Police to announce arrest in Delphi murders Monday, suspect identified - 10/31 10am Eastern (Links)

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DELPHI, Ind. (WLS) -- Indiana State Police are expected to release more details Monday morning about an arrest in the 2017 murder of two girls in Delphi

Police are expected to name the suspect during a news conference in Delphi at 9 a.m. Central Time.

Residents told ABC7 they've interacted with the suspect multiple times and said the individual reportedly worked at a local pharmacy.

Sources tell ABC's Indianapolis affiliate a person has been arrested in connection with the murders.

"The state police never really discussed details on what was found at the scene, but the belief all along is that there was at least some sort of genetic material," Brad Garrett, ABC News contributor and former FBI agent. "Clearly they have something that links him to the crime."

The case has been shrouded in mystery since February 2017 when 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German seemingly disappeared after going for a hike. Their bodies were found the next day.

"How did this come to light almost five years after this crime was committed?" Garret said. "Something broke in recent days, at least to the point that it gave them enough probable cause and evidence to arrest this new person."

The girls' killer was able to avoid capture, even with thousands of tips coming in to police and despite one of the teens, Libby, taking this grainy video the day of their disappearance showing a man walking towards the girls.

Authorities have said he may be the killer. Libby also captured a chilling recording, thought to be the man's voice.


Libby's family reacted to the update expected later Monday. Her sister Kelsi tweeted, "just know how grateful I am for all of you."

Just know how grateful I am for all of you. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll county prosecutors office. There is tentatively a press conference Monday at 10am. We will say more then. Today is the day%uD83D%uDC9C
%u2014 Kelsi German (@libertyg_sister) October 28, 2022
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FatalTater said:
A lot of the guys involved in Odinism are also white supremacist gang members. One of the murdered girls' mom dated a non-white guy. Perhaps the locals wanted to send her a message, and that's why they chose who they did for their sacrifice.
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Why not kill the (to use their terminology) "mudshark" mother then? Why kill an innocent child? Seems pretty retarded.

The girl's blood painted on the tree was definitely the elder futhark rune for 'Anzus' which represents Odin, communication, blessings and omens. Its alphabetical equivalent is the letter "a." I also think the girls were deliberately positioned to resemble the magician and hangman as depicted in the tarot.

The killings were definitely ritualistic and more than one party was involved, imo.
 
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Wuornos said:
Why not kill the (to use their terminology) "mudshark" mother then? Why kill an innocent child? Seems pretty retarded.

The girl's blood painted on the tree was definitely the elder futhark rune for 'Anzus' which represents Odin, communication, blessings and omens. Its alphabetical equivalent is the letter "a." I also think the girls were deliberately positioned to resemble the magician and hangman as depicted in the tarot.

The killings were definitely ritualistic and more than one party was involved, imo.
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If you want to hurt someone you don't harm them you harm the people closest to them its how to be a psychopath 101
 
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Caesar said:
Nothing on the supposed "ritual posing" that kicks started all the Odinist crap?
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Judge Gull ruled that the defense isn't allowed to bring up Odinism, so I'm not sure how the posing is going to be discussed without someone getting yelled at.

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DELPHI Trial Opening Statements, State's First Witnesses (Week One Summary)

 
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Third Day
Defense files a motion to block the enhanced audio from Libby's phone (not the whole recording, just how parts of it gets played on a loop. "Guys...Down the hill." Let 'em hear the whole thing as-is)

Witnesses called -
Darron Giancola, detective that came on duty once he heard that the girls were missing.
ISP Sgt Jason Page, crime scene investigator
Duane Datzman, crime scene technician
Brian Olhey, ISP investigator

The crime scene photos have now been shown to the jury. It was an emotional time when those came out.



I know I'm kind of half-assing the reporting on this, other things are pulling my attention. I'll try to keep up but if anyone else posts about it or adds to what I bring, I will not be the least bit upset.

