Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Executive Petrel]

the howling in their battle theme is gay

 

[Gas18697]

ZAcian is only op in that weird MOba game now, Zacian will be strong in VGC still but not as terrible like in the Sword and shield series (imp. sword only goes off onces per match, and - 10 attack). VGC will change alot when they make cover legend legale again

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

it took you this long?


Fun fact, this is the case for most things
Gholdengo is actually fucking broken in loads of situations due to its good typing and even better ability + movepool (iirc). Has been terrorizing the meta for a while and inflicting its atrocious appearance and accursed existence upon all who dare to use Smogon or the three people that play VGC.
It carries on the longstanding tradition of only the ugliest-possible Pokémon being the most competitively viable that has been staunchly upheld since the dawn of online tournaments in gen 4. God bless the wretched and vile being known as Gholdengo for his service.
And only his service.


man, I still have like a thousand online URLs for TCG Online just sitting in tins gathering dust. Maybe I should redeem them all now so I can get a quick TCG fix lol.
No comment on the rest of the message, it's par for the course with this franchise by now. Depressing that even their shitty-ass terrible mobile games can't be brought up to the most basic of standards anymore.

I like all the pokemon everyone seems to hate...

 

[Anonitolia]

I like all the pokemon everyone seems to hate...

I mean, if it helps, I specifically seem to have somewhat unpopular tastes, so you might actually have more fans to appreciate your favorites with than you think
besides, there's nothing wrong with liking designs others don't, it just means more people will judge you for it and rightly so! how dare people have fun enjoying fictional neon animals that breathe fire for their designs; people such as myself must correct their misdeeds and educate them on how these designs will actually lead to the downfall of character design as we know it and therefore liking them is tantamount to anti-semitism!

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

I mean, if it helps, I specifically seem to have somewhat unpopular tastes, so you might actually have more fans to appreciate your favorites with than you think
besides, there's nothing wrong with liking designs others don't, it just means more people will judge you for it and rightly so! how dare people have fun enjoying fictional neon animals that breathe fire for their designs; people such as myself must correct their misdeeds and educate them on how these designs will actually lead to the downfall of character design as we know it and therefore liking them is tantamount to anti-semitism!

I mean, I like critters like Vanilluxe, Scovillain, Minior, etc. so I'm used to hearing lots of whining.

 

[Anonitolia]

I mean, I like critters like Vanilluxe, Scovillain, Minior, etc. so I'm used to hearing lots of whining.

and I Probopass, Trubbish, Aromatisse and Elgyem so I feel your pain lol
(sorry you have to deal with that
Minior good though
very very good)

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

To sum it up:

In USUM, there's a post game story about an alternate version of Giovanni Invading Alola along with the help of every team leader from Gens 3-6 (all of them coming from a world where they accomplished their goals and won) to form Team Rainbow Rocket. You beat them, because of course you do, and Giovanni and his team scaddels to come back another day.

That sounds kinda cool, maybe I'll actually play it now.

Agreed, the climate surrounding the TCG (formats and which companies' hands are in the TCG cookie jar being the two big hurdles) is just too different for a proper game, the best you can do right now are games like YGO's Master Duel and MTG's MTG Arena.

Oh, there's one more thing I forgot to mention: the Pokémon Trading Card Game Online and Pokémon Trading Card Game Live are all TPCi-fronted ventures. TPC, Creatures Inc., Game Freak, and Nintendo have no involvement in either app and there's no Japanese equivalent. Live is also inaccessible if you're not in an area where's Pokémon's presence isn't officially managed by TPCi.

If something like that came to Switch/PC then at least that'd be good enough, instead of just being Pokemon apps.

It's too bad we can't get a cool TCG RPG again, even Yugioh doesn't make them anymore. Maybe it's just not a popular enough idea, they even skipped localizing Pokemon TCG 2 back in the day, could be that the first one didn't sell well enough here or something.

 

[Archeops]

That sounds kinda cool, maybe I'll actually play it now.


If something like that came to Switch/PC then at least that'd be good enough, instead of just being Pokemon apps.

It's too bad we can't get a cool TCG RPG again, even Yugioh doesn't make them anymore. Maybe it's just not a popular enough idea, they even skipped localizing Pokemon TCG 2 back in the day, could be that the first one didn't sell well enough here or something.

Both Online and Live are available on PC/Mac/Linux but putting the latter game on the Switch is a pipe dream due to TPCi’s involvement.

As far as getting a new TCG RPG for either IPs again it’s difficult to do since the game would be dated as soon as the oldest set of cards get rotated out of whatever tournament-legal is used, Pokémon‘s Standard format rotates yearly (there’s the Expanded format that’s Black & White-on but that hasn’t had an official tournament in years) while Yu-Gi-Oh! has its Advanced format that often sees shifts in its Forbidden, Limited, and Semi-Limited lists.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

I'm looking for Scarlet Paradox shinies, so please DM me if you would like to trade for Violet Paradox shinies.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Hello, how is the game's performances as of today? have they patched most of the glitches etc? I've been considering buying this or waiting until the DLC comes out. Should I wait?

