Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Something funny to think about; according to the lore, Dynamaxing is only possible due to Eternatus' presence, so it's going to be interesting what kind of asspull they'll deploy if the next game is in Sinnoh.
 

Another exploit found. I'm legit surprised that the game is still 1.0! Austin says that it may not get patched out cos GF don't patch exploits.
 

Another exploit found. I'm legit surprised that the game is still 1.0! Austin says that it may not get patched out cos GF don't patch exploits.
They don't. About the only times they ever patch is if there's a consistently widespread game-breaking bug, like the Lumiose City saving glitch.
 
Or you're like me and several other players that use the calendar exploit to farm Watts and reset the vendors.
I admit that I used this exploit to farm watts and give out Giga Charizards. I have like 3 already but it's always nice and fun to give other folks a chance to get one if they hadn't already.
I bought 999 luxury balls with watts and sold them all for like 1.2mil lmfao

Another exploit found. I'm legit surprised that the game is still 1.0! Austin says that it may not get patched out cos GF don't patch exploits.
Noice. I'll try this out when I get home from work. Will give me a break from trying to hatch a shiny dreepy with masuda method which I've been at for about a solid 3 weeks straight now.
 
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Fairy Type is my favourite. Before that existed it was Ghost but now that there's a type specifically for magic legend creatures that shit is my jam. Also Aromatisse isn't as ugly as everyone says it is, it's just a thicc Plague Doctor.
They missed the opportunitty to have a shiny black to reference both plague doctor and maybe even Dr.Frank 'n Further.
 
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Another downside of SwSh being a dumpster fire is that Pokémon refugees are starting to flood the Digimon fandom. It also caused the smug "Pokémon is just fantasy dog fights" Digimon fans to crawl out of the woodwork. Which is hilarious because Digimon's original premise was "fantasy dog fights with virtual Kaiju monsters." It is like they know nothing about Digimon outside the anime.
 
Is it just me, or has GF been way too trigger-happy with nerfs these past couple generations? About the only major one they did in the past was the universal nerf to high power special moves after gen V, but now it's like they toss out a couple dozen nerfs to mons, moves and even entire playstyles. And of course, every single one of these nerfs has been for doubles specifically, because that's the only format they'll ever acknowledge despite most of the actual in-game journey barely having double battles these days.
 
Is it just me, or has GF been way too trigger-happy with nerfs these past couple generations? About the only major one they did in the past was the universal nerf to high power special moves after gen V, but now it's like they toss out a couple dozen nerfs to mons, moves and even entire playstyles. And of course, every single one of these nerfs has been for doubles specifically, because that's the only format they'll ever acknowledge despite most of the actual in-game journey barely having double battles these days.
I'm not sure what you mean. I mean, I know Aegislash was nerfed, but Aegislash was awful. And... there's not a lot of games between 'after gen V' and now.
 
I'm not sure what you mean. I mean, I know Aegislash was nerfed, but Aegislash was awful. And... there's not a lot of games between 'after gen V' and now.
I did say "these past couple generations" but anyway, a number of things have been nerfed in VII and VIII.

Gen VII:
Gale Wings only works at full health.
Dark Void can now only be used by Darkrai and had its accuracy nuked down to 50%.
Prankster-boosted moves don't work on Dark types.
Sucker Punch went down to 70 BP from its original 80.
Thunder Wave went from 100% accuracy to 90%.
Parental Bond's second hit does 25% instead of 50% of the first attack.
Paralysis halves Speed instead of quartering it.
Confusion has a 33% chance to hit yourself instead of 50%.
Swagger went from 90% accuracy to 85%.
Burn does less residual damage (Leftovers nullifies it).
Destiny Bond has a high chance to fail on repeated use.
Soul Dew used to increase the Sp. Att and Sp. Def of the Lati twins by 50%, now it only boosts the power of their STAB moves by 20%.
All abilities that transform Normal moves into STAB increase them by 20% instead of 30%.

