Pseudoscience - Anti Vaxxers, Creationists, Anti Nuclear/GM fanatics, and other charlatans.

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Except, as even an issue of Law & Order: SVU managed to point out, antivaxxers infect other people who can't be vaccinated (infants, the elderly, the immunocompromised) because they won't. That's a tiny bit more problematic than merely freaking out about tomatoes.

(Seriously, anti-GMO people, if you want to go after Private Villa of Corrupted Crops for something, how about having one of its former attorneys on the Supreme Court, who refuses to recuse himself from cases involving Private Villa of Corrupted Crops?)

I don't really know what this was in response to but yeah, there is absolutely nothing wrong with altering the structure of a plant to either make it grow faster, resist disease, and withstand harsh environmental stressors. Those who want to grow regular plants? They can. You can get heirloom seeds mail order or from farm supply stores. The fact that EVIL MONSANTO can trademark seeds? You don't have to personally use them. Nobody has to. The fact is, they have been developed to be the most productive agricultural products around. Read;PRODUCT.

It's the sane thing with animals. Broad Breasted Whites are the most suited to grow quickly and be produced in the spectrum of turkeys. They don't live long lives and they are the Frankenstein monsters of the poultry world but they grow so quickly it is astounding.
 
I don't really know what this was in response to but yeah, there is absolutely nothing wrong with altering the structure of a plant to either make it grow faster, resist disease, and withstand harsh environmental stressors. Those who want to grow regular plants? They can. You can get heirloom seeds mail order or from farm supply stores. The fact that EVIL Private Villa of Corrupted Crops can trademark seeds? You don't have to personally use them. Nobody has to. The fact is, they have been developed to be the most productive agricultural products around. Read;PRODUCT.

It's the sane thing with animals. Broad Breasted Whites are the most suited to grow quickly and be produced in the spectrum of turkeys. They don't live long lives and they are the Frankenstein monsters of the poultry world but they grow so quickly it is astounding.

But but, DA EBILE BUISNESSES ARE MAKIN DA MONEY ON NATURES BOUNTY!!!

Most anti-Gm people seem to think it's possible that everyone go back to having to grow their own food. That billions would starve doesn't matter, it will make them feel better about themselves. They are the SJW of food.

As for the anti-vac people, maybe we could reopen a few leper colonies for them?
 
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http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...-centre/ar-BByqtio?li=AAabC8j&ocid=spartandhp

A Sydney mum wants to open a "vaccination-free" childcare centre. 2/16












Malcolm Turnbull talks to us about anti-vaxxers





A Sydney mum is taking “expressions of interests” for a private, anti-vaccination childcare on the Northern Beaches. Children will learn through “play and games, art and craft, yoga and dance” at this “vaccination-free” centre.

“I would like to open a daycare in my home for three to four children, two days per week,” Heidi Street posted to the private Facebook group Vaccine Free Australia.

The title of the post was “Vaccine-free childcare on the Northern Beaches”.

“I have a strong passion for health and well-being and have a beautiful nurturing soul,” the post continues.

“Children’s days would be spent amongst nature, a walk to beach, learning through play and games, art and craft, yoga, dance and hopefully lots of laughter and giggles.”

It comes as the Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is pressuring the state and territory governments to ban unvaccinated children from childcare centres.

“This has got to be a concerted national effort by all governments to ensure all our children can be vaccinated,” Mr Turnbull told the ABC earlier this month.

“No jab, no pay, no play.”

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© Facebook Heidi Street. Now, Street’s suggestion has reportedly been met with inquiries from supporters who want to do a similar thing in different locations throughout Australia.

“Many families are concerned about vaccinating. Yes, it’s in response to ‘No Jab, No Play’,” Street told the Sunshine Coast Daily.

The mother of two sends her eldest son to a Steiner school and has campaigned on Facebook previously to bring the movie Vaxxed to Australia.

The film’s most controversial claims include the polio vaccine causes cancer, and the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) vaccine is linked to autism.

The problem is, the danger of an unvaccinated childcare centre extends far beyond the children themselves.

Yes, these children are at greater risk of contracting diseases such as measles and smallpox and polio.

“These kids are essentially at risk of developing serious and even life-threatening illness because they’re not vaccinated,” Sydney general practitioner Dr Penny Adams told Today this morning.

