Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

My favorite of the generation 5 starters is retroactively Samurott and that is largely thanks to its PLA regional form bringing all of its concepts together for me.
The original one always felt a little awkward to me and it felt odd that it never had a secondary typing, but now that it's part dark and has ceaseless edge it's become an absolute menace.
Hisui Samurott is definitely a huge improvement. While I love oshawott and dewott, I never picked them due to me disliking Samurotts design. The Hisui form improved him a lot tho.

I still remember it like yesterday when someone leaked the final starter designs on /vp/ and we just didn't wanted to believe Samurott was real. I'm still a bit bummed he looks like a floaty.
 
The post starts out relatively normal and then just... turns into a barely coherent rant. It has some nice worldbuilding ideas though.
I find it so odd how mati the dude gets over people playing around with their made up self insert ocs and enjoying the wish fulfillment these games bring. Pokémon being realistic to the point of the OP's world building rules sucks out pretty much all the fun.
 
I still remember it like yesterday when someone leaked the final starter designs on /vp/ and we just didn't wanted to believe Samurott was real. I'm still a bit bummed he looks like a floaty.
I had a bigger problem with Oshawott, to be honest. The final form looks fine, but baby form just looks retarded, especially when you have Smugleaf or a cute piglet to choose from. My brother, when he saw it at the time called it a "gay clown", I have no clue why but it cracked me up.
 
I find it so odd how mati the dude gets over people playing around with their made up self insert ocs and enjoying the wish fulfillment these games bring. Pokémon being realistic to the point of the OP's world building rules sucks out pretty much all the fun.
All you wish fulfilling autists screeching about needing a mew on your team when I just want to hand feed some Pidgeys at the park.

Random thought, why has there never been a Humming Bird pokemon?
 
Pikipek (a woodpecker, but it's small, so who knows?) Or cutiefly (more of a bug, but still)
Cutiefly is what came to mind, but its much more bee than anything else.

Problem is I'm not sure how you'd do a (good) Hummingbird pokemon. I looked up some fanart and it's all way more shit than I would have expected. I wonder if it just doesn't translate like other animals. Too small to work with, no good features to exaggerate or add to?
 
I'm still a bit bummed he looks like a floaty.
You've perfectly put into words why Samurott looks so weird. That and it's as if it were designed with only one pose in mind, it doesn't look like it can move its legs.

Random thought, why has there never been a Humming Bird pokemon?
It's weird how we never got a peacock Pokemon, there was one planned for gen 3 but it was scrapped.

No, the gay duck doesn't count.
 
Speaking of Cutiefly(or rather Rimbombee), this is one of the few Pokemon I had trouble using. Has anyone had good competitive experience with it? For me, it's just too weak and doesn't do much of anything, especially with Gen 7's massive power creep. I hate it when a Pokemon is useless in competitive, especially one just introduced, but for the life of me I can't think of a way to make it useful. Sadly, same goes for one of my all time favorites Granbull, who just can't cut it in that environment either, had to get another good Fairy type when I still played online.
 
You've perfectly put into words why Samurott looks so weird. That and it's as if it were designed with only one pose in mind, it doesn't look like it can move its legs.


It's weird how we never got a peacock Pokemon, there was one planned for gen 3 but it was scrapped.

No, the gay duck doesn't count.
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I'm sorry dude. I agree it's shit, but the tail is a peacock's.

Speaking of Cutiefly(or rather Rimbombee), this is one of the few Pokemon I had trouble using. Has anyone had good competitive experience with it? For me, it's just too weak and doesn't do much of anything, especially with Gen 7's massive power creep. I hate it when a Pokemon is useless in competitive, especially one just introduced, but for the life of me I can't think of a way to make it useful. Sadly, same goes for one of my all time favorites Granbull, who just can't cut it in that environment either, had to get another good Fairy type when I still played online.
Doesn't it have a fairy type move that you can use to heal allies or attack enemies? Or was that a romhack hallucination? Pointless in singles but surely there's a use case in VGC.
 
Doesn't it have a fairy type move that you can use to heal allies or attack enemies? Or was that a romhack hallucination? Pointless in singles but surely there's a use case in VGC.
I tried using it in doubles, but it just can't kill anything that is weak to either of it's STAB moves. It can't take much punishment either, and if I want to heal allies, I got Heal Bell on my Granbull, unless it's a move that heals HP and even that is a bad niche since it essentially sacrifices a valuable partner slot so that one or two other Pokemon can fight longer. A good Heal Bell mon can stand on it's own when it is not using support.
 
