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Zero Gun: Fenrir said:
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Ok, highlighted it for your viewing pleasure, his term thingy is in a week, and his case review is in a couple months. So, there is that.
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There's nothing listed to go down in a week. That was the third hearing in the case, the type is 'term,' and the result was 'set for trial.' That hearing happened June 17, 2013.
That, coupled with the lack of details on final disposition has me confused. Why did they set a trial if this case is resolved?
 
I suspect that Snyder hid a taser under his register today and now sits and waits for the inevitable.
 
-disclaimer- I've graduated from law school, but haven't taken the bar exam yet, and am not from Virginia.

There typically isn't a hearing at the end of probation to my knowledge, its just like the end of a jail sentence it ends automatically. I think they're looking at terminating his probation and sending him to Prison or something. If what Marvin says is true and he hasn't done his community service then he didn't successfully complete his probation and can be sentenced for the original crime if his PO reported him. I think the "term" is a motion to terminate his probation and the "review" set for 9/5 is a hearing to see if he goes to the clink or what.

Bracing for "The Prison Saga" or at least "Probation Saga II: Electric Boogaloo".
 
waffle said:
-disclaimer- I've graduated from law school, but haven't taken the bar exam yet, and am not from Virginia.

There typically isn't a hearing at the end of probation to my knowledge, its just like the end of a jail sentence it ends automatically. I think they're looking at terminating his probation and sending him to Prison or something. If what Marvin says is true and he hasn't done his community service then he didn't successfully complete his probation and can be sentenced for the original crime if his PO reported him. I think the "term" is a motion to terminate his probation and the "review" set for 9/5 is a hearing to see if he goes to the clink or what.

Bracing for "The Prison Saga" or at least "Probation Saga II: Electric Boogaloo".
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Lionel Hutz said:
-disclaimer- I've graduated from law school, but haven't taken the bar exam yet, and am not from Virginia.

There typically isn't a hearing at the end of probation to my knowledge, its just like the end of a jail sentence it ends automatically. I think they're looking at terminating his probation and sending him to Prison or something. If what Marvin says is true and he hasn't done his community service then he didn't successfully complete his probation and can be sentenced for the original crime if his PO reported him. I think the "term" is a motion to terminate his probation and the "review" set for 9/5 is a hearing to see if he goes to the clink or what.

Bracing for "The Prison Saga" or at least "Probation Saga II: Electric Boogaloo".
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No! Our sweet baby boy can't go to prison. He has so much more ointment to apply to Barb.

It doesn't make sense though. Chris hasn't said a peep. We need Marvin or Alec to swoop in and clear this up.

Edit: I thought Marvin said Chris managed to avoid getting community service. Not that he refused to do it. Of course most info comes from Chris himself so...
 
waffle said:
-disclaimer- I've graduated from law school, but haven't taken the bar exam yet, and am not from Virginia.

There typically isn't a hearing at the end of probation to my knowledge, its just like the end of a jail sentence it ends automatically. I think they're looking at terminating his probation and sending him to Prison or something. If what Marvin says is true and he hasn't done his community service then he didn't successfully complete his probation and can be sentenced for the original crime if his PO reported him. I think the "term" is a motion to terminate his probation and the "review" set for 9/5 is a hearing to see if he goes to the clink or what.

Bracing for "The Prison Saga" or at least "Probation Saga II: Electric Boogaloo".
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Are we prepared for this? Do we have a man on the inside ready to report, in the style of Matlock or Walker, Texas Ranger? OPL will have to go into a protective custody unit or else he will be chewed up in Gen Pop. I wonder how easy that will be to pull off. Perhaps this forum should send in a 'friend of the court' brief advising the judge just who he's got in front of him.
It's a shame everyone made it so easy on OPL only for him to blow it and wind up with a felony and doing time (if that's what is going to happen). If I was from Virginia, I'd wouldn't have much of a problem interpreting the court record that's available. But I'm not, and can only guess. I do know that in my state, they like you to have your community service and non-monthly fines paid at some point before probation ends. Like at the six month mark, on a one year probation. So if VA is anything like my state, the service wasn't done, the fines may not be paid, so they're taking a look at it. Also in my state, if it comes down to them wanting to revoke probation, they get all charged up about it after the six month mark, but it also serves to give you a chance to get the service done and the money paid before the year is up. They don't want you making a mockery of the rulings, but they also know they can't stick everyone in jail/prison because they are overcrowded to begin with. But of course, if he didn't do it by yesterday, they don't necessarily have to accept it, even if OPL could get his act together, find a qualified agency to accept his labor and actually get the hours in (which could be a stretch on all counts given his likelihood of (:_( when given ultimatums).
 
In the Imgur leak, Chris says that he was not required to do community service. No doubt he got this information from Bell. Chris isn't going to prison.
 
Link to the specific image? I didn't sift through all of the millions of images and 170 page thread. The impression i had was that Marvin just said that because OPL said he didn't have to do it. I wouldn't be surprised if Chris just figured he "got out of it" because he's dodged it for this long and he doesn't fully understand the process of probation. the trial was in late 2011 right? I bet he hasn't talked to Rob Bell since 2012 or so, it's not like he has a continuing obligation to make sure Chris doesn't fuck up going forward
 
I doubt he would do any real jail-time even if he somehow blew his probation.

