear Peter,
I don't know what you went through in high school so I'm not going to say I know how you feel but I felt the need to comment on your post. High School was a lot of fun for me and I have wonderful memories of my friends and teachers, I can't imagine how you must have felt. I look back almost 20 years and I hope all my fellow graduates are doing well and happy. Which brings me to you. First let me start by saying I am sorry for what you had to deal with and what your dealing with now. I am a parent of a 4 year old, I couldn't imagine her dealing with these issues. With that being said I think part of your anger is misdirected..why didn't your parents do something about the constant teasing? Why didn't they go to the principal and discuss these issues? Your post angered me in that you felt the need to justify what this student wanted to do to his classmates. Are you going to sit there and justify Columbine? Don't get me wrong I agree with some of the things you said but blame the parents not the students. My daughter will grow up to be a kind and good person because I instill morals and values in her...if she should get teased at school on any level, I will make certain it will not be tolerated.
I wish you well Peter and I hope that you are able to put some closure on this for your own piece of mind. Someone once told me "never let people rent space in your head" its the best piece of advice I could give you.
Warm Regards,
Lisa
Obviously you can't understand what I went through because you were among the popular crowd at school. Unless you had it happen to you and unless you have the same kind of problem I have, you can never really understand it.
While I do not condone what Klebold and Harris did at Columbine and do not condone what the Special Education student at CHS was planning to do, I can totally understand where they were all coming from. How would you have liked it if someone went up to you and screamed "Drop out of the Student Government President election now, retard, or else we'll kill you!" or "Don't you dare show up at the senior prom because we don't want retards like you polluting it!" I'll tell you the truth--if it was me who had the contents of his backpack dumped into a garbage can like what the Special Education student did, I'd have grabbed him by the throat, throttled him and banged his goddam head against the wall until he lost consciousness, and at that point I wouldn't have given a damn if I got sent to the assitant principal's office.
One can only take so much bullying until he has to stand up and fight for the same rights and privileges the jocks, the fashion plates and all the others in the "popular" crowd enjoy. One can only be like a sheep for the slaughter for so long until he decides to fight back.
They say in a democracy, the sheep and the wolves vote on what they'll have for lunch and in a republic the sheep is armed. This is one sheep that has decided he's going to fight back and teach others like him to fight back as well.
Some of you out there might not be old enough to remember this, but there was a very good movie back in 1976 called "Network". In it, there was a very memorable scene where talk show host Howard Beale told his audience to go to their windows and shout "I'm as mad as Hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" This is what I want every Special Education student at CHS to do on April 20, 2008, the date of the planned attack. When the bullies begin to tease them, to insult them, to beat them up, they're to say to them "I'm as mad as Hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!" They are to tell them to stop what they're doing, to stop calling them "retards" and "dummies", to stop saying things like "Your house is on fire" and "Garfield's dead", to stop beating up on them. If they persist, then they're morally justified to fight back when the bullies begin to raise their fists. After that, never mind about telling them to the principal or their parents; they should call 911 and report them to the Suffolk County Police Department and have them arrested for violating their civil rights.
The one thing I bitterly found out at school is that the same old tired advice the teachers gave me to ignore the bullies and they'd eventually go away never worked because the bullies came back and they did even worse things against me. The only way these bullies will get it through their thick, steel-plated skulls to leave people like me alone and to respect our rights is if we fight back and show them we are willing to fight back for our rights.
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."--Thomas Jefferson
CTATE
M/99
CLEARWATER, Florida
Posted: Nov 28, 2007 10:26 PM
Dude I remember you from OBJ...
You used to go around with a Garfield lunch box. You didn't seem, to me, like you were that bullied. now maybe in HS things changed but from what I remember. You kind of put yourself out there for people to mock you. You walked around talking to yourself. You were abrasive and introverted. And in 9th grade to walk around with a Garfield lunch box talking to yourself, You were bound to get made fun of. In fact, I remember you used to get very upset when kids made fun of you. And this one time in the lunch room you went nuts on some kid for talking about Garfield being dead. I can't remember the kids name but you hit him a few good times with that lunch box of yours. Hehe, that was cool by the way. You seemed to me like you had that situation in control.
anyways. sorry for your troubles. HS can be a son-of-bitch!!!
Just think, how some kids have it today???
If you were that bullied that you still feel resentment towards these people 20+ years after the fact then I can only image what the next generation is going to be like at your age.
My suggestion is Just let it go. Living well is always the best revenge...
If you was to ask me before the reunion if you should go or not. I would have said “hell yes”. Rent a limo, a Tux and a Hot stripper for the evening go show off how good your life turned out, in spite of “them”. Order drinks for the ones who hurt you the most and show them that you are a bigger person.
