PS3, Vita, And PSP Stores To Be Permanently Closed In A Few Months - fuck game preservation lol - Sony

[Jasper2K]

Sony has became mighty complacent this past generation. If microsoft can combine stores and implement BC going as far back as the first xbox why can't sony and nintendo? Oh I know

 

[The Last Stand]

So that means the Call of Duty DLC STILL FULL PRICED on PS3 will be inaccessible? Welp.

 

[Marissa Moira]

So that means the Call of Duty DLC STILL FULL PRICED on PS3 will be inaccessible? Welp.

Just buy the remasters that have even more DLC.

Or maybe something will emerge that the new patent about PS1-PS3 trophy emulation is going to be used. PS3 was a nightmare from a hardware standpoint, so I can't exactly blame them for wanting to be rid of it from a backwards compatibility standpoint when they made the PS4. Vita already had most of it shit ported over, but PS3 has a problem that vita doesn't where they have disc versions that never got a digital copy.

There's a ton of generally broken games and ports on vita like Night Trap that were never fixed.

Sony has became mighty complacent this past generation. If microsoft can combine stores and implement BC going as far back as the first xbox why can't sony and nintendo? Oh I know

The Microsoft backwards compatibility requires you to be online because it doesn't read the game from the disc at all. The disc you insert is just a handshake to start a digital download. I would have gotten a new xbox if it was full physical offline BC, but it's not, it's heavily online reliant.

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

to be fair, all sony needs to do is to keep the service to ping back running, which takes much less resources and maintenance as a full blown store. of course sony wants you to buy their shiny new hardware with shiny new games and even shinier services, but that doesn't mean much if they're stuck in their own service agreement. an eu court would love to fine sony out the ass for actions that were never mentioned in the agreement, if only to plug their own leaking budget (even more so after corona) - so any profit sony could make with that move could be rendered moot if the EU decides it's a good excuse to milk sony. on top the possible PR fallout.

and that's still hypothetical for now, more likely your console will brick itself before sony starts any shenanigans on their end. have you tried to buy a new dualshock 3 recently? if that thing inevitably breaks your ps3 is as much a paperweight as with a dead battery. your only other options are trying to fix it yourself, by an offbrand controller (which are getting rarer over time too) or an adapter (which thanks to fight sticks might be available for a bit longer thanks to your trusty chink vendor).
when your psp/psv inevitably croaks any fix/replacement will be even harder to come by.

don't get me wrong, it's a shitty move all around, but physical won't save you from the rest of your system breaking down at some point either. all your nice discs are worthless without a console to play it on.

Something I that s been happening lately is that my ps4 controller seems to not recharge at all seriously yesterday it was charging and now it doesn't even charge

 

[The Doom Slayer]

Sony has became mighty complacent this past generation. If microsoft can combine stores and implement BC going as far back as the first xbox why can't sony and nintendo? Oh I know

The guy currently running PS is a jackass suit who doesn't give a fuck about legacy games - or gaming in general really. He's basically Sony's version of Don Mattrick. This kind of shit would make me very, very wary of purchasing multiplats on Playstation in the future.

For real, Sony would legit be fucked if they didn't have those exclusive games, and if TLOU2 is any indication those aren't bulletproof either. MS is doing almost everything better IMO, and with how they're running around buying everything and generally trying to be as consumer friendly as possible, I'd be very careful about making shitheel moves like this if I was Sony.

PS4 was my main platform last gen but my god they're pissing me off a lot lately.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The guy currently running PS is a jackass suit who doesn't give a fuck about legacy games - or gaming in general really. He's basically Sony's version of Don Mattrick. This kind of shit would make me very, very wary of purchasing multiplats on Playstation in the future.

For real, Sony would legit be fucked if they didn't have those exclusive games, and if TLOU2 is any indication those aren't bulletproof either. MS is doing almost everything better IMO, and with how they're running around buying everything and generally trying to be as consumer friendly as possible, I'd be very careful about making shitheel moves like this if I was Sony.

PS4 was my main platform last gen but my god they're pissing me off a lot lately.

If you mean Jim Ryan, he's not some corporate mastermind or fleecer, he just exists and does what the people above him tell him to do, he's getting two new handlers coming in from japan apparently. People have really started to personify him to be like Sony's version of Eisner, but he falls way short because he's not an ideologue and he also lacks vision like Eisner did to really fuck shit up. Like Eisner wanted to turn Magic Kingdom into some borderline Las Vegas and made a ton of moves to do so, while Jim Ryan just doesn't do jack shit.

Really if you want a wreckingball of a CEO read up on Eisner, I kind of wish he was CEO instead of Iger when they started to buy up marvel and do the MCU, Eisner would have gone full retard and burned the fucking ships just to get marvel rides into the parks.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

This annoys me for a specific reason, and that reason is the PlayStation Classics library is just gonna be gone.