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Murder Sheet podcasters really called out the bullshit way the judge is handling the media in this case.
Listen to the first 10 minutes or so of the Day 3 episode.
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My personal opinion on why this is being done? Judge Gull wants to make it hard for anyone to report on bad behavior of hers due to sleep deprivation and inconsistent attendance.
 
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Wuornos said:
Why not kill the (to use their terminology) "mudshark" mother then? Why kill an innocent child? Seems pretty retarded.

The girl's blood painted on the tree was definitely the elder futhark rune for 'Anzus' which represents Odin, communication, blessings and omens. Its alphabetical equivalent is the letter "a." I also think the girls were deliberately positioned to resemble the magician and hangman as depicted in the tarot.

The killings were definitely ritualistic and more than one party was involved, imo.
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But why? To what end? Why aren't there more of these kinds of ritualistic Odinist murders going on? I really disagree with those that think Odinism is involved; if it IS, I can only see it insofar as a bunch of methhead rednecks got all caught up in what they thought Odinism was and it got out of hand - kinda like that South Park episode where the men all get together and do meth and get drunk and play like witches but then one guy like takes it way too far and actually summons a witch and they're like "uh, whoops."

Anyway, idk if Richard Allen is THE dude for this, but ritualistic cult murders are so rare, and usually are more Manson Family, Heaven's Gate, or Jim Jones kinda stuff.

Those who really think this is Odinism, where are all the other ritual Odinist murders?
 
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Day Four
Witnesses called-
Brian Olehy, ISP Investigator (continued from yesterday)
Lt Brian Bunner, ISP forensic examiner
Jeremy Chapman, audio-visual expert
Railly Voorhies, witness who was at the bridge that day
Breann Welbur, witness who was at the bridge that day
Betsy Blair, witness who was at the bridge that day
Steve Mullin, investigator

Physical evidence was introduced, the girl's clothing and DNA swabs
Jury was shown the recording from Libby's phone.

 
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Day 5
Defense has filed a motion to allow discussion of Odinist involvement

Witnesses called-
Sarah Carbaugh, local resident
Dr. Roland Kohr, forensic pathologist
ISP Sgt. Christopher Cecil, computer forensics examiner


 
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The Judean People's Front said:
But why? To what end? Why aren't there more of these kinds of ritualistic Odinist murders going on? I really disagree with those that think Odinism is involved; if it IS, I can only see it insofar as a bunch of methhead rednecks got all caught up in what they thought Odinism was and it got out of hand - kinda like that South Park episode where the men all get together and do meth and get drunk and play like witches but then one guy like takes it way too far and actually summons a witch and they're like "uh, whoops."

Anyway, idk if Richard Allen is THE dude for this, but ritualistic cult murders are so rare, and usually are more Manson Family, Heaven's Gate, or Jim Jones kinda stuff.

Those who really think this is Odinism, where are all the other ritual Odinist murders?
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The Odinism shit seems like a hail mary argument that probably would have worked in 1989.

Just my opinion, I'm retarded.
 
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Interesting stream from JLR Investigates. Magnolia's been busy looking into things. Over 2 hours but worth a listen.
 
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The Odinism shit seems like a hail mary argument that probably would have worked in 1989.

Just my opinion, I'm retarded.
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Exactly. It has all the Hallmarks of a moral panic - Satanists killing and raping babies in the 80s kinda vibes.

Now, that noted, I'm not gonna deny that the way they found the girls is strange if those drawings I've seen are accurate, and yeah maybe some rednecks thought they were Odin's super special friends, but it's not like a link to anything bigger than "druggy rednecks are stupid." I think it's wholly possible the murderer was trying some ritualistic shit, but again that doesn't mean there's some huge underground conspiracy of Odinists murdering children and covering it up.

The biggest issue with drawing any conclusions from what we have is that a lot of it lacks context. Like, for example, that drawing I mentioned of the girl's bodies. With a stark white background it's easy to see the runic shapes, what have you, but I feel like a larger context is needed. We're there other branches laying near them? Did the creator of that drawing and description leave out stuff that didn't fit or maybe even not notice it?
 
