Pseudoscience - Anti Vaxxers, Creationists, Anti Nuclear/GM fanatics, and other charlatans.

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Homeopathy pisses me off as well. Sugar pills without any actual purpose being sold in pharmacies, shit should be banned and sold only by private snake oil salesmen.

Infuriatingly, in the U.S., these are often sold in pharmacies directly next to real medicine at comparable prices, specifically to dupe careless consumers. This should be criminal fraud.
 
Infuriatingly, in the U.S., these are often sold in pharmacies directly next to real medicine at comparable prices, specifically to dupe careless consumers. This should be criminal fraud.
I've actually examined a label for homeopathic sprain cream. And on the back, there's the typical health product information layout. But curiously, the "Uses" category is accompanied by the asterisk. What does the fine print say? "These "Uses" have not been evaluated by the FDA". Yes, the "Uses" is actually in quotes. Which basically means they know it won't work, but very sneakily disguise it as doing so.
 
That is a biological reality, plants are a form of life which on a cellular level are linked to animals, as for whether or not they can "feel pain" I'm not an expert, but the notion that plants and animals are "fundamentally different" is more of a human construct and not grounded in actual science.

Which is why militant vegans are somewhat hypocritical.

The primary reason they've done that is because most of the products in question are from the USA. It's protectionism, not science.
The same USA in which there are still controversies over whether or not Biblical creationism should be tought in science classes is apparently the leading world's expert on "science" now, lol.

I'm not morbidly afraid of GMO foods, but the pro-GMO spiel is primarily corporate PR just using "science" to give it credibility, and primarily benefits corporate profits, not science or society, plus considering that American corporations have previously tried to market Virginia Slims as a "weight loss" product is all the more reason not to blindly trust what some mediocre corporate-backed American scientist has to say.
 
That is a biological reality, plants are a form of life which on a cellular level are linked to animals, as for whether or not they can "feel pain" I'm not an expert, but the notion that plants and animals are "fundamentally different" is more of a human construct and not grounded in actual science.

Which is why militant vegans are somewhat hypocritical.
There are many fundamental biological differences between plants and animals. Here's one.
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Unless chloroplasts and autotrophy aren't fundamental. In that case, what is? Hell, if it's not, an alcohol spill to you is genocide to bacteria.
 
There are many fundamental biological differences between plants and animals. Here's one.
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Unless chloroplasts and autotrophy aren't fundamental. In that case, what is? Hell, if it's not, an alcohol spill to you is genocide to bacteria.
Eh, I'll have to read up on the science texts I was basing this off of, but on either the cellular or DNA level, bacteria are fundamentally different than plants or animals, while plants and animals are essentially interrelated.
 
Eh, I'll have to read up on the science texts I was basing this off of, but on either the cellular or DNA level, bacteria are fundamentally different than plants or animals, while plants and animals are essentially interrelated.
The only two things fundamentally different between eukaryotes and prokaryotes is a simplified method of division in bacteria, compared to plants and animals which undergo mitosis, and the location and regulation of RNA translation, which makes protein. I wouldn't think mitosis is what makes plants dignified, and the protein synthesis is a nuance. The presence of organelles and many other functions only facilitate eukaryotes to do things a bacteria could achieve on its own due to its much smaller scale. The fundamental systems that they operate with are identical though.

Oh, and bacteria DNA is a highly undignified circle form instead of the strand form of the glorious eukaryotes, if that matters to you.
 
That is a biological reality, plants are a form of life which on a cellular level are linked to animals, as for whether or not they can "feel pain" I'm not an expert, but the notion that plants and animals are "fundamentally different" is more of a human construct and not grounded in actual science.
Your notion of "fundamental difference" is your own construct.

"Plant neurobiology" is a legit field of pursuit, as plants are known for transmuting environmental changes into electrical signals, conduct such electrical signals rapidly in a manner analogous to the animal nervous system (most famously in the mimosa plant and the venus fly trap, but it is more widespread than that), even capable of computer-like memory. But to claim that these features elevate plants to "sentience" and morally-considerable beings is a huge ludicrous stretch. It is like saying that your computer can also feel pain and is secretly crying inside when your browse Kiwi Farms.
 
