r/Antinatalism - "Fertility...le BAD!" AKA Redditors having a rare moment of not lusting after children, and somehow still being fucking awful in the process.

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They have a big crossover population with r/collapsesupport which the delusion theories of a lot of them use as their justification for antinatalism.

Anyway, I liked this one:
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You should also see the subs that collapse has colonized: r/latestagecapitalism, r/climate, r/darkfuturology, r/aboringdystopia, r/environment to name a few. They're also in the process of colonizing r/news, r/worldnews, and r/conspiracy.
 
You should also see the subs that collapse has colonized: r/latestagecapitalism, r/climate, r/darkfuturology, r/aboringdystopia, r/environment to name a few. They're also in the process of colonizing r/news, r/worldnews, and r/conspiracy.
r/news and r/worldnews have already been colonized by weirdos a few years back though.
 
This may sound like religious sperging but I'll say what needs to be said, There was always the saying by the Bible that man was born into sin due to the fallacies of temptation it was prone to so Jesus died on the cross to free mankind under the chance of redemption for eternal sanctuary and paradise. Antinatalism is the exact opposite of this. They go under the dogma all humans are evil due to some weird environmental conspiracy, and instead of killing themselves in a so called attempt to prove their point and just wanted everyone else to die until they kill themselves in the end. Basically dragging the whole human race into hell because after all that appears to be the only thing satisfying this sick cult. If they haven't rivaled Jihadists and Antifa as extremists could it be that they only have enough energy to post on gay ass reddit?

Short Story, the extreme lack of humility with these people are borderline demonic and psychological warfare truly manifested it's odd brutal forms.
 
Their list of affiliate subreddits also sheds some light on the inner workings of the average antinatalist's brain. Typical nihilist/euphoric-atheist dreck revolving around how everything is terrible and wouldn't it be better if everyone was just dead?
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Notable in its absence is r/childfree, I wonder if r/antinatalism's community spun off from it because the normal childfree people weren't extreme enough.
 
I remember joking about hating kids but then I began meeting people like this and stopped joking about it since I want no association with them. Working with kids for a bit I got to appreciate how honest they are as well as their unique ways of looking at the world. And watching my niece grow has been nothing but a joy.
 
Good post, OP. This ideology is commonplace on /R9K/ as well, and you could likely find supporting posts there if needs be. It also might be beneficial to add some of the common argument points that anti-natalists use.
Some examples:
  • "It's selfish to have children!"
  • "You're destroying the world!"
  • "They didn't consent to be born!"
Funny how they almost all anti-natalist arguments eventually boil down to "I don't like that you're FUCKING!".
 
I remember joking about hating kids but then I began meeting people like this and stopped joking about it since I want no association with them. Working with kids for a bit I got to appreciate how honest they are as well as their unique ways of looking at the world. And watching my niece grow has been nothing but a joy.
I'm on the fence about having children for personal reasons in no small part because I understand that dealing with children is a lot, but some of these people and people on r/childfree get real intense with their hatred. Like, it's a literal small child, why are you beefing with it? Imagine getting triggered by an infant so much you have to go sperg about it online.
 
r/antinatalism is a lot tamer these days, I remember back in the day it was so rampant with people absolutely seething about other people having kids that they had to create a new sub where raging at other people's kids was banned, r/TrueAntinatalists

Ultimately this sub and r/childfree have basically turned into women ranting about what some other woman have told them about their kids. Basically vaginal drama instead of discussing the philosophical concept of antinatalism or the childfree lifestyle

However it's not like this thread's any better, I can see it devolving into a /pol/ circlejerk about how da joos or marxist feminism wants to genocide the white race by childlessness just a few pages in with tons of smug fucks posting posts about how they are totally accomplished people because they have nutted inside a woman
 
Ultimately this sub and r/childfree have basically turned into women ranting about what some other woman have told them about their kids. Basically vaginal drama instead of discussing the philosophical concept of antinatalism or the childfree lifestyle
Nah, the vast majority of the posts there read like they were written by euphoric and enlightened male allies and LBGTIDDQBBQ men/genderspecials.
 
What is it with these fag-absorbed redditors and their obsession with consent?

Nobody consented to be born? Okay, well you consent to keep living, so go try out the opposite!
Nobody consented to have kids? Well maybe you should have used one of our ten brazillion contraception options.

