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feedtheoctopus said:
Older I get and the more of this slow motion trainwreck I witness, I can't help but feel a lot of sympathy for Chris. Especially in the past year or so. I'm a lot less socially maladjusted than I was in high school and (to a lesser extent) college. I can't really find much humor in Chris's self destruction and mental instability anymore. Granted, Sonichu is still darkly humorous in a way I can't quite pin down, but Chris himself? It's just sad.

Like you said, this guy was kind of fucked from the get go for a whole mess of reasons. He developed into a complete shutin with only the internet and imaginary friends to keep him company, and the isolation seriously fucked him up. Nobody was helping Chris adjust to adult life, or even high school life. People wrote him off and left him to his own devices. At best they pinned all of his issues on his autism. And while the autism made all of this far worse, leaving him to rot inside of his own head fucked him up even more.

I look at the earlier videos of Chris, and while he was weird and kind of creepy, he also could have gotten better. He could've figured out a way to come out of his shell in a healthy fashion and forge some modicum of happiness. That's gone. And the results just keep getting more and more tragic.
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Chris did all of that to himself. He had plenty of people who would have been willing to help him adjust and have given an honest effort to tolerate his bullshit. How did he treat Megan? How did he treat Snyder? How did he treat Rocky? The PVCC? Wendy's? He did all of that after he was well over 18. Don't say "Nobody was helping Chris adjust." Chris actively drove them away, including someone mentally prepared to deal with his issues like Rocky.

You seem to have forgotten that, beneath his autism, he is an asshole. Too many people assume those 2 conditions are mutually exclusive when they can in fact coexist within one person.

You've seen him be an asshole. He's shamelessly lied how many times attempting to get what he wants? Being retarded and consequently bad at being a bad person is the only thing keeping him from exploiting more people. Being an asshole inclined him to exploit his autism to take advantage of everyone around him, instead of opting to cope with the condition like a GOOD person would.
 
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Marvin said:
Chris does accept transwomen as women. Having sex with a woman with a penis is a specific sex act, and not wishing to participate in it doesn't change whether or not you regard transwomen as actual women.

Chris has definitely been sympathetic of tranny people's problems in the past. He also spent time with transwomen or drag queens at impulse.
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Here you go speaking for Chris again.

Chris doesn't even know what a woman is! Jesus.

He doesn't know what trannies are either.

He's fucking retarded!
 
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SOINCHU said:
I know autism and all but this is almost an unbelievable level of stupidity. He knows straight women are only attracted to men, he is saying he is NOT a man. Even through the most powerful autism I can't imagine he's so stupid as to not grasp that even a little bit.

Does this also play into him not being able to believe that straight women like masculinity? Like does he think "Sure they like ducks, but no one actually likes men, how could they? I (Christine) therefore am PERFECT for straight women as I am a sweet, understanding, and pretty girl but have the duck they crave!"
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Lesbians aren't going to want him either. Because he still has a penis. And I assume he is trying to attract lesbians as well, what with the whole "Lesbian sleep over party".

The delicious irony of the situation is that Chris has made himself unappealing to everyone HE is interested in. He wants a woman, and a woman only. I don't know what caused him to decide he himself wanted to be a girl, but I'm pretty sure in his mind, he imagined this tranny phase of his opened a bunch of new doors. Lesbian women were off the table before, but in his mind, now they're a possibility because he's "Christine". I doubt he even once stopped to consider that that horrible bent appendage between his legs instantly disqualifies him from the lesbian dating pool.

And sure, maybe there's some straight women out there that would tolerate a guy who was "a woman on the inside". But that guy is gonna have to be a pretty great guy otherwise for a regular straight women to be able to come to terms with that. Chris has nothing else going for him that helps him. He doesn't have the looks, OR a great personality. Nor does he have the money to attract a gold digger who would overlook his eccentricities because of his cash.
 
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Marvin said:
Chris does accept transwomen as women. Having sex with a woman with a penis is a specific sex act, and not wishing to participate in it doesn't change whether or not you regard transwomen as actual women.

Chris has definitely been sympathetic of tranny people's problems in the past. He also spent time with transwomen or drag queens at impulse.
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Yeah you're definitely giving Chris too much credit here. It's not a bad thing that you are, but giving a re'tard like him as much credit as you do is almost like validating him as a non-lolcow.