I like to collect retro video games, but I don't like the idea of spending absurd amounts of money for one video game. Take Klonoa for example, that game costs anywhere from $200 to $400. That is fucking insane. Meanwhile you can just buy it for $5.99 on the PSN and not have to worry about dropping a mortgage just to play a video game (a video game that's roughly 5 hours no less). It's nice and cheap. Unfortunately, the Classics library was absent from the PS4, and the only games that did appear were ports, like the Final Fantasy games and PaRappa the Rapper. There's a not-insignificant number of games on the PS3's store that are extremely rare otherwise, and those prices are gonna skyrocket now that one of the only places to get them for cheap is going to vanish real soon.

There are the rumors of the PS5 offering some sort of backwards compatibility, but I'm not holding my breath on that, plus I'm not even sure I can justify getting a PS5 for a good long while. The other solution is to emulate those games, and quite frankly I'm starting to see the appeal given that the legit services that archive those games are just gonna be shut down.

 

[Jasper2K]

This annoys me for a specific reason, and that reason is the PlayStation Classics library is just gonna be gone.

I like to collect retro video games, but I don't like the idea of spending absurd amounts of money for one video game. Take Klonoa for example, that game costs anywhere from $200 to $400. That is fucking insane. Meanwhile you can just buy it for $5.99 on the PSN and not have to worry about dropping a mortgage just to play a video game (a video game that's roughly 5 hours no less). It's nice and cheap. Unfortunately, the Classics library was absent from the PS4, and the only games that did appear were ports, like the Final Fantasy games and PaRappa the Rapper. There's a not-insignificant number of games on the PS3's store that are extremely rare otherwise, and those prices are gonna skyrocket now that one of the only places to get them for cheap is going to vanish real soon.

There are the rumors of the PS5 offering some sort of backwards compatibility, but I'm not holding my breath on that, plus I'm not even sure I can justify getting a PS5 for a good long while. The other solution is to emulate those games, and quite frankly I'm starting to see the appeal given that the legit services that archive those games are just gonna be shut down.

Good thing all the playstation classics (At least ps1) are easy to pirate. This dumb shit only encourages piracy. I don't mind dropping 10 or so dollars on classics from nintendo or sony, but they opted to be dip shits so fuck em. You better not hold your breath on ps5 being backwards compatibile you'd suffocate.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Good thing all the playstation classics (At least ps1) are easy to pirate. This dumb shit only encourages piracy. I don't mind dropping 10 or so dollars on classics from nintendo or sony, but they opted to be dip shits so fuck em. You better not hold your breath on ps5 being backwards compatibile you'd suffocate.

Honestly somethings going to give, they riled up the villagers with this announcement and all the pitchforks are directed at the tech support and social media crew. Not even the censoorship bullshit ever reached these heights, it's quite interesting to wacth.

The real ideal outcome would be that they start offering physical collections as well as digital.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Pirate everything.

 

[John Titor]

Here's to some autistic rain man who can figure out how to pirate PSN exclusives.

 

[The Doom Slayer]

The whole PS5 BC thing is a pipe dream. They just don't give a shit about it, especially when they're still making money hand over first with the PS5. And yes, I've seen the patents, but I think at most it would be a PS Now thing... though that's something they've neglected pretty badly too.

I'd LOVE to be wrong on this, of course. But I would be legit shocked if it happened.

People always say "They do this so they can sell remasters" and I'm always baffled, because the VAST majority of PS games haven't been remastered at all. Iconic games such as the God of War trilogy, Killzone trilogy, Infamous 1/2, Resistance trilogy, the PS2/3 Ratchet & Clank games, etc. are not able to be purchased on PS4/5. Which is honestly just fucking insane to me.

 

[Jasper2K]

Honestly somethings going to give, they riled up the villagers with this announcement and all the pitchforks are directed at the tech support and social media crew. Not even the censoorship bullshit ever reached these heights, it's quite interesting to wacth.

The real ideal outcome would be that they start offering physical collections as well as digital.

Im outside Playstations headquarters shaking my fist angrily.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The whole PS5 BC thing is a pipe dream. They just don't give a shit about it, especially when they're still making money hand over first with the PS5. And yes, I've seen the patents, but I think at most it would be a PS Now thing... though that's something they've neglected pretty badly too.

I'd LOVE to be wrong on this, of course. But I would be legit shocked if it happened.

People always say "They do this so they can sell remasters" and I'm always baffled, because the VAST majority of PS games haven't been remastered at all. Iconic games such as the God of War trilogy, Killzone trilogy, Infamous 1/2, Resistance trilogy, the PS2/3 Ratchet & Clank games, etc. are not able to be purchased on PS4/5. Which is honestly just fucking insane to me.

They're causing a surge in panic buyers there's about a billion lists of supposed things that claim will be gone forever once PSN for PS3 shuts down but they're not well researched.

For example Tokyo Jungle has a physical edition that was released in america. It came as part of collection of PSN games on disc. But many list it as digital only and for a good long while the disc was only about 10 bucks because it also had sound shapes, fat princess, and When Vikings Attack on it as well.

There's also stuff like Daytona USA and others that are on PSNow that are version specific.

But stuff like Killzone have been taken offline and vast parts of the game have been missing for years now. Killzone 2 and 3 had their online shutdown years ago and those parts were larger than the single player campaign itself. Resistance is somewhat similar, 1 and 3 are complete but 2 had major online components that are now missing since it was taken offline years ago.