But they’re also likely to undo the “herd immunity” of the wider community. This protects people who aren’t vaccinated – maybe they’ve travelled from overseas; or they’re children undergoing chemotherapy; or they’re elderly with a compromised immune system.

"We need everybody in the community to be vaccinated, so those people are safe as well," Dr Adams added.

There are currently no vaccination requirements for admissions into childcare centres in the Norther Territory, Australian Capital Territory, South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania.

Children in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria, however, are required to be fully immunised, or on approved catch-up programs, before enrolling in childcare.

"Vaccinations would have saved at least three million lives in the last year," Dr Adams said. "There is no merit at all in the anti-vaccination argument. It has been proven absolutely, scientifically."
 
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Homeopathy pisses me off. It's nothing but a scam and should be completely illegal. I can't believe they recently classified it as pharma here in Sweden.

Not only is the premise "a hair of the dog that bit you" completely unfounded, the supposedly active ingredient is dilluted to such an extreme degree that the average pill doesn't contain a single molecule of it.

A pro homeopathy blog I read (that of course also sold the product) responded to this problem by going on about how the answer to homeopathy "probably lies in the field of quantum physics and electromagnetism". Yeah, seems legit. God works in mysterious ways right?

Get this: they lie about the contents and get away with it. I could literally buy a load of cornstarch at the supermarket, press it into pills and sell it as homeopathy without breaking any law. At least not in any way that would ever be possible to prove.
 
I'm pretty sure that "anti-GMO" is only "pseudo science" in corporate America, considering that most of Europe has banned them. I doubt any Europeans care what some basement dwelling fedoralord has to say about them being "anti-science".
 
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I'm pretty sure that "anti-GMO" is only "pseudo science" in corporate America, considering that most of Europe has banned them. I doubt any Europeans care what some basement dwelling fedoralord has to say about them being "anti-science".

It has more to do with how GMO is a scary buzzword-you hear "genetically modified" and your mind jumps immediately to the worst of Syfy Channel Original Movies, when really, a good majority of "genetically modified" means "cross bred with other plants to ensure productive yields and resistance to weather and insects", but that doesn't fit on a business card or into talking points.
 
I'm pretty sure that "anti-GMO" is only "pseudo science" in corporate America, considering that most of Europe has banned them. I doubt any Europeans care what some basement dwelling fedoralord has to say about them being "anti-science".

Except that they were banned out of a baseless fear and not science. Populism is not even remotely scientific.
Nice ad-hominem bruh about the fedoras and corporations.

I didn't know that the World Health Organization, the European Food Safety Agency, and the International Council for Science were run by people with fedoras or corporations.

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/genetically-modified-organisms
http://www.icsu.org/publications/re...-scientific-discoveries-societal-dilemas-2003
http://www.who.int/foodsafety/areas_work/food-technology/faq-genetically-modified-food/en/

For example, France has restrictions on GMOs but the French Academy of Sciences released a statement saying that GMO fears were unfounded.

http://www.merid.org/Content/News_S...s_Support_For_Genetically_Modified_Crops.aspx
 
I'm pretty sure that "anti-GMO" is only "pseudo science" in corporate America, considering that most of Europe has banned them. I doubt any Europeans care what some basement dwelling fedoralord has to say about them being "anti-science".

The primary reason they've done that is because most of the products in question are from the USA. It's protectionism, not science.
 
Here is answer in genesis the centre of all ceration science knowledge
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/
Here is what I consister the logical failing in creation "science" if god created humans with free will why we he place false information as a test of faith ? Indeed this idea of a knowable creation is arguably why scienction revolutionial were primary based in Judeo-Christian nations. Indeed, this "science " is placing the faith in a false paradim
 
Here is answer in genesis the centre of all ceration science knowledge
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/
Here is what I consister the logical failing in creation "science" if god created humans with free will why we he place false information as a test of faith ? Indeed this idea of a knowable creation is arguably why scienction revolutionial were primary based in Judeo-Christian nations. Indeed, this "science " is placing the faith in a false paradim

Creationists base their views on a willful misinterpretation of biblical knowledge. tl;dr: The word 'day' as used in the Genesis account is, in the original Hebrew, not a term that refers to a specific 24-hour period of elapsed time. The 'day' in question just establishes that each act of creation was separate and incremental, I.E one 'day' of labor was spent creating the seas, then another 'day' the heavens, etc. Creationism is a fundamentally flawed belief system because it not only contradicts established scientific facts, but deliberately ignores or misinterprets its own source material in order to maintain internal consistency.

