Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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I vaguely remember Digimon being somewhat popular. I was in the fourth grade and I remember a girl on Valentine's Day 2002 had Digimon valentines.
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Weird, then, because I never knew anyone else at school who liked Digimon besides me, and I vaguely remember some weird-ass science fair(?) project about Pokemon vs. Digimon that I didn't get a good look at. It might be because I never lived in a large urban area given other online fans have told me they had friends at school who watched it with them, or the playground wars silenced a lot of fans, but I just never came across another fan in person. It came up in passing once in high school, but they all admitted they had stopped watching it after or before the second season ended and that's what they most remembered.

It was pretty lonely at times ngl. The Internet was a godsend in that regard, but it was rather eye-opening to see just how pissy fans have been over it (mainly over Tai and Sora not getting together, and that's not getting into the other ship wars), and it's still there some twenty years later. I stopped checking out Tumblr tags, With the Will forums and the like a year ago, so I can't imagine what those gatekeepers coming face-to-face with the spiteful Pokemon refugees are going to be like.
 
I also stopped reading the Digimon subreddit after finding out the admin of WtW is a mod there. The guy has a severe attitude problem and is just downright insulting to people. Someone on Reddit was speculating a certain part of the new Digimon movie trailer with thier own well typed out theories and he just responded with a rather rude response. He also got into a slapfight with someone on WtW over how Omegamon MM was formed in Tri and would shut down any criticism of the movie itself. He kind of reminds me of Serebii with all the Adventure shilling.

Honestly smaller fandoms are worse when it comes to BNFs. Most of the time its one person that takes over a good majority of the communities and they have no competition from other fans. At least with the Pokemon fandom the community is big enough for multiple BNFs to make their own groups and compete with each other over delivering content.

Digimon does have its fair share of SJWs, but mostly it is just them shitting themselves over the fanservice designs of Cyber Sleuth. Including people having actual nervous breakdowns over Eater Eve’s design (which I agree really doesn’t belong in a Digimon game and is in very poor taste but nothing to have a stroke over.)

Back to Pokemon I finally got to route ten and I am honestly glad the game is as short as it is. It feels like an absolute slog and I really hate that the main character is pushed away from the actual plot. If GF is going to make a plot focused game at least let us participate in it fully. It makes the cutscenes and the linear design even more pointless than it is.
 
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SnowBall said:
If GF is going to make a plot focused game at least let us participate in it fully. It makes the cutscenes and the linear design even more pointless than it is.
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or at least make the story actually good or something, IDK how but they made baby's first pokemon out of a series that was already joked about being baby's first jrpg, bravo game freak.
 
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SnowBall said:
Back to Pokemon I finally got to route ten and I am honestly glad the game is as short as it is. It feels like an absolute slog and I really hate that the main character is pushed away from the actual plot. If GF is going to make a plot focused game at least let us participate in it fully. It makes the cutscenes and the linear design even more pointless than it is.
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I'm just about to enter the final gym on my second file, and short is right. I looked at my play time and it's 20 hours, but that's only because of the Wild Area. I spent countless hours there just because of TRs and getting some mons earlier than usual thanks to raid dens (I got a Falinks for my team a couple gyms ahead of when you can get one normally for example). That and my autistic obsession with trying to get decent party members with stats, abilities and natures.

If you don't bother with the Wild Area and just use the first mons you catch wherever, you could easily beat this game in about 10 hours or less. Even moreso if you spam the EXP candies to have your mons OHKO everything in their path.

On a positive note though, I got a shiny Dugtrio with its hidden ability in a 4 star den (HAs are even rarer to get with that many stars so it was extra lucky), and found out that shiny mons in raids are locked to stay that way as it wiped me on the first attempt.
 
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Got shield as a gift today, I've had to restart it twice now because I just completely zoned out, granted I was busy with the holiday so I wouldn't have been able to focus anyways. I went with sobble but I want to use Drednaw so I deleted that save. But then I remember that I like lizards so I guess I'll get sobble again and just use both???

It is super difficult to sit and read this dialogue regardless tho.
 
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Gigantamax is easily the shittiest implementation of a battle mechanic in the IP's history. You can't use all but a couple of them during the story due to how most are only accessible through 5 star raid dens, only mons from Gigantamax dens specifically can achieve those forms (so your beloved Corviknight you've had by your side since Route 1 will never be able to), on a competitive level they are inferior to Dynamax in just about every way, and even the game itself discourages you from using them as they aren't allowed in online ranked mode yet Dynamax still is.
 
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I forgot mention this before, but you know that option they added where you can skip cutscenes? I had that on during the entire second playthrough and guess what, it barely fucking worked. It skipped maybe 5 cutscenes tops, none of them including the 200 times the game stops you dead in your tracks to handhold you to hell.