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The benefits of measles? Well, you won't go to school for a while. And you could get brain damage. So if you want a thread on Kiwi Farms, get measles! There's a decent chance you'll become a frothing tard.

At least Melanie won't get autism. She'll just have brain damage from an easily preventable disease that should have been wiped out a long time ago.

This book suggests that you can heal naturally from measles. I wonder what's next, The Joys of Polio?
 
I don't care about the suffering of wheat plants. I like pork, too.

power leveling here. but plant emotions is definitely pseudo science.

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About science and God - I saw somebody say science is how God messes with His kids. All I can picture after that is God wearing a trollface and saying "Okay, you little shits, the training wheels are coming off. Go love each other, figure the universe out and call me when you get done doing all that."

And now He facepalms because we use technology to laugh at a fat tranny manchild instead of moving our asses into space sooner.

Btw I go with evolution and figure the Bible is baby humanity trying to explain things it doesn't have enough language to explain yet. It's a nice guide for not being a total asshat with a lot of helpful things in it for people going through hardship but some people misuse it as an excuse for bigotry or ignorance because they're too chickenshit to admit they're ignorant bigots.
 
Homeopathy pisses me off as well. Sugar pills without any actual purpose being sold in pharmacies, shit should be banned and sold only by private snake oil salesmen.

Sometimes its not sugar pills sometimes they put in really toxic plant extracts.

Always be wary of "natural medicine" that is largely unregulated.
 
Happened in an italian region (emilia romagna) some months ago:
the regional president and parliament approved a law that banned not vaccined kids (exceptions to those few who can't cause they're intolerant to some elements etc.) to enter public pre-schools for sanitary reasons. Many people went insane and called the law deplorable cause "it discriminates not vaccined kids and excludes them from the most important social context that is school". Thoughts?
 
Happened in an italian region (emilia romagna) some months ago:
the regional president and parliament approved a law that banned not vaccined kids (exceptions to those few who can't cause they're intolerant to some elements etc.) to enter public pre-schools for sanitary reasons. Many people went insane and called the law deplorable cause "it discriminates not vaccined kids and excludes them from the most important social context that is school". Thoughts?
Not good enough; their parents should be penalized, e.g. by a fine that grows with the period the parent denies the child immunization.
 
Happened in an italian region (emilia romagna) some months ago:
the regional president and parliament approved a law that banned not vaccined kids (exceptions to those few who can't cause they're intolerant to some elements etc.) to enter public pre-schools for sanitary reasons. Many people went insane and called the law deplorable cause "it discriminates not vaccined kids and excludes them from the most important social context that is school". Thoughts?

Prisons discriminate against people who commit crimes, too, by incarcerating them.

There's nothing wrong with discriminating against unvaccinated kids for health reasons. They have the option to become vaccinated like everyone else, and there are exceptions if they have some reason other than pure delusion for choosing to remain unvaccinated.
 
We all know whites are the prettiest!

On EU and GM, here in Hungary all political parties are strictly anti-GM, from left to right and banned it in unison, a totally unique political happening.

Honestly the people just go along with it because one part of them is fucking stupid, and the other part really, really hates how some companies dare prohibit them from simply buying seeds once and just using those forever, or simply have concerns about "stupid/greedy/unscrupolous americans making low grade crap and selling it to us".

The break of replenting seeds from harvest is a strong cultural taboo and causes extreme outrage. As a whole our culture does not like western economical practices.

I bought the game so it is mine forever and I can do with it as I please.
I bought the seeds so it is mine forever and I can do with it is as I please.
If westerners think otherwise, fuck em, we'll ban their plants and torrent their shit.

While I am for GM in principle, I think it needs to be verified very thorougly and that making shit like selling seeds every year to the poor farmer is simply unacceptable. It would be best licensed to the goverment only, to at least try to lessen the way greedy companies and NGOs corrupt anything.

There was also a talk about hungarian and russian scientists finding errors in Monsato's stuff in the UK, being fired and than going back to their home countries which took action. I can not verify if this is false or true.
Oh, found this. Make of it what you will:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/gmo-re...dence-denied-and-a-population-at-risk/5305324
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Árpád_Pusztai

Also creationists are retarded.

If whites were aryans... who tought us to put the poo in the loo?
 
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