But to me this post is just a window in too how your life was and seems to still be. Let it go Peter. Dwelling over things you can’t change will only effect you negatively not the people that hurt you… Let it go.
Anyways, get better soon and good luck to you.
L8R
Chris Tate
Kiria
F/32
San Jose, California
Posted: Dec 6, 2007 11:18 AM
I agree, sir - you have to do your best to let it go.
I'm sure, churchies aside, that half of the responses you will see here will be of the "I got my ass kicked all the time, too!" variety and the other half will be "I can't imagine how our lovely school was involved with such monstrosity!"
I'll let you guess which camp I hail from, if you care.
Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that your grammar and spelling are impeccable and that I am very impressed. You may have had the shitty end of the stick socially but you most certainly took away from our school district a valuable tool for life that so many lack.
I'd highly consider trying to do some graphic design for the web if you're able. If you're working in a print shop, you already have some foundation for that. Coupled with your communication skills, you could have a very real chance at pulling your ass out of that hole.
Except Peter Guerin isn't even any good at that. He's basically completely useless, unless execrably awful pedobait fanfictions where a retard fucks Daria is creativity worth encouraging.
"Never mind how CWC maced a store clerk after being told after vandalizing the store in the past, how will this affect me? Huh, did you guys ever think how this would affect me? CWC's had problems with trolls in the past, so they're the real bad guys here. Not CWC, who has poor impulse control and a history of anger issues, it's the trolls who had nothing to do with CWC's actions."
He's still in the Daria fandom, just not as...energetic about it as he used to be. Mostly uses it to whine about every bullying related news story, or post his troubles IRL.
My fiance has been in the fandom a lot longer than I and while we were talking about him a few weeks/few months ago he said the main reason he's not as active these days is partly because of the IRC ban, but mostly it's because he was apparently told by the (I presume) head admin of the forums that if he fucked up again he'll be permabanned no matter what the infraction is. So everybody's patience with him has really worn thin. These days it seems like he just talks at the people around him while almost everybody totally ignores him. My fiance said though even when more people responded in years past DocForbin seldom responded back anyways (except to yell at people) so he's satisfied to vomit words anywhere as long as at least one person might see it.
Has this really annoying habit in the forums. He makes threads for new episodes of shows he likes. No one replies to these threads and the mods delete them later. People have asked him to stop before but he keeps on doing it.
He made a big, butthurt announcement recently about finally stopping that. He claims it's because he can't keep up with it anymore.
DocForbin said:
After carefully considering things over the weekend, I have to reluctantly announce that effective immediately I am retiring from posting spoilers for my favorite shows here on [the forums].
The on-going debacle regarding Cartoon Network's rescheduling everything around kind of forced my hand on this. Although it looks like things have stabilized to a certain extent, it's come too late for me to even remotely consider doing spoilers for either Wabbit: A Looney Tunes Production or Be Cool, Scooby-Doo! and apparently from Toozone's own Cartoon Network/Boomerang forum, new episodes of Teen Titans Go! won't be back until the week of October 19, and then it's going to be a five-days-a-week "bomb" a/la/Steven Universe and to make matters worse October 22 will be back-to-back episodes.
I am NOT a spring chicken anymore and I do NOT have the stamina to do these "bombs" anymore like I did when I was considerably younger.
This decision applies to all the shows that I had been doing that are still on the air including Teen Titans Go!, Robot Chicken, Superjail! and The Venture Brothers and also applies to next year's revival of The Powerpuff Girls.
If peapotmaster is willing to pick up where I'm leaving off, he's free to do so if he wishes. But as for me, I'm officially DONE!
The thing is, I've been leaning toward retiring from posting spoilers for some time now. It was beginning to feel more like a chore than a fun thing to do for me. When I was still living in Hudson Falls and didn't have a hectic schedule, it was pretty fun doing this.
But nowadays since my stepfather's death, I have to help my mother run the print shop and I cook dinner most nights. On top of that I want to check things on Facebook and Twitter while I'm online as well. I was just running out of spare time to write and post spoilers.
It was kind of draining for me when they decided to do Scooby-Doo: Mystery, Incorporated's final season on a "bomb" schedule and one night my stepfather yelled at me for having the lights on in the living room while I was watching it and writing the spoilers up. I didn't want to go through that Hell again and even though I was half-way considering doing spoilers for The Tom and Jerry Show, finding out it was on a "bomb" schedule kind of put the kibosh on that idea. That's also the reason why I passed on Wabbit and Be Cool, Scooby-Doo! Finding out that Teen Titans Go! was going to be on a "bomb" schedule when it came back from reruns just proved to be the final straw for me.
I just checked the pony thread. He does post on occasion but doesn't seem to be a huge fan. Mostly he posts random factoids about voice actors that almost everybody ignores. Like the rest of the board he never contributes to the conversation at hand, nor does he make an attempt to do so.
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