Questions for the female autists here - Sneed

[Android raptor]

Don't you hate the double bind clothes present? It was always fraught for me (still is tbh). You need to find that just-right point on the slider between "frumpy Jewish wife" and "walking, talking porn trope", and whoops, everyone else's definition of the Goldilocks point is different.

I just wore clothes from the boys department as much as I could get away with even though I got shit from my family nonstop. Apparently being a minor girl uncomfortable wearing low-cut, skintight everything was also "inappropriate for a girl".

 

[NoReturn]

I just wore clothes from the boys department as much as I could get away with even though I got shit from my family nonstop. Apparently being a minor girl uncomfortable wearing low-cut, skintight everything was also "inappropriate for a girl".

Wear tight clothing: "You're showing off. You're sending the wrong impression"
Wear loose clothing: "Why are you hiding in that sweater? Aren't you hot? Put some effort into your appearance."
Wear tight clothing: "Don't stand that way. No not that way either, don't hunch over."
Wear loose clothing: "You aren't going to get a job like that, you need to dress professionally."
Tiresome.

 

[salvuserit]

Thinly veiled power level thread. Op is sexually attracted to children.

 

[Load Bearing Drywall]

People from my parent's generation remember (and yours probably do too) that in lieu of a diagnosis, children with ADHD or ASD or dyslexia etc. would just get their asses whooped by their parents and be told to straighten up and behave better.

Oh hey, I'm an elder millenial, my parents refused to get me assessed and that was 100% how my parents raised me.

I could go into the job stuff too... suffice to say, if you're a woman who is a little slow on the social uptake, it's pretty hard to find a job where you're a good fit, so to speak.

This 100% doesn't happen to high functioning men like it happens to women.

I think male spergs like our friend earlier in the thread have such poor theory of mind that they can't conceive of the fact that women are held to different and higher standards when it comes to social skills and project management. Female autists are disabled compared to NT females, even if less retarded at first glance than your average incel sperg.

 

[Convallaria majalis]

I think male spergs like our friend earlier in the thread have such poor theory of mind that they can't conceive of the fact that women are held to different and higher standards when it comes to social skills and project management. Female autists are disabled compared to NT females, even if less retarded at first glance than your average incel sperg.

I worked on a team where the men straight-up retreated to their corners to get work done or do whatever they wanted to do. I was bullied out of the team because I didn't socialize often enough, though I went out of my way to do so. I was accused of being stuck-up and thinking I'm better than everyone else.

Back in the day, when autism was considered "extreme male brain," I wonder how autistic women got along. I just can't meet the standards of doormat and fawning that are set for women because I don't give enough of a shit. My former male colleagues would never be expected to plan mandatory fun in the office, for example.

 

[Chromeo]

I just wore clothes from the boys department as much as I could get away with even though I got shit from my family nonstop. Apparently being a minor girl uncomfortable wearing low-cut, skintight everything was also "inappropriate for a girl".

Remember getting boobs and every adult being fucking weird about it? Like suddenly every article of clothing became sexual because now adults look at you sexually. The worst part is how much effort it puts on you, as The One With The Boobs Now, to have to consciously monitor yourself at all times just in case someone else decides to look at you wrong. Margaret Atwood was so right when she said "You are a woman with a man inside watching a woman. You are your own voyeur.”

 

[Android raptor]

Remember getting boobs and every adult being fucking weird about it? Like suddenly every article of clothing became sexual because now adults look at you sexually. The worst part is how much effort it puts on you, as The One With The Boobs Now, to have to consciously monitor yourself at all times just in case someone else decides to look at you wrong. Margaret Atwood was so right when she said "You are a woman with a man inside watching a woman. You are your own voyeur.”

It's gross AF adults need to stop being creepy weirdoes about adolescent girls.

Talk about pedophilia being normalized.

 

[Chromeo]

It's gross AF adults need to stop being creepy weirdoes about adolescent girls.

Talk about pedophilia being normalized.

God, right? Every woman/girl I know has a story from being young and having some adult man flirt, sexually harass, or at worst groom or assault them. We gotta just start cutting these dudes' dicks off to make this shit stop.