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The Judean People's Front said:
Exactly. It has all the Hallmarks of a moral panic - Satanists killing and raping babies in the 80s kinda vibes.
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What bothers me is that I saw the son of Sam documentary and it's clear the journo who eventually unintentionally spawned the satanic panic had interesting material and there were holes in the theory that he was only one murderer retard shooting people in NY.

It's a basket full of rotten apples and it might be tempting to throw them out without looking into it.

But here in my shithole, there's been a fuckton of missing kids, actual cultists who cut their dicks off to try and become angels, retarded niggers doing voodoo magic with children's body parts, etc.

And then you have redditors here saying "lol it doesn't exist!" And they use the US's satanic panic as evidence it's all made up.
 
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AllieKat said:
Satanic murder is real and anyone who calls it a "panic" is just repeating their programming like a good NPC.
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If you're saying that the Satanic Panic, one of the most famously unfounded and massively detrimental moral panics in history was completely true, then I need you to start a thread on this because I'm always down for some schizoposting.

If you really live life thinking Satanists are around every corner waiting to snatch up children and virgins for their blood orgies, then I'm sad for you. That sounds like a terrifying life to live.
 
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Satanic murder is real and anyone who calls it a "panic" is just repeating their programming like a good NPC.
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If satanic ritual sacrifice was as common as people like Mike Warnke, Lawrence Pazder and others claimed back then, where did all the bodies go? They literally claimed satanic cults were in every neighborhood and hundreds of thousands of people were being sacrificed, that's a lot of bodies to hide.

There were some small cults and groups of psychos who murdered some people and were fans of the dark Lord, that's absolutely true. But the utter paranoia about widespread satanic cult sacrifices in the 80s and 90s absolutely was a panic, and an overreaction to an imaginary massive crisis that didn't really exist.
 
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Day Six

Defense wants to call former Carroll County prosecutor Robert Ives.

Witnesses called-
Steve Mullin, investigator
Dan Dulin, conservation officer with the DNC
Kathy Shank, volunteer file clerk/secretary
Tony Liggett, Carroll County Sheriff
David Vito, investigator, ISP Trooper
Lt Jerry Holeman. ISP

 
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Okay the more I listen to JLR Investigates! on yt learning about all the fuckery surrounding this case the more I worry for their safety.
I've been trying to explain this shit to people for years. It's so frustrating.
If JLR or Magnolia catch a stray bullet or their house burns to the ground, it'll be a safe bet as to why it happened.

Day Seven
Witness called-
Melissa Olberg, former ISP firearms examiner



Words cannot express how very little interest I have in bullets, casings, cartridges, the innards of guns, etc.
I tried to be interested in order to understand the case better and my brain rejected the information so hard my sinuses started draining. (That could have been seasonal allergies but I choose to blame the firearms operations data instead.)
 
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Witness called-
Lt Jerry Holeman ISP



Funny to me how the part of the interview with Richard Allen where he would have been read his Miranda rights is missing, kinda like all the interviews with the local redneck mafia (aka odinists) went missing.
Probably just a silly little conspiracy theory that only a crazy person would notice. Pay no attention.
 
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Day Nine
Witnesses called
Stacy Bozinovski, ISP forensic scientist and DNA analyst
Maj Pat Cicero, crime scene investigator with a specialty in blood stains

There was male DNA at the crime scene, but not Richard Allen's. (maybe a lab tech, oops)
Not enough male DNA to tell anything.
No DNA evidence of sexual assault.
Blood on the tree was Libby's.
Hair in Abby's hand was from Libby's sister Kelsi German.

Per CSI - Libby is believed to have been moved after death, Abby is believed to have died in the same place where she was injured.



I still wonder how one guy did all this.

If anyone isn't wondering wtf is going on in rural Indiana yet, here's a blog entry that'll start ya off -

Defense Diaries Podcast on yt is interesting tonight

sorry for all the edits, today's been weird for me
 
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