I just can't see the justice system tossing an Austic man child who is his very elderly mothers only care provider into the slammer.

A pity plea-bargain would be the most likely outcome. Which kinda irks me....if anyone but Chris did this they would see real repercussions not just a slap on the wrist.
 
waffle said:
Link to the specific image? I didn't sift through all of the millions of images and 170 page thread.
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"assigned at all at first and yet." God knows what this means.
 

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Sweet and Savoury said:
I doubt he would do any real jail-time even if he somehow blew his probation.

I just can't see the justice system tossing an Austic man child who is his very elderly mothers only care provider into the slammer.

A pity plea-bargain would be the most likely outcome. Which kinda irks me....if anyone but Chris did this they would see real repercussions not just a slap on the wrist.
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So, you're wanting to play the autism card for him? Don't forget the court should have those psych evals to also base their actions on (if he complied).
What more of a plea bargain can he be given? He was given a chance to pay (he has income) and do his service (he has time). I don't think the judge will haul him in and ask what he objected to about his terms. He accepted the terms and didn't abide by them. If that's the case, off he goes. If you think the justice system doesn't want to play kick the autistic, then they may have to toss him into the looney bin. Even the crazy have to complete their sentences, and if they're too crazy to do it, that's why we have mental hospitals.
Screw Barb. Anyone can say they're a caretaker. They should require doctor's notes about her condition. And if they get that far, they may just find out OPL isn't doing such a good job of caretakin', what, with bedsores and all.
 
So is it possible he fucked up some other way? If he did then how is it possible he hasn't been informed? Maybe we're reading into this wrong?

Edit: Who the fuck "rests" during their own court case?
 
asperhes said:
waffle said:
Link to the specific image? I didn't sift through all of the millions of images and 170 page thread.
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"assigned at all at first and yet." God knows what this means.
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Or any part of that paragraph, lol. It sounds like HE doesn't' even know what he was supposed to do, so he probably missed a requirement on accident or just tried to skip out on something that he didn't' want to do and is getting called out. It's true he probably won't get sent to jail, shit they may even just call it good enough if whatever he did wasn't a big deal. He may serve like 30 days or something though if he's an ass to the judge or just affirmatively blew something off and pissed off his PO or the judge.
 
If he fucked up he and Barb would know and there's no way he wouldn't be screaming about it online. Gut feeling for me is that it's a routine review before they call it a day.
 
qld said:
Sweet and Savoury said:
I doubt he would do any real jail-time even if he somehow blew his probation.

I just can't see the justice system tossing an Austic man child who is his very elderly mothers only care provider into the slammer.

A pity plea-bargain would be the most likely outcome. Which kinda irks me....if anyone but Chris did this they would see real repercussions not just a slap on the wrist.
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So, you're wanting to play the autism card for him? Don't forget the court should have those psych evals to also base their actions on (if he complied).
What more of a plea bargain can he be given? He was given a chance to pay (he has income) and do his service (he has time). I don't think the judge will haul him in and ask what he objected to about his terms. He accepted the terms and didn't abide by them. If that's the case, off he goes. If you think the justice system doesn't want to play kick the autistic, then they may have to toss him into the looney bin. Even the crazy have to complete their sentences, and if they're too crazy to do it, that's why we have mental hospitals.
Screw Barb. Anyone can say they're a caretaker. They should require doctor's notes about her condition. And if they get that far, they may just find out OPL isn't doing such a good job of caretakin', what, with bedsores and all.
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No, what I am saying is that IF Chris blew his probation and ended up in front of a judge again Bell would trot out the ole Autism, old Mother routine and I would bet he gets off very lightly.

He already got off lightly but that was thanks to Snyder dropping the assault charges I think. Normally those come with a pretty health sentence.
 
BatmanVSTonyDanza said:
So is it possible he fucked up some other way? If he did then how is it possible he hasn't been informed? Maybe we're reading into this wrong?

Edit: Who the fuck "rests" during their own court case?
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I don't know man, either they're having a hearing to revoke his probation or they have a routine end of probation hearing, which is something I've never heard of.

He may have not been served yet, in a lot places/circumstances they only have to give you 30 or 45 days notice for stuff; that would be what July 12th or August 5th depending? Alternatively, he may have gotten served by posting/mail because he doesn't answer his door/his house looks fucking abandoned and he just doesn't know what the paper means.

-EDIT- I thought about some more, and the one possible reason that he could have a hearing at the end of probation is to see if the charge will be expunged from he record/sealed/whatever they want to call it there. But I thought the alleged deal was that he was getting a misdemeanor conviction that was staying around no matter what?

I need to read the trial report form the cwcki again
 
I wonder if some post-trial stuff came to light, like

-- Chris calling for the Game Place to be burned down

-- Chris demanding that the companion to one of his supposed trolls be murdered

-- Chris admitting that he paid for a hooker

-- God only knows what else that Chris just hasn't revealed to anyone online yet.

And just how long is Bell supposed to handle this charity case that Rocky saddled him with?

AFAIK, it may just be that one final court date to show that Chris hasn't done anything stupid enough during his probation period to warrant going back to jail over, and the case will finally be dismissed.
 
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