 

[NoReturn]

God, right? Every woman/girl I know has a story from being young and having some adult man flirt, sexually harass, or at worst groom or assault them. We gotta just start cutting these dudes' dicks off to make this shit stop.

Love to Kazakhstan.

 

[Android raptor]

Love to Kazakhstan.
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If we did this here we'd have a lot of dickless tradmoids and youth pastors.

Other types of moids too obviously but it would be particularly common with them.

Also most dudes driving giant trucks would no longer have a (tiny)dick.

 

[Fukase]

1. I think its rarer in females for whatever reason, and does present in different ways but not always. Also, a quiet and socially anxious young girl is seen as more normal or even well-behaved by adults in school than the male counterpart for whatever reason. It's in unfair double standard but what can you do, life's full of them. And no one gives a fuck about autists when they're not cute kids anymore. So only the drooling retard level of autism gets diagnosed, not the girls who are high-functioning.

2. One thing I generally notice being an issue is companionship with other females. Another unfair double standard is unfortunately at play here; from what I've seen women get more leeway to be "weird" around men without it being a turnoff. Meanwhile non-autistic women (as a general rule, obligatory not all women but the vast majority in my personal experience) are more judgemental of things they see as out of their norm, in both men and other women. I personally always had trouble relating with those types of women and find their habits a bit confusing and irritating, maybe that will ruffle some feathers but i'm being honest since that's the purpose of this thread. I do have a really close friend that's another mild female sperg and we get along quite well; otherwise I found myself getting along more with men. This is also why pooning out is common among misguided younger autistic girls who get their brains rotted by the internet.

3. I did growing up. In late elementary school and middle school, I went to a tiny school and was quite isolated; my mom was partially to blame since she overprotected me too much, but I was also just socially anxious and didn't talk to people hardly at all. Now as an adult, I fit into society ok despite maybe coming off as having a screw or two loose. It is true that females biologically are more socially oriented so social skills may come slightly better to sperg girls than sperg guys, even if they aren't as good as the average woman; I can make friends, talk to people, etc. So I don't particularly care anymore.

3. Like people said before; some are munchies and attention seekers, and I assume that when I see people say they are self diagnosed online. However some people just know. I knew before I even got diagnosed honestly, so I'm sure some are telling the truth.

4. Some of them if they're just weirdos who didn't do anything wrong, but a lot of them I don't sympathize with since they often bring the attention on themselves.

5. Not until adulthood; my parents didn't give a shit so they never got me diagnosed even though it was obvious something was a little off as a young child.

 

[Sigmahat]

YMMV but half my family has the 'tism- the men/boys tend to get diagnosed young and the women/girls only get diagnosed during childhood if they're nonverbal.

1. Less likely to have the telltale verbal delays, aggressiveness, and obvious stimming. These were pretty much the only thing considered "autistic" for a long time, too. On the flip side, I think being an autistic savant is also less common in females. Basically, the social idea of what autism even "is", is a typically male presentation. Heart attacks have the same problem, to be fair.

Women who aren't nonverbal are also heavily socially pressured to mask. Female autists do have the same obsessive interests, people are just much more willing to tell a girl to shut the fuck up. There's also significant social pressure to be "friendly" with the general glob of women you end up with as a social pecking order, but don't confuse that with being actual friends, it's a veneer of fawning to avoid being bullied. I think adolescent girls are just prone to extremely intense interests in general, though, cannot tell you how many lunch periods I endured listening to the same argument about who was going to grow up and marry which boy band member.

2. Autists mature slower than neurotypical people, but people usually expect women to mature faster than men. Guys get longer. If he has a good job, a dude can still otherwise live the same life at 35 he did at 18 without too much social stigma. Women get shit about when they're going to grow up and make babies.

My sister is a nonverbal adult and we fortunately have a fairly well-off family, I think her life would be pretty horrific otherwise. My brother was nonverbal until he was 6 and now he's a developer that lives in my parents' basement, so, a regular programmer.

3. I don't have any idea what it'd be like to be neurotypical and I don't see a lot of point in seething over it. You get the meat shell you get, in a lot of ways, and there's no sense being pissy about the parts you don't control. My attitude is probably because I'm old, though, I very much resented it when I was younger.

