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Has Chris ever been back to Manchester High? It's seems to be his Mecca so a pilgrimage makes sense for him.
If he ever did, we would see a Facebook rant about the staff kicking him out with Harshest Attitudes. Chris graduated a year after Columbine, so you can bet security's a lot tighter in regard to who gets in, and angry greasy manchildren don't make the cut.

Also, I don't think he treats Manchester High like he did any of his other former haunts. Whereas with the Game Place, where Chris seemed to harbor the delusion that it was frozen in 2007 and eagerly waiting his return, with Manchester, he's at least somewhat willing to admit that time has passed and things have changed. Hence, his "one-man" efforts to get a reunion of the ground.
 
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What really creeps me out about this pic is that he's trying for the butt-and-boobs pose... und succeeds. (Somehow)

Also, now I can't look at any pictures of naked girls doing this pose without thinking very unerotic thoughts :(

We know that CWC used to believe in Santa for an unusually long time... for calendarical reasons I'm kinda curious about his stance on the Easter Bunny? Do we have info on that?
 
Ignoring content, this is still some of his best work.
"Ignoring what happened to my husband during the performance, I found the play to be quite well-staged." Mrs. Lincoln

We know that CWC used to believe in Santa for an unusually long time... for calendarical reasons I'm kinda curious about his stance on the Easter Bunny? Do we have info on that?
I think Chris kept believing in Santa because he brought him free vidya, and he hoped he would bring him a girlfriend. Assuming Borb even ever took the effort to hide eggs for Chris, there's would be less use in continuing to convince himself that the Easter Bunny existed because candy is pretty inexpensive.
 
Has Chris ever been back to Manchester High? It's seems to be his Mecca so a pilgrimage makes sense for him.
Nah, his Mecca is over in China, if you know what I mean. He knows that the gal-pals aren't there anymore for him to bang, because they all left in the same graduation as him. Whereas the Eye of Judgement cards are still there in the PLACe waiting for Chris.
I do wonder if Chris thought Megan, Mimms, etc were all still hanging out there up till it closed.
 
JuniorJenkies camp story

This entire thing just makes me shake my head in wonderment. He goes into strange detail regarding underage sodomy and then concludes with, "I was not thrilled by the ordeal," with all the emotion of somebody who dropped their newspaper in a mud puddle while getting it out of the driveway.

"Ah, man. Goddammit. My fucking paper. Also, I got raped in the butt. Shit."
 
This entire thing just makes me shake my head in wonderment. He goes into strange detail regarding underage sodomy and then concludes with, "I was not thrilled by the ordeal," with all the emotion of somebody who dropped their newspaper in a mud puddle while getting it out of the driveway.
Chris said:
Michael Jackson was okay, although I did not care for his skin-color change and the molestations.
(http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Mailbag_14#Pictures_of_women_in_bikinis..._right...)
 
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I think Chris kept believing in Santa because he brought him free vidya, and he hoped he would bring him a girlfriend. Assuming Borb even ever took the effort to hide eggs for Chris, there's would be less use in continuing to convince himself that the Easter Bunny existed because candy is pretty inexpensive.

My thoughts exactly. I'd bet that if the Easter Bunny was known for giving free gifts and not just candy Chris would still half believe in him, on the off chance that he turned out to be real.

And could you imagine an Easter egg hunt in the Horde, or in their unkept yard? Besides, that would require some effort in finding the eggs to get the reward. Borb probably just gave him one of those doofy chocolate rabbits sans Easter basket and that was the extent of it.
 
If Chris had taken meds, would he be less delusional and more sane? I mean, he's not schizophrenic like Jace is, but Chris seems to have had this thing where CWCville was indeed a real place and not a happy place in his imagination where he's thin, cool, and hanging out with Sonichu.
 
What would he be taking meds for? He's not schizo and he's not insane, just delusional from years of never having to face reality combined with good old fashioned stupidity.

Now if you're talking heart meds on the other hand, then yes, he would be better off.
 