 

[Drain Todger]

This is what I hate the most about digital content delivery services. One day, the company goes out of business, or they decide to close a storefront for obsolete hardware, and it's like "now all your games have ceased to exist, lol".

Doesn't anyone care about physical media and archival, anymore? These things are a touchstone and a gateway to our past. Why this obsession with neophilia and living in the eternal present?

Think about what this means. Think about what it means to live in a world where the past no longer exists, and where history is completely mutable. History is power, and it is a power that should never be relinquished so easily.

 

[Kulee Baba]

The whole PS5 BC thing is a pipe dream. They just don't give a shit about it, especially when they're still making money hand over first with the PS5. And yes, I've seen the patents, but I think at most it would be a PS Now thing... though that's something they've neglected pretty badly too.

I'd LOVE to be wrong on this, of course. But I would be legit shocked if it happened.

People always say "They do this so they can sell remasters" and I'm always baffled, because the VAST majority of PS games haven't been remastered at all. Iconic games such as the God of War trilogy, Killzone trilogy, Infamous 1/2, Resistance trilogy, the PS2/3 Ratchet & Clank games, etc. are not able to be purchased on PS4/5. Which is honestly just fucking insane to me.

If I want to legally revisit the Metal Gear Solid series (pre MGSV) I have to pull out my old PS3 from the closet and hope the old hardware & controller still works. It utterly sucks and is a major reason why I'm happy that third parties have embraced the PC platform.

Sure I don't "own" my Steam/GOG games, but at least I know they'll still be playable for me as long as I have some kind of Windows PC. And Steam especially is going nowhere as Valve makes a killing off Counter-Strike gamblers.

 

[Marissa Moira]

And Steam especially is going nowhere as Valve makes a killing off Counter-Strike gamblers.

Oh boy, never say never. You're putting all your eggs into a single basket and with how Chicoms buy up shit and fuck with stuff it wouldn't take much. Never base it off of "Company X is big and therefore isn't going anywhere" or "Company X is good and won't do Y". I can still play games from the 1970's on it's physical media since I own the systems(and at this point the TV input adaptors), will Steam still be the same 50 years out?

I'm seeing similar things across many places, there's people who think streaming is the same as downloading/owning which is why many are thinking that Xbox's game streaming service means you download and own the games. So there's quite a bit of ignorance going on even with the current situation.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Oh boy, never say never. You're putting all your eggs into a single basket and with how Chicoms buy up shit and fuck with stuff it wouldn't take much. Never base it off of "Company X is big and therefore isn't going anywhere" or "Company X is good and won't do Y". I can still play games from the 1970's on it's physical media since I own the systems(and at this point the TV input adaptors), will Steam still be the same 50 years out?

I'm seeing similar things across many places, there's people who think streaming is the same as downloading/owning which is why many are thinking that Xbox's game streaming service means you download and own the games. So there's quite a bit of ignorance going on even with the current situation.

I dunno I just have more faith that Steam libraries will hold for longer because Valve just pays for servers. Even if Valve is bought I feel Amazon & Microsoft would have an intense bidding war just to control that legacy service and the beast known as Counter-Strike. And they'll keep it around because nerds want it and will keep using it.

Bigger problem IMO will be seeing how those aging PC games will stay compatible with an ever updating Windows OS. But it's a big prerogative for Microsoft to keep Windows legacy support decent as tons of companies still use old ass software for very important services.

PS3 exclusive Metal Gear Solid 4 though is unlikely to ever be played legally on modern hardware. And that sucks that Sony and Konami are so lazy.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I dunno I just have more faith that Steam libraries will hold for longer because Valve just pays for servers. Even if Valve is bought I feel Amazon & Microsoft would have an intense bidding war just to control that legacy service and the beast known as Counter-Strike. And they'll keep it around because nerds want it and will keep using it.

Bigger problem IMO will be seeing how those aging PC games will stay compatible with an ever updating Windows OS. But it's a big prerogative for Microsoft to keep Windows legacy support decent as tons of companies still use old ass software for very important services.

PS3 exclusive Metal Gear Solid 4 though is unlikely to ever be played legally on modern hardware. And that sucks that Sony and Konami are so lazy.

If Microsoft legacy support was worthwhile we wouldn't have had Gog spring up. There's a market for old games but being that OS systems are moving towards mobile bullshit even right down to the interface, even if they promise legacy supports it's going to have fucking weird shit grafted to it.

You also have a bunch of Always Online stuff like Fortnite which won't matter, because once the servers go, the game goes with it just like what happened with Gearbox and it's online shooter.

If Valve was bought up by Amazon or Microsoft they wouldn't be interested in legacy devices and servers either, it would be market share and monetization. Old games would be the first thing to go under new management.

Honestly you need more companies like GOG if you want to preserve old stuff and make it part of the market. There's companies like Discotek for anime, and while one helps, having 4 or 5 active companies would be even better.

I dunno if THQ nordic would count I mean they've been doing HD remasters of some smaller titles and can get the rights to some weird stuff, but they still mostly focus on new titles.

 

[SolidZone 26]

Build a PC and just emulate console games. Hell play it better than the original hardware.