4. It's a trend. It'll pass.

5. Late 20's. I have a normal life and jerb and hardly anyone knows, though.

 

[r9k-speaks]

lol you stupid fuck.

 

[Heckin’ Fascist Chud]

Why is it harder for females to get diagnosed with autism?
Autistic females present differently than males, however, the more severe the autism is, the less different males and females are. It’s also extremely common for females with bpd/just weird personality to think they’re autistic, so a lot of their screeching muddies up how much misdiagnosis there actually is.

What problems do women with it face that guys (usually) don't?
It’s understood that autistic men are going to be weird and misbehave, and so people make excuses for them. The general public can also clock men as being autistic much more often because of all the male-centrism in mainstream advocacy. Women usually don’t get that luxury unless they’re literally level 3.

Did you actually mind having the tism or is it just 'what it is'?
I’m fairly Buddhist-level accepting of pretty much everything in my life except for this. My quality of life and the things I could have achieved by now would be much greater if it weren’t for the autism. I recently felt a twinge of jealousy towards level 1/former Asperger’s autistics.

What's your take on "self diagnosed autists"?
Same as my take on every self DXer. Dumb, usually for attention, and doesn’t actually help you in any way in the event that you happen to be right.

Do you feel bad for any of the cows with autism or do you just feel schadenfreude?
I mostly feel for the ones who are truly out of touch with how everything in the world works. But no, for the most part. Most autistic lolcows also happen to be bad people.

Bonus question: what age did you get diagnosed
21, with level 2. I know how weird it is to be diagnosed with that so late in life, but my upbringing was full of drama that made a diagnosis the last of anyone’s priorities. The testing also revealed that I have exceptional verbal/communication skills, which I guess is why I’m able to be someone who is both level 2 and able to write this comment.

 

[Aljam]

I knew a female autist who had adhd and the tism. She got raped in kindergarten and a few other times though. I think she was more of a sperg though who would randomly blurt out weird fetish shit. Probably masking her trauma by being the weird quirky art girl

 

[The Cunting Death]

What the fuck

 

[bjarven]

Why is it harder for females to get diagnosed with autism?
I met a lot of both men and women with the tism, and all of them have very different personalities, but you can make out certain "types". I think women can pretend to be "normal" with more success than men can. Perhaps it is more common in men, as well? idk

What problems do women with it face that guys (usually) don't?
I feel that the "autistic behaviour and interests" are deemed more acceptable for men and boys. My parents dragged me to the doctor to get the diagnosis when i was very young, and this was for "sorting objects for comfort" and having obsessive interests normal things like computers. I am pretty 2 some of my brothers have the tism too, but it is not considered a problem if a guy wants to play warlords battlecry 3 for the rest of his life, but if a woman wants to do it, its mental illness. My parents wanted me to marry when i was like 16, because that is what my mother did, and i wanted to study and make mods for games. My brothers never had these expectations.

Did you actually mind having the tism or is it just 'what it is'?
When i was young, but mostly, because others, like my family, disapproved of it. I always like who i am and my life. Me and my family live in a modern country now, and the lack of pressure as well as my age have erased those feelings.

What's your take on "self diagnosed autists"?
Havent met that many i think, in any case, seems cringe and dumb, but they are not bothering me. .

Do you feel bad for any of the cows with autism or do you just feel schadenfreude?
Not at all, my sympathy is very selective.

I got my autism (or aspergers rather) diagnosis when i was in elementary, in 1997. i was about 6 or 7 i think.

 

[Rekeita's Kidneys]

How many lady spergs on here are employed compared to the men? I genuinely wonder this because it's a known thing that autistic people struggle with finding decent employment.

 

[NoReturn]

How many lady spergs on here are employed compared to the men? I genuinely wonder this because it's a known thing that autistic people struggle with finding decent employment.

That's a good goddamn question. Do you think it would be any different if we look at aspies vs "normal" autism?

 

[Susanna]

Women autists mask better. But programming is a more usable special interest than writing Pokemon fanfics.

Actually interesting to consider.