This is so retarded it makes born 2 shit forced 2 wipe look like an articulate legislation proposal, as if having to live or god forbid having children is a moral equivalent to a violent gangrape. And the amount of times these child haters use the word pedophile to describe anyone who doesn't want to literally genocide anyone under 12 is borderline psychotic.

You can always kill yourself.
You can always use a condom.

"Non-consentual life" is the most retarded term I have ever been subjected to reading. The yet-to-be-conceived have no ability to consent to anything because they don't exist yet.

Pondering for a moment you can see how it parallels troonism:
"I didn't consent to being a [boy/girl], I want to be a [girl/boy/neither/rapist]."
They believe even God and nature are bound by contracts, like you can object to having to shit because you want to excrete caviar instead.
 
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I remember joking about hating kids but then I began meeting people like this and stopped joking about it since I want no association with them. Working with kids for a bit I got to appreciate how honest they are as well as their unique ways of looking at the world. And watching my niece grow has been nothing but a joy.
If your life is so pathetic that a stupid kid being a stupid kid can ruin it and make you rush to your keyboard to scream about how you never consented to be born, and how the world should never procreate then you have hit new levels of manbaby.

I ain't saying children can't ruin events. They absolutely can, but it being so much that you have to scream online is just such a pathetic level.
 
I can understand being childfree, but like, genuinely hating children and wishing every child you've ever seen was dead and genuinely hating people for wanting a family? I don't even think therapy is strong enough to handle this shit like I don't think there's any hope for these people. This is the most pathetic thing I have seen in a while. I'm impressed and disgusted with the depths humanity has sunken to where we are supposed to see this as a legitimate movement.
I wonder if the thread for /r/childfree and /r/antinatalism could be combined.
They both are weird groups that make not having kids the center of their identity and a moral focus of their lives. It's weird.
 
I can't believe the grand poobah of antinatalism has yet to get his own thread on the farms. His OG bovine pedigree includes equal parts lol and horror breeds. May I present to you Inmendham aka Gary Mosher, Youtube's original, terminally online, raging doomer coomer pseudophilosopher incel. Gary hasn't gone completely unnoticed by farmers over the years. Like PopOfColor, Gary was my first lolcow, What they say about lolcows is true - you never forget your first.




Like many back then, I first came across Gary during one of his many slapfights with fellow atheist lolcow TJ Kirk/The Amazing Atheist back in the late '00s.. One major source of Gary's bitterness and anger over the years is the fact TJ would go on to make it big on YT, while Gary's many channels languished into forgotten obscurity. Gary would also slapfight internet cockroach Brett Keane, as well as thunderfoot, and many, many others.

Gary has been on YT since at least 2008. Before that, Gary was one of those wacky weirdos who had his own local cable access TV show, Wayne's World style, from his cute cottage rental out in the quiet scenic countryside of Mendham, New Jersey, (hence the name Inmendam), so he could vent his bitter insanity into the analog void before internet bandwidth caught up.

Eventually in April 2019, after living in that little countryside oasis for around 30 years, rising property values finally caught up to his sorry ass and booted the welfare king from his subsidized country man cave and into a more deserving doomer incel habitat, the unfinished basement of some poor old woman's house. Since then he hasn't been able to rage or hoard broken junk at his preferred volume, which has put a damper on the poor guy's spirits. But don't worry, he is still able to enjoy acting out his narcissism and egomania online for the poor misguided retards that makeup the unironic portion of his audience. More on that shortly.

Back in the day, Gary thrived in the online wild west edgelord pwnage culture of the '00s and '10s, and his back catalog is unimaginably vast. We're talking daily, Chris Chan levels of content, for over 15 years at this point. Tens of thousands of hours on a dozen YouTube channels, in addition to his own website. The sheer volume alone is insane, not to mention the content. More than anything, Gary loved to rage back then. He seems to have mellowed out somewhat with age, and IIRC, had a rage-induced stroke some years back, which didn't do his coomer rotten brain any favors.

This raging manchild's extensive lore is truly deserving of his own thread, but I'll try to hit the high points here. I believe Gary is 64 at the time of this post. He has lived as a hermit his entire adult life. AFAIK, he has not been legally employed or had a tax-paying job for decades, cuz mentulz of course. He has survived on his tugboat since the 90s. Like many antinatalists, Gary is the rare true misanthrope, but he especially hates women and children, and has expressed his desire to kill women and children countless times over the years, often to hilarious effect. His first and only known victim is his twin sister whom he managed to kill in utero because that bitch was taking up his space. He has resented females ever since. I have never known him to have a girlfriend, but he claims to have had at least one IIRC. I think its safe to say its been well over a couple decades since he's been laid.