 

[zyclonPD]

Hello, how is the game's performances as of today? have they patched most of the glitches etc? I've been considering buying this or waiting until the DLC comes out. Should I wait?

Games performance for SV is still subpar. They haven't actually fixed it. So far they have opened the dlc for purchase but haven't added it to the game so no point in buying it yet. Based on the initial patch for Pokémon home support it added bugs that could corrupt your save data so I would avoid purchasing the dlc early until its actually implemented and nobody has reported issues.

Lot of the day one graphical bugs are gone. Your ride Pokémon can still get stuck in a never ending nose dive to the ground but Gamefreaks fix for that is after so many seconds of you "falling" without moving downward it just blacks the screen for a second and resets you in a regular ride position. Game still struggles with frame rate in areas like the bamboo forest because the amount of Pokémon that spawn there. Frames will drop to teens and the game chugs along.

Terastalization raid dens run smoother than release. They kinda fixed that. Online connectivity for trades and online raids is still iffy. Nintendo hasn't fixed netcode so its not getting better.

 

[Anonitolia]

Hello, how is the game's performances as of today? have they patched most of the glitches etc? I've been considering buying this or waiting until the DLC comes out. Should I wait?

No, don't wait. Just don't buy it at all. The games are a total scam with barren features and a mountain of unfixed glitches that are being ignored for the sake of working on $35 DLC instead. There is no HOME support despite the feature being advertised to be coming to the game in early 2023 (we are now a month away from being halfway through and we don't even have a release date yet), a plethora of series staples are missing (0 significant postgame, almost no character customization, Dexit remains, lack of Set mode or an option to turn off battle animations, etc), the game still runs terribly and looks even worse.

I originally had a way more lengthy description of what exactly is wrong with the games, but Zyclon says a lot of it up above (even if his claims about Tera raids being better are only true insofar as that they're not as broken as they were on launch. they're still plenty broken and borderline unplayable quite frequently in my experience) so I felt there was no need for it.

In short: these games are an outright fucking scam and you should seriously save your money. They're not going to get better because the devs are busy developing DLC that's more expensive than half the base game for the holiday season, and the vast majority of bug fixes were implemented exclusively to stop a cloning exploit and fix a minor graphical glitch relating to the Sleep status condition. The actual game itself is only kinda fun and destroyed by its numerous graphical shortcomings, poor game design, terrible balancing and broken features. It's half-finished at best and not worth buying, ever. Emulate if you have to.

 

[zyclonPD]

Its kind of a shame. I do enjoy the open world aspect, the tm crafting is nice so you aren't limited by tm scarcity, breeding has been stream lined to a great degree. Having mirror herbs to quickly slap on egg moves has been great and the ditto raid events gave my a full set of 5 IV dittos in every nature. Terra type changing is a neat feature. The auto battling in the over world is great for farming items. Being able to make sandwiches to crank up encounter rates and shiny rates is good. The availability of bottle caps, nature mints and ability capsules makes building a Pokémon as easy as its ever been. I've been able to build a few boxes of decent Mons better than any gen before it. If you know where to look people ate also constantly doing giveaways for generated Pokémon so you can start off with a 6iv base to build your own off of if you want to shortcut.

Its just tiring watching Creatures Inc. Consistently fuck things up. Good ideas, terrible implementation. I have to imagine a fraction of their staff are actually working on the game still while the rest are getting the toys, card game, merchandise etc. spun up for this gen. Gamefreak should have a staff higher than it does. They currently knock this out with roughly 143 employees compared to Activision's 13,000. This strategy of reducing costs by not hiring anybody is atrocious at this point. The top ranked IP in the world won't hire employees. I imagine its just pure greed at this point, a knowledge of having no viable competition, and a fan base that will buy it no matter how bad. I wish TemTem had actually taken off well. It would have been great to see somebody actually pressure them to improve.

 

[Anonitolia]

Its just tiring watching Creatures Inc. Consistently fuck things up.

Worth noting that Creatures is only responsible for the 3D modelling of mon in the games and TCG. They're probably the least involved in this entire affair out of the big three (them, TPC, and Gamefreak) so it's pretty odd to pin the blame on them.
I'm not going to comment on the rest of the post because I heavily disagree with a lot of it but i don't have the energy to fight right now lol
That Creatures bit is the only one that's properly "wrong", anyways

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

No, don't wait. Just don't buy it at all. The games are a total scam with barren features and a mountain of unfixed glitches that are being ignored for the sake of working on $35 DLC instead. There is no HOME support despite the feature being advertised to be coming to the game in early 2023 (we are now a month away from being halfway through and we don't even have a release date yet), a plethora of series staples are missing (0 significant postgame, almost no character customization, Dexit remains, lack of Set mode or an option to turn off battle animations, etc), the game still runs terribly and looks even worse.