Gen VIII (as far as I'm aware of, I'm sure I'm missing some things):
Aegislash has its defensive and offensive stats nerfed by 10 points each (the first time they've ever directly nerfed a mon's stats btw).
King's Shield lowers Attack by one stage instead of two.
The pinch health berries, which were just buffed last gen to restore health by 50%, now restore 33%.
Mimikyu now loses 10% health when Disguise is broken.
Ghost type Curse now randomly chooses a target in doubles.
Moody doesn't raise/lower evasion and accuracy anymore.
And of course, the massive collateral damage Dexit and Movexit caused as well as the elimination of Megas and Z-moves.

Not to say all the nerfs are inherently bad (confusion being nerfed into the ground is great for example, always hated that status), just pointing out how interesting it is that after all these years of basically just buffing things GF suddenly went on a nerfing warpath.
 
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Terrain also got nerfed. It now only increases the power of their respective types by 30% instead of 50%. Although oddly enough Misty Terrain still reduces the power of Dragon-Type moves by 50%.

Also this isn't a direct nerf so I don't know if this counts, but Intimidate got completely shat on this generation. They made it so that a bunch of abilities now grant a complete immunity to Intimidate (Inner Focus, Own Tempo, Oblivious, and Scrappy all make the Pokemon with said ability immune to Intimidate. Also while Rattled doesn't grant an immunity to Intimidate, getting your Attack dropped by Intimidate is now an additional trigger for the +1 Speed Increase given by Rattled).
 
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Terrain also got nerfed. It now only increases the power of their respective types by 30% instead of 50%. Although oddly enough Misty Terrain still reduces the power of Dragon-Type moves by 50%.

Also this isn't a direct nerf so I don't know if this counts, but Intimidate got completely shat on this generation. They made it so that a bunch of abilities now grant a complete immunity to Intimidate (Inner Focus, Own Tempo, Oblivious, and Scrappy all make the Pokemon with said ability immune to Intimidate. Also while Rattled doesn't grant an immunity to Intimidate, getting your Attack dropped by Intimidate is now an additional trigger for the +1 Speed Increase given by Rattled).
Probably because Misty Terrain is actually the only one that doesn't boost its associate type's STAB. Not like the Dragon move reduction being nerfed would've really mattered much since most mons who can summon/learn it are already immune to the type.

And I almost did mention Intimidate but it felt more like a blanket buff to a bunch of otherwise shitty abilities (other than Scrappy) than anything.
 
Ah, I see.

There's also Heavy-Duty Boots, and court change, which combined make for one big, rabbity middle finger to hazard meta.

With that said, a lot of these are relatively subtle (aside from the obvious Dexit/Movexits), or I seem to remember them being VERY prominent strats in the preceding generation. So it doesn't feel like shooting from the hip, at least.
 
Another downside of SwSh being a dumpster fire is that Pokémon refugees are starting to flood the Digimon fandom. It also caused the smug "Pokémon is just fantasy dog fights" Digimon fans to crawl out of the woodwork. Which is hilarious because Digimon's original premise was "fantasy dog fights with virtual Kaiju monsters." It is like they know nothing about Digimon outside the anime.

Think these are the same people who used to claim on the playground "Digimon's a Pokemon ripoff", but now they're crawling over to "give it a shot, I need my monster fix"?

As much as I would like for there to be more Digimon fans, I'm just tempted to say to these refugees "Fuck off, we're full".
 
A lot of those changes were things that needed to be nerfed for both singles and doubles. All the nerfs weather and entry hazards got since Gen 5 were fixes to singles problems. And Smogonbird and Aegislash were cancer everywhere.

I personally am pleased as punch that Pursuit is gone, now you can actually play Ghost and Psychic without them being immediately guaranteed revenge killed.
 
a number of things have been nerfed in VII and VIII.
A lot of those changes were things that needed to be nerfed for both singles and doubles. All the nerfs weather and entry hazards got since Gen 5 were fixes to singles problems. And Smogonbird and Aegislash were cancer everywhere.