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Nah, his Mecca is over in China, if you know what I mean. He knows that the gal-pals aren't there anymore for him to bang, because they all left in the same graduation as him. Whereas the Eye of Judgement cards are still there in the PLACe waiting for Chris.
I do wonder if Chris thought Megan, Mimms, etc were all still hanging out there up till it closed.

But he did see the gal-pals, like any other people except his parents, as interchangeable. I don't think it would be out of character for him to have used Manchester High as an attraction location (expressing his willingness to wait for china if the girl was under 18, of course).

I think the only thing that saved it was the distance it was from Ruckersville. Chris loneliness and horniness is surpassed by his laziness.
 
But he did see the gal-pals, like any other people except his parents, as interchangeable.
I think he did specifically want one of the gal-pals though, as opposed to any random high school china. Remember his Facebook whines about "I have to find Tiffany Gowen"? Plus, the only time he ever tried to get involved with high school again was for reunions with his own class. I'm sure he'd be equally willing to bang any of his hired friends, but I think it does have to be someone he already knew. Meeting new people is hard and socially uncomfortable.
 
If Chris had taken meds, would he be less delusional and more sane?
He's not insane.

I mean, he's not schizophrenic like Jace is, but Chris seems to have had this thing where CWCville was indeed a real place and not a happy place in his imagination where he's thin, cool, and hanging out with Sonichu.
No, that's on par with a religious belief.

But he did see the gal-pals, like any other people except his parents, as interchangeable. I don't think it would be out of character for him to have used Manchester High as an attraction location (expressing his willingness to wait for china if the girl was under 18, of course).

I think the only thing that saved it was the distance it was from Ruckersville. Chris loneliness and horniness is surpassed by his laziness.
Chris thinks that girls in high school are under 18 or otherwise inaccessible.
 
I wonder if Chris has made any thought on the reunion at all since the fire? Knowing that the fire pretty much stopped the "reality check" saga*, I'd be curious if the idea is completely dead to Chris or not.


*for lack of a better descriptor
 
I think Chris kept believing in Santa because he brought him free vidya, and he hoped he would bring him a girlfriend. Assuming Borb even ever took the effort to hide eggs for Chris, there's would be less use in continuing to convince himself that the Easter Bunny existed because candy is pretty inexpensive.

A friend of mine's niece is autistic and believed in Santa until age 16. Apparently she trusted her parents' word to the letter, and they had assured her over and over that Santa was real, in her mind.

She also received an academic scholarship to a very good university. I understand that these two things are not implicitly contradictory when you're dealing with someone with autism, but it's still unfathomable to me. I can believe it because I see it, I can trust it because I've heard of it before, but I still can't understand it.
 
A friend of mine's niece is autistic and believed in Santa until age 16. Apparently she trusted her parents' word to the letter, and they had assured her over and over that Santa was real, in her mind.

She also received an academic scholarship to a very good university. I understand that these two things are not implicitly contradictory when you're dealing with someone with autism, but it's still unfathomable to me. I can believe it because I see it, I can trust it because I've heard of it before, but I still can't understand it.
It's not even a matter of autism. Replace santa with a major religious deity, and you've got exactly the same thing with a large chunk of all people in higher education.
 
Has Chris ever been back to Manchester High? It's seems to be his Mecca so a pilgrimage makes sense for him.

Actually, speaking of Makkah, I know Chris has hinted at bigotry towards Muslims. It does make me wonder what it would be like for him to travel abroad, particularly to a country where Christians, whites and/or English speakers are in the minority. Aside from not wanting to date a black girl, I'm not really sure how racist he is. Much of it seems to come from his father and parroting back crude stereotypes he's learned from TV shows, but I think it would be interesting (and good) for him to be taken from his comfort zone.