First and foremost, Gary is a compulsive contrarian and pessimist with very strong fatalistic tendencies prone to delusion. He simply can't help but turn every conversation into an argument and create opposition. As a superior intellect with outstanding cluster B qualities, Gary's genius beautiful mind was destined to become a trailblazing philosopher. The reason you don't understand him, mere simpleton, is because you can't. Clearly you don't possess the advanced thinking faculties of the enlightened antinatalist, or you wouldn't be arguing with him right now you asshole fuckface fucktard. Its not his fault you misinterpret his genius analysis for delusional vitriolic hubris.

Around 2010, Gary grew increasingly dissatisfied with the antinatalist label, as it failed to accurately describe his innovative genius thinking and superior moral position, which encompasses far more than just his stance on procreative ethics. Not content to be classified among the antinatalist pions, Gary was forced to set himself and his superior thinking apart from the crowd by creating his own fag philosophy which he calls Efilism, or "life" spelled backwards. Yes, its just that faggy.

Efilism, which is basically just a blackiplled vegan cult ripoff of negative utilitarianism, attracted the most militant doomer antinatalists to Gary like flies to shit. Among the early ranks was walking shit stain Adam Lanza, of Sandy Hook notoriety. You can tell in his response to the Lanza revelation (which I will try to track down), how proud it made Gary to learn of his star pupil. Aint no shame in Gary's game. Not even a drop.

THE POONER

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That's a woman!

Gary's most loyal, dedicated follower and admirer is a deathfat FTM femcel pooner named Amanda Sukenick aka Oldphan. Almost as mentally unstable as her beloved leader, the pooner is Gary's only trusted confidant and "friend." It is no exaggeration to say Sukenick is obsessed with Gary, or at least she was. So much so, she made a shitty short film about Gary called The Efilist in 2014, which landed her a guest spot on Tosh.0. And she spent hundreds of hours clay sculpting a diorama of Gary in his living room, in painstaking autistic detail.




I have a strong suspicion that the pooner is a virgin. She is definitely (and unsurprisingly) a lolcow herself - a classic, failure-to-launch-only-child autist with a massive Dragonball Z collection, who has lived with her mother every one of her 40 years on this planet. She has never held down a real job outside of part time college employment. Were it not for her enabling, coddling mother subsidizing the mentally disordered mess that is her daughter, there would probably be no efilism cult today. Last I heard, Sukenick was trying to scam her way into a doctoral program for the visual arts in Chicago, where she lives in government housing with her mother. Idk if anything ever came of that.

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Ever seen a vegan deathfat?

Due to her obsessive devotion and loyalty, Sukenick gradually became Gary's manager. She doesn't manage him in the sense she has any control over his behavior, but she became his mediator/apologist/administrative assistant to the outside world and his efilist followers. She is also his promoter and is capable of putting on a (somewhat) publicly presentable face to the world to make up for her leader's complete absence of social skills. I don't think Gary actually likes the pooner - his all encompassing misanthropy knows no bounds - but I think he does tolerate her and is grateful to have her to interface with the world on his behalf.

The pooner has also created some highly questionable content herself. If what she says is true, than she was most likely sexually abused as a young child, which would explain some things. She claims to be working on a sequel.



It is worth noting that the pooner had her own AN Youtube channel for many years, and then out of the clear blue, or so she claims, YT yanked her channel from the platform entirely in September 2021. It was there one day and gone the next. Sukenick was very cagey about why and the responses she got from appealing to the YT gods, who were apparently having none of it. But why her channel was really yanked is still a mystery to everyone but her.

The pooner is also the head mod at both r/antinatalism which has 208k members and r/efilism, at 6.3k members at the time of this post. She regularly patrols posts to protect her leader, gatekeeps and squashes any dissension among the redditards. She was also recently interviewed on major YT channel, Soft White Underbelly, which currently sits at 222k views. She also did (does?) a shitty AN podcast. There's a lot more to say about pooner Sukenick, as well as other Gary worshippers - I think she is a much more realistically dangerous person than Gary - but I'll leave that for another post.