I personally am pleased as punch that Pursuit is gone, now you can actually play Ghost and Psychic without them being immediately guaranteed revenge killed.

How about the Bizarre choice of how they took away moves from pokemon that could learn them?

Bisharp now apparently lost the ability to use Knock Off. WHY!?! (Well, I know why, it's because there isn't a move tutor for it)

There have been some interesting buffs that I think do need to be talked about - Like Rapid Spin
now boosts Speed by 1 stage and has 50 power.
Multi Attack now has 120 power (still wish that Silvany had more to it)

As well as the new moves that pokemon can learn - Shiftry learning Heat Wave, or Gothitelle learning Fake Out.

Like, is there a full list of that stuff too?
 
How about the Bizarre choice of how they took away moves from pokemon that could learn them?

Bisharp now apparently lost the ability to use Knock Off. WHY!‽ (Well, I know why, it's because there isn't a move tutor for it)

There have been some interesting buffs that I think do need to be talked about - Like Rapid Spin
now boosts Speed by 1 stage and has 50 power.
Multi Attack now has 120 power (still wish that Silvany had more to it)

As well as the new moves that pokemon can learn - Shiftry learning Heat Wave, or Gothitelle learning Fake Out.

Like, is there a full list of that stuff too?
This is why competitive is kind of a joke, Pokemon has two modes that are of focus (doubles and singles) and even with the cuts game freak can barely balance the one they focus on, that being doubles and even then not that well.
And considering the amount of lolcows that circle that part of the fanbase (both smogon and VGC), I can't take it seriously since any game's comp scene is so reliant on its community.
Think these are the same people who used to claim on the playground "Digimon's a Pokemon ripoff", but now they're crawling over to "give it a shot, I need my monster fix"?
When did digimon peak anyway? I don't remember ever seeing it back in the late 2000's, shit like bakugan, bayblade or yugioh had more of a presence back then. digimon seems back now but seemed like there was a period where it was more or less dead in the west
 
When did digimon peak anyway? I don't remember ever seeing it back in the late 2000's, shit like bakugan, bayblade or yugioh had more of a presence back then. digimon seems back now but seemed like there was a period where it was more or less dead in the west

At least for American viewers, I believe it peaked in May of 2001, because that was when the second season ended. Tamers aired not long afterwards in September, but because it didn't star the original cast (and also Tai didn't end up with Sora, hoo boy), a lot of kids lost interest, and Yu-Gi-Oh! would come out weeks later and took in that audience. Which is funny because Tamers is usually like number one or two in terms of the best Digimon season, but it being "different" was what killed interest for a lot of kids. Then Disney bought the IP (I want to say mid-season? It had a channel jump, least for me) and Frontier wasn't as widely-watched as Tamers, and that was the trend.

So while it's still pretty big in Japan (with a new movie on the way because the merchandise sells well), and the games sell fine, Digimon has never been as big and popular as Pokemon in the West. That's why a sudden influx of new "fans" as a result of Pokefags jumping ship over SwSh makes me leery.
 
How about the Bizarre choice of how they took away moves from pokemon that could learn them?

Bisharp now apparently lost the ability to use Knock Off. WHY!‽ (Well, I know why, it's because there isn't a move tutor for it)
That phenomenon is nothing new really. Every new generation temporarily "resets" movelists like that until tutors/transfers come about, and even to this day there's still combinations that are (legally) impossible, like Unaware Clefable with Soft-Boiled.

But thanks to Movexit things could potentially be far more dire than usual if they aren't added back in at some point. Like, if you're a mono-Electric type who relied on Hidden Power for any semblance of coverage (aka most mono-Electrics) you are fucked. Jolteon is arguably on par with Flareon now due to this. Can't even fall back to Signal Beam either since that was also deleted from the game wholesale.
 
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