I originally had a way more lengthy description of what exactly is wrong with the games, but Zyclon says a lot of it up above (even if his claims about Tera raids being better are only true insofar as that they're not as broken as they were on launch. they're still plenty broken and borderline unplayable quite frequently in my experience) so I felt there was no need for it.

In short: these games are an outright fucking scam and you should seriously save your money. They're not going to get better because the devs are busy developing DLC that's more expensive than half the base game for the holiday season, and the vast majority of bug fixes were implemented exclusively to stop a cloning exploit and fix a minor graphical glitch relating to the Sleep status condition. The actual game itself is only kinda fun and destroyed by its numerous graphical shortcomings, poor game design, terrible balancing and broken features. It's half-finished at best and not worth buying, ever. Emulate if you have to.

thank you, will consoom game soon
I'll wait until all DLCs are out and then ask again, I don't expect this game to run perfectly at this point, but at least expect it to be playable

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Spoiler: I beat Pokemon Infinite Fusions

Notes on Final Team:
-You can never have too many Dark-types in this game. Lucky me!
-Vaporeon/Umbreon=OP Wall that carried me through the Elite Four. Bonus points for having one of the best custom sprites in the entire game while also not being useless af.
-Same goes for Absol/Arcanine, but instead of being a wall, it's a truck that runs everything over if it can get at least one Swords Dance off.
-Something weird happened with the game's randomization feature which led to me having a surplus of Vulpixes. This is why two of my final team members are Ninetales fusions. That, and they look cool, especially the Houndoom one. The stats on them are really good, too. The Jolteon one would've actually swept the entire Champion's team if it hadn't gotten oneshotted by a rain-boosted Hydro Pump.
-While it looks cool, has great stats, and moves, my Tyranitar/Charizard fusion didn't help much during the late-game due to it being a bit slow, and having a crippling Water-type weakness that unfortunately a lot of trainers exploit, especially during the Elite Four. Putting Sand Stream on it was also a bad idea too because it just did more harm than good because of constantly having to switch out.
-While it looks utterly amazing, has fantastic coverage, and stats, my Roserade/Typholsion fusion didn't due much during the Elite Four either due to just being very frail. It was also kind of a bitch to get, so keep that in mind if you want to get one yourself if you decide to play this game.

Overall Opinion on the Game: Game's fine. Not as great as people are hyping it up to be, but it's fine. It gets a little boring once the initial intrigue of the fusion mechanic wears off, but if you want a unique pokemon fan game that's decently challenging, this is for you.

 

[Inafune Fanfiction]

Its kind of a shame. I do enjoy the open world aspect, the tm crafting is nice so you aren't limited by tm scarcity, breeding has been stream lined to a great degree. Having mirror herbs to quickly slap on egg moves has been great and the ditto raid events gave my a full set of 5 IV dittos in every nature. Terra type changing is a neat feature. The auto battling in the over world is great for farming items. Being able to make sandwiches to crank up encounter rates and shiny rates is good. The availability of bottle caps, nature mints and ability capsules makes building a Pokémon as easy as its ever been. I've been able to build a few boxes of decent Mons better than any gen before it. If you know where to look people ate also constantly doing giveaways for generated Pokémon so you can start off with a 6iv base to build your own off of if you want to shortcut.

Its just tiring watching Creatures Inc. Consistently fuck things up. Good ideas, terrible implementation. I have to imagine a fraction of their staff are actually working on the game still while the rest are getting the toys, card game, merchandise etc. spun up for this gen. Gamefreak should have a staff higher than it does. They currently knock this out with roughly 143 employees compared to Activision's 13,000. This strategy of reducing costs by not hiring anybody is atrocious at this point. The top ranked IP in the world won't hire employees. I imagine its just pure greed at this point, a knowledge of having no viable competition, and a fan base that will buy it no matter how bad. I wish TemTem had actually taken off well. It would have been great to see somebody actually pressure them to improve.

The series has been devolving ever since it peaked again at Sun/Moon.

TemTem should have gone free to play and it probably would have taken off. The openly hostile discordniggers killing the community aspect for everyone didn't help either. Shilling a Discord on your store pages is a mark of death for a reason.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

for fuck's sake

 

[Anonitolia]

for fuck's sake
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SMARR INDIE COMPANY
PREASE UNDERSTANDU

 

[Friendly Primarina]

for fuck's sake
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So is it crashing because it's trying to load data that doesn't exist? Am I understanding that right? Because even the original gameboy games had error-handling code for this situation:


It warms my heart to see all the people running interference for GF on S/V launch day get repeatedly screwed over by their bad decisions.