Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Lapis Lazuli]

So youre saying that sinnoh folk love fucking pokemon?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

So youre saying that sinnoh folk love fucking pokemon?

This is the generation region that introduced Lopunny and Lucario, after all.

 

[Love Machine]

This is the generation region that introduced Lopunny and Lucario, after all.

and Gallade.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

and Gallade.

Does it count if it's an evolution introduced a generation after it's pre-evolutions?

 

[Love Machine]

Does it count if it's an evolution introduced a generation after it's pre-evolutions?

Why wouldnt it?

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

...One theory, here.

Maybe they were planning to make DP more open world, but decided to go for a safer option halfway through (in response to SwSh backlash?) and turned to ILCA? Then the open world project was allowed to be more free and experimental, resulting in Legends.

That'd help explain why this is the first spinoff game explicitly set in an existing region. It was meant to be a mainline, and they built sinnoh itself, but they pivoted midway through.

I'm of a similar mind. Interestingly the trailer doesn't bring up a Wild Area or Gigantamax which are the core mechanics of gen 8, and were both critically panned by casual and competitive players alike. Very strange, for GF. Meanwhile, we have a spinoff game set in the same region, announced at the same time, and wholly themed around gameplay featuring open world mechanics. Frankly, I'm optimistic, thought I hope the remakes aren't TOO faithful to diamond and pearl, as they have quite a few problems on their own.

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ThiccWithAQ needs to be stopped

 

[Polyboros2]

Does it count if it's an evolution introduced a generation after it's pre-evolutions?

Lickilicky definetly counts towards that generations degeneracy.

 

[graywolf88]

Lickilicky definetly counts towards that generations degeneracy.

More like THICCIlicky amirite?

 

[starborn427614]

Magnezone justifies the entirety of Gen IV.

 

[Love Machine]

 

[StraightShooter2]

Does anybody on the forums play Pokemon in the present day? Or if you don't and you did play why and when did you stop?
My favorite pokemon is kabutops

Look at this badass motherfucker.

Also sort of related to Chris is this I found

Whoever did this
PLEASE STOP

I played some of the earliest games when I was young. I don't play them anymore. (Though I did play a Pokemon-inspired game Nexomon: Extinction fairly recently).

My opinion is that the games were overrated and too much of a childish marketing fad - basically the "catch/trade/battle 100s of Pokemon" was the main gimmick and one-trick pony. Other than that there were just pretty generic and mediocre JRPGs - with little to no plot or character development, and simple "rock/paper/scissors" battles.

In the 2020s, there are many infinitely better RPG games in almost every era beyond the "collect 100s of Pokemon" gimmick - and even in that area, I think that games like Nexomon and Gundam G Generation Cross Rays are better, along with having better plot, characters, combat, etc.

 

[verygayFrogs]

On the topic of Lets Go, I want to voice some thoughts on Pokemon Go. I recently got back into it a couple weeks ago and I use a spoofer client, because I live in a suburban area with very few Pokestops and I don't want to walk a trillion miles to catch a zigzagoon. A day or two ago Niantic announced that they're going to start cracking down hard on cheaters in an upcoming patch and inplying they have a means to detect altered clients, but theres still so much in that game thats fucking broken they could be focusing on instead. Raids are P2W because you only get one raid pass per day, the PVP mode is pretty wildly unbalanced, and no Pokemon spawn outside of cities (outside of using incenses and lures, which are more paid items.)

Besides maybe the PvP mode and certain raids (which lets be honest, you can still win in those if you catch a decent 80IV+ mon and know what moves you need to spam), Pokemon Go is pretty much still a single player game, and I don't get the whiny faggots who complain about spoofers not living in San Francisco or who don't want to (or physically cannot) walk as much as the game demands they do., or the company taking these people's opinions and going on a crusade against people who aren't ruining the game for anybody else while the actual game is in a shitty state.

Is it just that I go to school in a field with a lot of walking or that I drive with it active bc I don’t have those kinds of issues?
Also have a shiny rattata today that I didn’t hunt for

 

[The Jokester]

Ah shit, here we go again. I swear if this Legends or the remakes suck. I guess I'm done. I'm still salty my beloved Britian got the a crappy region with retarded starters based on it. I didn't even bother trying to get a copy. My mate got it and threw that shit out a week afterwards

I guess I can look forward to throwing end less ultraballs at the Pokemon devil yet again.

 

[Disc]

They'll probably be some recycled assets in Legends, but with the remakes I feel like the only thing getting recycled will be the pokemon models. It's really too early to tell at the moment especially since BDSP is being worked on by a different company.

They're almost certainly going to use the models that were in home - ILCA's the company who made Home, After all.