In fact, after it skips Rose's big Eggman's Announcement bit, nothing is skipped afterwards. The whole Eternatus "arc", all the post-game monotony with Dildo Hair and Mantle Head, all of that's still intact. They couldn't even get an option added to address a complaint from the last game to work the way it's supposed to. Why am I not surprised...
 
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I was relieved that my Raboot was still able to level up to 26 even though my current badge only allowed me to catch up to level 25 - wasted EXP would have been the one thing that would have ruined the whole game for me.
 
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I was relieved that my Raboot was still able to level up to 26 even though my current badge only allowed me to catch up to level 25 - wasted EXP would have been the one thing that would have ruined the whole game for me.
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Yeah, when I noticed that the badges still have the "Pokemon up to level X will obey this trainer", that wave of relief washed over me. While I still think that's about traded Pokemon and that even if my Pokemon were to go up a little bit higher than the badge dictates, they won't suddenly disobey, my biggest concern was the thought this "level-capping" was a thing. I still think it's really weird that it's wild Pokemon you have a cap on for when you're allowed to catch it, but I actually haven't been all that bothered by it.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
I forgot mention this before, but you know that option they added where you can skip cutscenes? I had that on during the entire second playthrough and guess what, it barely fucking worked. It skipped maybe 5 cutscenes tops, none of them including the 200 times the game stops you dead in your tracks to handhold you to hell.
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I don't get why game freak seems to think when everyone complains about the game stopping them in their tracks every 10 seconds they think its the pre renders and not the copious amount of dialog they force players to read.
 
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I've been playing Sword for about 2 weeks. I've enjoyed it, and have probably had more fun playing online than I have with any Pokemon game since Y. It's definitely not perfect, though, and was far too easy (I OHKO'd basically everything). The story was also meh, but that's less important for Pokemon than other franchises. I really like a lot of the new Pokemon; the only old one I used in my in-game team was Toxicroak.
 
I just finished Sword. The game was ok. Definitely the weakest generation but not the total trash fire I was expecting.

Also I am thoroughly convinced /vp/ never played an rpg outside of Pokemon. I saw someone brag about the older games having complex and deep gameplay/exploration and just shook my head. Pre gen V may have been less linear but the exploration and worlds back in the day still had the depth of a mud puddle. Pokémon is the Harry Potter of video games. 90’s kid Millenials who cling on to nostalgia yet refuse to move on to better games.

The fandom in general has gotten even worse with the gatekeeping than ever. Fans who started with RSE and beyond are looked down upon as being mindless consumers instead of starting with what they consider the “passion project” first two gens. Which is hilarious because most of these old school fans only got into the games because of the Pokemania fad of the 90’s. It is amusing seeing gen 2 and Johto in general being grandfathered in with the first gen in terms of the old school genwunner mentality.
 
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SnowBall said:
Pre gen V may have been less linear but the exploration and worlds back in the day still had the depth of a mud puddle.
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The problem is instead of improving in this regard it just keeps getting worse, as a series goes on it should look to others in it's genre and improve from them not exist in its own little bubble to be judged in isolation like most fanboys wish the games could be. In fact the fact that pokemon as a game now has even more of a gap between it and most other games in the genre then it did before is comical in how its worsened since the DS games.
Fans who started with RSE and beyond are looked down upon as being mindless consumers instead of starting with what they consider the “passion project” first two gens.
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I thought genwunners died after LGPE
 
No you're right, I am just laughing at fans who are too far up their asses to see that the series has always lagged behind compared to other jrpgs. Besides if Pokemon had any real jrpg competition on the GB/GBC back during the first two gens it would still look like a joke.

LGPE made genwunners worse since it just brought the “muh childhood is ruined” crawling out of the woodworks even more.
 
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SnowBall said:
Besides if Pokemon had any real jrpg competition on the GB/GBC back during the first two gens it would still look like a joke.
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I would extend that to the GBA since, keep in mind that most of the GBA's life cycle it was a port/remake machine, hell other then pokemon what other jrpgs did nintendo make themselves for the system (M&L and Mother 3?)
The DS games overall still lagged behind other things like DQ9 and Radiant Historia but I would still say it was the least distance pokemon ever had from other games in the genre where new jrpgs weren't a rarity (which considering how many of the DS' jrpgs were ports it's kinda abit like the gba situation but it wasn't a slouch when it came to new shit as well).
LGPE made genwunners worse since it just brought the “muh childhood is ruined” crawling out of the woodworks even more.
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I have seen the exact opposite, most people shat on charazard wank in the new game, KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO being a meme I think kinda shows people are sick and tired of gen 1 getting preferential treatment, I don't doubt that genwunners still exist, but it seems like to me that ever since x and y they have been decreasing in number rapidly.
 
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