His approach to religion is especially interesting. He seems to accept it more because he was raised in it and its at least nominally considered the norm in the culture he was raised within. From what he's written in his comics, he doesn't seem to realize not everyone celebrates Christmas, and his conversations with Vivian Gee reveal an astonishing ignorance on Atheism and Taosim. I wonder how he'd react in someplace like Saudi Arabia, Japan, India, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey, Thailand, Israel, Sri Lanka, Mali, Senegal, Cambodia or the like. Would he be surprised to find different cultural norms? Would it make him more open minded?

but Chris seems to have had this thing where CWCville was indeed a real place and not a happy place in his imagination where he's thin, cool, and hanging out with Sonichu.

Well, as Marvin said, its similar to religion. Of course, most religions either have centuries of worth of texts (for world religions like Christianity, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Bahá’í and Sikhism), oral traditions (most tribal and ethnic religions; also Santería and other Afro-Caribbean religions) or both (Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and Shinto). Also, not all religions necessarily posit belief in a deity (Taoism for instance, as well as some schools of Hinduism), or they may have gods but not really care about them (Buddhism), and some religions like Wicca, certain schools of Hinduism and even mystical traditions in Islam and Christianity are pantheistic, not necessarily believing in a literal god. Other Hindu schools, as well as the former Roman and Arab pagan religions, consider ritual more important than belief.

The biggest difference between Chris' fantasy world and religion is, regardless of your own personal views on the subject, virtually all religions foster a sense of community amongst their believers. Even the most hardcore Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses and Wahhabis still interact with other human beings, even if its only a narrow circle and their behaviours are heavily prescribed by the dictates of their faith. Chris doesn't even have that. For him, its not even about creativity, its about retreating into a private fantasy world. Much like a child's imaginary friend, I'm curious as to how much he actually believes he is talking to (or channeling) Sonichu. Does he actually hallucinate it? Or is it simply a justification for social faux pas after the fact?

Interestingly enough, Chris-Chan isn't alone in believing that fictional characters exist in some sort of magical, parallel universe. I'd be lying if I said it was normal, but other, more intelligent people have been able to express said belief with considerably more eloquence. I suspect most people on these forums are familiar enough with "Otherkin," as well as furries and their "fursonas." What you may not know is that there are also Otakukin, which are basically the same thing, but they believe/claim they are anime characters. And yes, its just as retarded as it sounds. Go ahead and Google them if you want to go deeper down that rabbit hole of insanity. The sad thing is that even they seem to have more socialization than Chris.

Of course, you'd think that it would at least be easier to disprove the existence of cartoon and comic book characters, since they are mostly of recent vintage and you could always go and just ask their bloody creator (or their writer, or the person who holds their IP rights, etc). But then, there are also some creators who seem to hold the same delusions as Chris. Most famously, Alan Moore claimed to have encountered John Constantine (a regular poster on these very forums no less! ;)) in a London sandwich bar. Of course, that's just Alan Moore. If you aren't familiar with his antics, go Google him too. On the other hand, Alvin Schwartz believed he encountered a tulpa (a Tibetan term appropriated by New Agers for "imaginary" beings) of Superman, while Neil Gaiman is said to have met a real-life version of Death (though considering how popular Sandman was with all the Goth girls back when I was in school, I should imagine there were quite a few women who looked like Death running around back in the day).

Then again, all of those people are successful comic book creators with solid careers they've built up over the years. Chris... isn't. We can't exactly chalk it up to the infamous "artistic temperament" either, though I suspect we might be able to get away with calling it an "autistic temperament." *sigh*

I think he did specifically want one of the gal-pals though, as opposed to any random high school china. Remember his Facebook whines about "I have to find Tiffany Gowen"? Plus, the only time he ever tried to get involved with high school again was for reunions with his own class. I'm sure he'd be equally willing to bang any of his hired friends, but I think it does have to be someone he already knew. Meeting new people is hard and socially uncomfortable.