I would agree with this but it'd be pretty radical to make a game that previously wasn't open-world one that is, they could have easily just followed the originals exactly but with 3D assets instead (GameFreak aren't exactly known for their innovation).

That's what the remake is gonna be, Legends is likely just them recycling Sword&Shield's assets and development tools for another quick but major game to release, they seem to be trying to release either a main-line series game every year or a near main-line game like the Let's Go games.

I think one of the deciding factors for me is that it’s two sinnoh games, at the same time, and a spin-off game set in a mainline region - which, as far as I'm aware, has never been done before.

first, they set up the wild area in normal SS - people think it’s okay to bad, but just kinda there with little impact on the story. The expansion pass develops that idea further using the same core engine, making wild areas that effectively are independent stories, and many people say they’re the best parts of SwSh content. To then step it up into a full open world is a perfectly logical progression.

Sinnoh is not a region known for being untamed. It has some key landmarks, but compared to say, Hoenn, I wouldn’t pick it as the first place to have an uncivilised prequel in. So why Sinnoh, then? Maybe because of Arceus, but it also makes sense if they were making a more open-world system for DP and then pivoted from it.

As for why they'd look at Sinnoh to BotW-ify in the first place, it might be because of the HMs. Sinnoh had the most hms of any region, and some of them, like rock climb and defog, were never used before or since. Rock climb in particular would be a big one to replace in an open-world game.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

My opinion is that the games were overrated and too much of a childish marketing fad - basically the "catch/trade/battle 100s of Pokemon" was the main gimmick and one-trick pony. Other than that there were just pretty generic and mediocre JRPGs - with little to no plot or character development, and simple "rock/paper/scissors" battles.

The whole appeal of monster catching games is catching and using the monsters you encounter. What you call a one-trick-pony gimmick is just a monster catching game being a monster catching game.

The Combat system is way more intricate than you make it out to be what with there being 18 different types (with some having immunites to other types) and that's not to mention the abilities, EVs and IVs, dual types, etc.

Is your opinion based on the earliest entries or have you tried the later titles?

In the 2020s, there are many infinitely better RPG games in almost every era beyond the "collect 100s of Pokemon" gimmick - and even in that area, I think that games like Nexomon and Gundam G Generation Cross Rays are better, along with having better plot, characters, combat, etc.

That's really a matter of taste. Personally, I've played some JRPGs that I found to be pretty fun, but I still find myself playing some pokemon games fan-made or official.

 

[chimpSculpture]

Sinnoh is not a region known for being untamed. It has some key landmarks, but compared to say, Hoenn, I wouldn’t pick it as the first place to have an uncivilised prequel in. So why Sinnoh, then? Maybe because of Arceus, but it also makes sense if they were making a more open-world system for DP and then pivoted from it.

Sinnoh has always had a theme of folk lore history so a game set in the far past would be best suited to Sinnoh.

Something else that's interesting is that Pokémon existing in the far past with Humans has been shown before, one of the films (Pokémon: Arceus and the Jewel of Life I think ?) even had Pokémon in the past being captured with ancient Pokéballs, kinda like in Legends. This game has a lot in common with that film actually except it's specifically feudal themed.

 

[starborn427614]

Sinnoh has always had a theme of folk lore history so a game set in the far past would be best suited to Sinnoh.

Something else that's interesting is that Pokémon existing in the far past with Humans has been shown before, one of the films (Pokémon: Arceus and the Jewel of Life I think ?) even had Pokémon in the past being captured with ancient Pokéballs, kinda like in Legends. This game has a lot in common with that film actually except it's specifically feudal themed.

That was Pokemon 4Ever I think. They're the one on the left in this pic.

 

[Woke Capitalism]

I kept looking, because I was expecting one of those to be goatse. I am...disappointed?

 

[The Iconoclast]

That was Pokemon 4Ever I think. They're the one on the left in this pic.

Yeah 4Ever showed off older Pokeballs, but Jewel of Life showed off an old, probably Greek or Roman style era. I don't think they used Pokeballs though, those harnesses they kept on the Pokemon were what kept them in line.

Though of course that doesn't preclude the existence of Pokeballs in that era

Pokemon is very inconsistent with its lore though (for instance, what came first? Mew or Arceus?), and the game/anime universes are typically considered very separate, so the games certainly have different histories

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Magnezone justifies the entirety of Gen IV.

Reeeee M.O.G.U.E.R.A. is not a monster but a mecha reeeee

Still pretty cool, though.

EDIT:

That was Pokemon 4Ever I think. They're the one on the left in this pic.

Apparently those are what old-school Apricorn Poké Balls are supposed to look like, since in at least Johto, that's how they made them. Kurt is one of the few who knows how to make Poké Balls out of Apricorns, anymore, unless Johto is known for exporting those kinds of Poké Balls.