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You've perfectly put into words why Samurott looks so weird. That and it's as if it were designed with only one pose in mind, it doesn't look like it can move its legs.


(Don't worry Samurott, I still love you even with your goofy legs that don't work.)
 
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(Don't worry Samurott, I still love you even if your goofy legs that don't work.)

I picked Oshawott and I liked Dewott but was kind of disappointed with Samurott. And yes it was the legs. They are just so weird. I liken it to a table ornament. They look like they are made as something inanimate that doesn't move.
 
Speaking of Cutiefly(or rather Rimbombee), this is one of the few Pokemon I had trouble using. Has anyone had good competitive experience with it? For me, it's just too weak and doesn't do much of anything, especially with Gen 7's massive power creep. I hate it when a Pokemon is useless in competitive, especially one just introduced, but for the life of me I can't think of a way to make it useful. Sadly, same goes for one of my all time favorites Granbull, who just can't cut it in that environment either, had to get another good Fairy type when I still played online.
I played exclusively on Showdown with PU/RU formats, so my experiences with it are pretty biased with other crappy mons lol.

Rimbombee wasn't actually that bad in the higher tiers from what I can recall, they were considered to be the fastest Sticky Web user in Gen 7, so that was a niche user you could have even in Ubers. They also had access to Quiver Dance and Fairy Type, which was allowed to setup against most dragon users. You could even be a madman and run Ribombee with Oricorio for DOUBLE QUIVER DANCE ACTION in Doubles, as long as your opponent wasn't running a Rock Slide lead (impossible).

But yeah, in the weaker formats, Rimbom was pretty good, but that's mainly because it could take at least one hit before being disintegrated most of the time.
 
I played exclusively on Showdown with PU/RU formats, so my experiences with it are pretty biased with other crappy mons lol.

Rimbombee wasn't actually that bad in the higher tiers from what I can recall, they were considered to be the fastest Sticky Web user in Gen 7, so that was a niche user you could have even in Ubers. They also had access to Quiver Dance and Fairy Type, which was allowed to setup against most dragon users. You could even be a madman and run Ribombee with Oricorio for DOUBLE QUIVER DANCE ACTION in Doubles, as long as your opponent wasn't running a Rock Slide lead (impossible).

But yeah, in the weaker formats, Rimbom was pretty good, but that's mainly because it could take at least one hit before being disintegrated most of the time.
That makes sense, I never bothered to try out Sticky Web in a competitive environment to a serious degree. I did use Oricorio + Quiver Dance, but that was with Volcarona, an infinitely better Pokemon for sweeping. I guess that's the problem, I tried using this one as an attacker since I liked the STAB combo, but it turns out it's pretty useless in that regard. Shame, not a lot of non-legendary offensive strong Fairy types in Gen 7.
 
That makes sense, I never bothered to try out Sticky Web in a competitive environment to a serious degree. I did use Oricorio + Quiver Dance, but that was with Volcarona, an infinitely better Pokemon for sweeping. I guess that's the problem, I tried using this one as an attacker since I liked the STAB combo, but it turns out it's pretty useless in that regard. Shame, not a lot of non-legendary offensive strong Fairy types in Gen 7.
Yeah, a good rule of thumb I use for Pokemon is that if their base attack/sp. attack is lower than 110, then they're probably not a good sweeper (with a few exceptions like having a good movepool or typing), but not being a good attacker doesn't make them useless.

My favorite thing to do in Showdown is to bring lower format pokemon in OU and surprise my opponent with them. People trying to sucker punch a Tsareena (Queenly Majesty) or getting their Gholdengo obliterated by a Scrappy Flamigo will never not be funny to me.
 
In part because a good bit of them are obsessed with Sonic donut-steal OC-tier self-inserts.
And many of the female ones on tumblr are yumeshippers on top of that. (meaning they ship themselves/their self inserts with the existing pokémon characters).

I remember seeing one who shipped her male self insert oc (because of course she was a pooner) with N from Black and White, saying they were "monogamous" and they didn't want to interact with people who shipped N with anyone else. She set up her blog like it was a couple's shared account and filled it with drawings that were meant to replicate pictures taken together.
 
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