LOLCOW RISING

Around some time in the early 2010s, Inmendham was bestowed the prestigious honor of an entry in the Encyclopedia Dramatica. Its old and dated, like everything over there these days, but it does offer a fun glimpse into the past. It is rather remarkable how little Gary has changed over the decades. He has always been an aggrieved injustice collector and his rhetoric had that insufferably pretentious SJW tone long before SJWs were a thing.

A-LOGS AND TROLLS

Like any proper lolcow, Gary has various a-logs, orbiters, trolls and an arch nemesis by the name of Steve Godfrey. Godfrey has archived Gary and kept autistically close watch over the years. Nobody gets under Gary's skin as much as Godfrey, and for good reason. Godfrey has continuously exposed and mocked Gary and his degenerate "philosophy" on YouTube and twitter for years. My personal favorite is the federal lolsuit saga.

Godfrey also appears to be the only antinatalist to continuously challenge Gary over the years. Gary has had his share of trolls and negative response videos, but his detractors usually come and go quickly, which is very typical for antinatalists. Due to the super intense level of his relentless negativity and vitriol, very few people can stand to be around Gary or his content for an extended period of time. The turnover rate among the online AN community, and especially the efilists, is very high. One of the reasons the pooner is Gary's only friend is because literally no other soul on this planet can put up with him and withstand his endless looping pessimism for long.

PEDOS, CHOMOS AND PORN OH MY!

A prominent feature of Gary's endless degeneracy is the near constant pedo allegations he makes about his detractors and any other glib dumbfuck asshole who dares disagree with him. Then there's the ongoing pedo apologia.








Oh and the amateur porn. Can't forget about that.





Like any narcissist, Gary loves to eye fuck himself in the camera. As a matter of fact, he'd fuck him.




SO MANY TALENTS

Being a multi-talented genius, much like but superior to the leaders of the Enlightenment, Gary is also a gifted visual artist in addition to his other talents.


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Also following in the tradition of grand Enlightenment thinkers like Newton and Leibniz, Gary is a cutting edge scientist specializing in The Physics.

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CALLING ALL PHYSICS FAGS!

In all seriousness, I have no idea when or how the physics lunacy began, and it is something to witness. I do believe Gary is so delusional and disconnected from reality that he is smelling his farts and getting high on his own supply of cosmic narcissism. He's been at the physics sperging for awhile, at least since the mid '10s.

Stephen Brough

Brough is a retired British electrical engineer living in the UK who uses his highest functioning autism to troll Inmendham and his understanding of the physics. And he has some respectable trolling skills. Brough is the best Inmendham palate cleanser I have come across. He has the right attitude, a cute toothless smile, and you can tell he is having a good ol time while debunking and laughing at Gary, despite constantly getting called a pedo. If you are even the least bit science or engineer minded, you will get chuckles watching Brough do his charming at-home experiments to debunk Gary's ridiculous claims about the physics.

My guess is Gary got bored after mastering the philosophical arts, and his genius brilliant mind needed another challenge after conquering the human domain. So it was only natural for Gary to turn his rogue genius mind to conquering the phenomena of the natural world. Currently, this is where Gary's many potential trolling possibilities are to be found. We're talking flat-earth-delusion-level trolling potential, especially for you science fags out there. I am but a lowly philosophy fag, trained only to battle ennui and wait tables.

These days Gary seems genuinely bored and demoralized since he is no longer living in the serene beauty of his quiet country cottage, nor is he getting the same high off his usual philosophically-flavored narc supply. But a cows gotta moo, so now we have The Physics. I know there is still a reservoir of untapped cow juice in ol Gary and he is yearning to be milked, which is why he wants and tries so desperately to get the public to interact with him. He needs to feel superior to someone to get his narc fix.

There is so much more worth mentioning - the cat killing, the holocaust denial, vegan sperging, his questionable literacy, the "benign rape" fallout, so many slapfights, his website, the grifting, the hoarding, the suicides, the turtles..... Maybe its the magic of the Christmas season, but I have faith that farmers can come together, grab a teat, and squeeze the last chance for this cow to shine before he sends himself to the slaughterhouse.

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Guess which yard is the hoarder's.