Edit: Don't know if this has been brought up yet, but I decided to google 'do vaccines cause autism' on a whim, and this was the first result.
 
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I'm pretty sure that "anti-GMO" is only "pseudo science" in corporate America, considering that most of Europe has banned them. I doubt any Europeans care what some basement dwelling fedoralord has to say about them being "anti-science".
Is that the same Europe has also legally decided that plants are functionally sentient and deserving of moral standards?
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The Committee members unanimously consider an arbitrary harm caused to plants to be morally impermissible. This kind of treatment would include, e.g. decapitation of wild flowers at the roadside without rational reason.
For the majority here too, plants – as a collective, as a species, or as individuals – are excluded for moral reasons from absolute ownership. By this interpretation no one may handle plants entirely according to his/her own desires. A minority concludes that no limits apply to handling plants insofar as they are property.
 
someone has died from an IV injection of turmeric.

naturopathic "doctor" doing an unlicensed experiment of some sort, apparently. aren't there laws against human experimentation?
http://www.10news.com/news/team-10/encinitas-woman-dead-after-i-v-infusion-of-turmeric

I think I'm going to expand this post.
black salve, a dangerous irritant used on the surface of the skin, which eats away and destroys the skin layers, is used by some to "draw out" cancer. people will also take it orally, hoping to cure internal cancers.

the most dramatic and cow-like example of this is this woman - who refused to have a minor surgery, instead eating away part of her face with salve, then going on to pay tens of thousands for COSMETIC SURGERY FROM A REAL DOCTOR afterward- yet still continues to think the salve saved her life.

black salve
talk: http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1302&whichpage=2

images of the specific woman I'm mentioning: http://m.imgur.com/a/oKqxL

alternative cancer treatments:
coffee enemas and a protocol that can make most cases worsen quickly- similar treatments are the reason Steve Jobs died from such a treatable illness.

http://gerson.org/gerpress/the-gerson-therapy/

I spent nearly a month of my life talking a good friend out of doing this instead of radiation/chemo. I'm happy to say she finally went with western medicine and has now been in remission for three years.


FUCKING MERCOLA. http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/08/03/why-does-dr-mercola-sell-supplements/


basically, for every illness, there's a panacea someone will sell you. I work with medicine so if we get into talking about specific illness groups I could go on for days about the random crap I've seen people attempt as treatment, before coming in for real medicine.

yes big pharma and insurance companies are greed-motivated. but the shit works. it's the economics that need changing, the motivation- not the actual treatments.

I'd like to point out that every single "alternative" treatment COSTS MONEY and is actually more expensive in the long run than standard treatment, which is covered by insurance as well.


eta: herbal and other alternative stuff are more dangerous than homeopathy, actually. homeopathy is just bottled water/cornstarch pills/alcohol. there's no active ingredient.
herbs can interact with other medications and their production is not regulated at all. they can pack capsules with cornstarch or sawdust and sell it to you as anything they like. there's no testing done on amount or efficacy. it's unregulated. DANGEROUS.

here's the double post kicker, my favorite pseudoscience (given my specialty):

breatharians. http://skepdic.com/inedia.html
 
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The regulation of GM crops in Europe varies massively from country to country. For those countries in the EU, the EU has to authorise a GM crop before farmers can legally grow it, but 49 crops have passed the test, including varieties of cotton, maize, soybeans, oilseed rape, and sugar beet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Union

Spain has embraced GM the most. 20% of Spain's corn output is GM varieties. A few EU members like Germany, France, and Bulgaria have banned GM crops under their own laws, but there isn't a ban at the EU level. Switzerland also bans GM, though they aren't in the EU.

here's the double post kicker, my favorite pseudoscience (given my specialty):

breatharians. http://skepdic.com/inedia.html

I've seen a lot of daft movements in my time, but how on Earth does this movement not die out in a few weeks from starvation?
 
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