Quite possibly. He seems to attach a disproportionate amount of significance to his time in high school. Granted, American pop culture does tend to glorify high school, but I think its that he's still obsessessed to his various 'gal pals' from that period of his life. Given his self-proclaimed shyness, it wouldn't be surprising if he's been trying to get Tiffany or one of the other girls he knew back then to come back to him. Didn't he fixate on Sarah Hammer for a long time as well? God, I honestly hope he doesn't start trying to track down these poor women.
 
It's not even a matter of autism. Replace santa with a major religious deity, and you've got exactly the same thing with a large chunk of all people in higher education.
Ha, yeah, but Santa is universally disbelieved by adults. Like when you come of age everyone acknowledges that, "Yeah, that was all just a :ruse: but it's fun for the kids." There's no similar common understanding about God or whatever.

Although there is the saying that, "God is Santa Claus for adults," but that's kind of a different meaning than what we are applying to :stupid:, I think.

Is there any truth to the rumor that Chris has taken like a fish to water to his new circumstance? Having a respite from 14 B, not surrounded by filth, etc.? Allegedly stealing from Best Buy notwithstanding...
 
Ha, yeah, but Santa is universally disbelieved by adults. Like when you come of age everyone acknowledges that, "Yeah, that was all just a :ruse: but it's fun for the kids." There's no similar common understanding about God or whatever.

Although there is the saying that, "God is Santa Claus for adults," but that's kind of a different meaning than what we are applying to :stupid:, I think.
The social aspects of believing in santa vs god aren't huge factors for changing someone's beliefs.* They just make you feel bad that you believe in santa/god. Maybe being exposed to new ideas might prompt you to investigate, and develop new views, but I think that's just like being exposed to new cultures in general. (Or, for some believers, it might drive you deeper into your beliefs, because of the evil outsiders persecuting you, or some shit)

*Especially for autists, but still works for normal people

Ultimately, I was just bringing up an example of a belief that was handed down to you by your parents and you accepted it as a child, despite it being silly and clashing with modern science, and believing it for your whole life.

Aside from not wanting to date a black girl, I'm not really sure how racist he is.
Fatty's not a racist, it's just everyone against himself.

His approach to religion is especially interesting. He seems to accept it more because he was raised in it and its at least nominally considered the norm in the culture he was raised within. From what he's written in his comics, he doesn't seem to realize not everyone celebrates Christmas, and his conversations with Vivian Gee reveal an astonishing ignorance on Atheism and Taosim. I wonder how he'd react in someplace like Saudi Arabia, Japan, India, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey, Thailand, Israel, Sri Lanka, Mali, Senegal, Cambodia or the like. Would he be surprised to find different cultural norms? Would it make him more open minded?
Hmm? Have you seen the Sonichu and Rosechu Christmas Story? No, Chris is aware that people different to him exist. That's how it is every day. Again, it's everyone against Chris. Him being in a foreign country wouldn't be any different than where he is now. Well, aside from practical concerns, of course.


Much like a child's imaginary friend, I'm curious as to how much he actually believes he is talking to (or channeling) Sonichu. Does he actually hallucinate it? Or is it simply a justification for social faux pas after the fact?
No, Chris isn't physically seeing sonichu appear before his eyes. What's happening is that Chris is confusing an inner monologue, his thoughts about talking to sonichu, with sonichu actually being real.

Quite possibly. He seems to attach a disproportionate amount of significance to his time in high school. Granted, American pop culture does tend to glorify high school, but I think its that he's still obsessessed to his various 'gal pals' from that period of his life. Given his self-proclaimed shyness, it wouldn't be surprising if he's been trying to get Tiffany or one of the other girls he knew back then to come back to him. Didn't he fixate on Sarah Hammer for a long time as well? God, I honestly hope he doesn't start trying to track down these poor women.
No, Chris barely cares that much. Chris is trying to find a girlfriend. If he approached a girl on the street, he'd have to introduce himself, get a date and gradually build her up into a replacement mommy. The galpals from high school are saving him few steps, so he thinks it's a lot better bet than finding his own girlfriend. If they all told him they were lesbians, his interest would drop dramatically.
 
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