GARY MOSHER: 2152 Tyler Street, Union, New Jersey 07083

AMANDA SUKENICK: 1310 N Ritchie Court, Apt 6-C, Chicago, Illinois 60610
Telephone 312-404-6585


Inmendham's unsecured disaster of a website: https://www.donotgo.com/in/dog

Inmendham Channels


Amanda Sukenick/Oldphan YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@anti-natalwolf4449
Antinatalsim International: https://www.youtube.com/@antinatalisminternational4296
Exploring Antinatalism Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@theexploringantinatalismpo4465
Antinatalism International twitter: https://twitter.com/AntinatalismInt

Trolls & Archivers

Stephen Brough YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@stephenbrough8132
Steve Godfrey YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@efilism
Steve Godfrey Twitter: https://twitter.com/ThisIsEfilism
Bad Ethics: https://www.youtube.com/@badethics2831
Praminder Talks: https://www.youtube.com/@pramindertalks4617


Apologies for any missing links and lack of spoilers. I'm sure I'm missing a lot. There is so much content its overwhelming.
 
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On today's episode of Gary Rages:

Apparently Gary has stressed himself out yelling at the internet all day every day, and has developed a case of shingles.




This is the latest offering of fresh rage from his YouTube weekly-ish WTF Series, "'WTF #825: Robert Sapolsky on "they couldn't help being a pile of CRAP"" from 11-26-23




GARYCEPTION

Lets play a game! How many Garys are in this screenshot?

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Eight. There are 8 Garys in this screenshot. That's Gary reacting to Gary, not to be confused with the Gary far left. That's just a second camera making a mirror image of the far right Gary from the same the video. Plus few Garys on the side. Gary can never have too many Garys and often laments the world isn't made up solely of Garys, Being John Malkovich Style. But with Gary Moshers.

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Nobody reacts to Gary better than Gary. And in case that wasn't enough Gary on Gary action for you:

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Yes, that is his motherfucking eye that MOVES AROUND for several minutes before the proceeding screenshot of Garys.

He's been doing 3-in-1 Gary for years, but I never remember such a strong close up of his face before. :cringe:

Today's Rage Was Brought to You Buy:

Gary's disembodied voice yelling at you in a car
Banana peels on the sidewalk and banana peel throwers
Marketing prostitution
900 people who just weren't quite good enough
3 guys who do it the best
Simple logical equations
2+2 doesnt equal 3
Bizarrely perverse notions of reality
Glib people making BBQ jokes for yummie yums
Creatures enslaved to your existence
Jokes about torture and kittens n things
Complete motherfucking cunts
The voices in your head


Until next time. N such.
 
Why don't they kill themselves?

Oh they do.

Well known antinatalist/efilist YouTuber and podcaster Danny, of The Right To No Longer Exist, decided to exercise his right earlier this year.

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Why the regret though? Doesn't make much sense to campaign for something you regret or would regret others doing. If only they were capable of registering the cognitive dissonance.

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I wonder if LifeSucks realizes Danny aint feeling "free". Typical depressive conflating inability to feel with the positive feeling of freedom.

Efilist and YouTube creator Efil Blaise also caught the bus not long after being a guest on The Right To No Longer Exist podcast last year, but it appears he wasn't worth a half-assed instagram memorial post like his buddy Danny.

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He did at least get a mention on r/Efilism.

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I include that comment to show the reoccurring theme of associating death and non-existence with being "free from the sisyphean struggle of life."

There's a reason Camus said "The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy." But these people aren't really interested in understanding the nuances of absurdist philosophy as much as cherry quoting comforting platitudes to justify their nihilistic black pill fatalism.

Not long after being interviewed by pooner Sukenick on her Exploring Antinatalism podcast in July 2020, British musician Creep also caught the bus.

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Apparently his death did not merit mentioning by the pooner. She knows this isn't a good look for her philosophy and she already got what she wanted from the guy. At least some commenters had the decency to pay their respects, unlike the pooner.

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And finally there was the life and death of South Korean philosopher Jiwoon Hwang.

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Philosopher Jiwoon Hwang

Jiwoon has been the most high profile suicide. He was very involved in the antinatalist community, published a paper, wrote a book, gave public talks, and I personally engaged in good natured debate with him. I do not know the details of his death, but I do know that it was botched and he lingered for some time. It was clear to most who interacted with him that Jiwoon was a mentally troubled young man, but he was always kind, considerate, earnestly genuine and very thoughtful. He was profoundly dedicated to lessening suffering in the world and never waivered in his commitment or philosophical consistency. His fate was sealed when he fell into promortalism, which is antinatalist adjacent. To be clear, not all antinatalists are promortalist, and many antinatalists condemn promortalism. However misguided he became, Jiwoon was an incredibly intelligent and exceptionally compassionate man, and his suicide was a true tragedy.

May they all rest in peace.
 
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