Chris is a selfish dogturd. It doesn't matter what's going on with other trannies because as far as he's concerned, other trannies are irrelevant. HE is the TRUE and HONEST tranny in his blurry eyes and that's really are there is to it.
 
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AnOminous said:
Here you go speaking for Chris again.

Chris doesn't even know what a woman is! Jesus.

He doesn't know what trannies are either.

He's fucking retarded!
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animedad said:
Yeah you're definitely giving Chris too much credit here. It's not a bad thing that you are, but giving a re'tard like him as much credit as you do is almost like validating him as a non-lolcow.

Chris is a selfish dogturd. It doesn't matter what's going on with other trannies because as far as he's concerned, other trannies are irrelevant. HE is the TRUE and HONEST tranny in his blurry eyes and that's really are there is to it.
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If you look at the context, I was addressing the argument that "Chris doesn't want to bang trannies, but he wants people to bang him, therefore he's a hypocrite". As I pointed out, that's not a good argument.

@AnOminous is right though, Chris doesn't know what a woman nor a tranny is. My post makes more sense with scare quotes around women and transwomen. Or with the asterisk saying "... as well as he can know what a woman is, anyway".

Chris knows enough, based on what wikipedia has told him and whatever he learned at Impulse, to know that if he wants to be called a woman, he's gotta call other transwomen women. Since it's no skin off his ass (it's not like he's got to bang them or anything) he goes and does it. If you interpreted my post to mean that Chris has a masters in gender studies, and a deep, emotional understanding of womankind and trans issues, then I apologize. I did not mean to give that impression. Chris is not capable of having a deep, emotional understanding of anything. He poops his pants.

I wouldn't say other trannies are irrelevant to Chris. They're people he can sperg with concerning his new hobby. For example, rumor has it, Chris was really interested in doing a drag show at one point. Of course, like all people (he doesn't want to bang), he'll be the first to toss them out if they become an issue (or otherwise boring to Chris).
 
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Marvin said:
Chris has bottom tier standards for women.
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well he won't date autistic women who can't support him, which is ironically all he'd (maybe) qualify for.
Galvatron said:
Lesbians aren't going to want him either. Because he still has a penis.
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even if he gets a sex change women still won't want him and see him as a male. And even if they're into males they won't want him cuz he's a bottom tier beta male.

Somari1996 said:
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/05/04/rumour-sonic-could-be-on-the-way-to-lego-dimensions/
Looks like fatty might have more junk to waste money on soon.
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hopefully its blue arms sonic to cause him "stress"
 
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Has Chris seen Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? His favorite movie is Mary Poppins so it seems like he would like that movie (both of them star Dick Van Dyke and have music that was written by the Sherman brothers)
 
Subconcious Offense said:
You seem to have forgotten that, beneath his autism, he is an asshole.
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I'm not going to pretend Chris is some sort of stellar example of ethics. He isn't. He is indeed an asshole in a lot of ways. He's also extremely isolated on an interpersonal level and autistic. The latter isn't an excuse for that picture of Megan or any of that shit, but it helps explain why he often doesn't understand the impact of his actions and learn from them. That and more I look at him, more I realize Chris is severely mentally ill in ways that far surpass autism. And he has been for a very long time. And that's what I mean when I say people just wrote his issues off as autism. Nobody in Chris's life really tried to understand what was happening here, at least not in the beginning when all this shit could have been stopped at the root. It doesn't help that his home life has always been extremely fucked up and dysfunctional. I don't think you can look at a Borb and come to the conclusion that they're stable and well adjusted individuals. They aren't. They were/are paranoid, resentful, and selfish people. On top of that they also, from an outsiders perspective, had no fucking idea how to deal with their kid. They coddled him and otherwise ignored his issues.

Only person in Chris's life who truly seemed to realize that this person needed actual guidance and help was Rocky. And by the time she came into Chris's life there was no slamming the breaks. At best she was damage control.

The internet, for its part, found this person and then played off his faults and in the process exacerbated them. Chris certainly went along with it, but he is also a person who doesn't understand basic social interaction and niceties and who's grasp on reality had been fraying continually since high school.

I also, to be honest, get the impression that on one level or another Chris legitimately hates himself and wants to suffer. Even a complete idiot who burns himself on a stove knows not to put his hand back on it and expect a different result. One reason I wasn't surprised when he came out as trans . He obviously was dealing with a lot shit in regards to his sexuality and gender identity beforehand. All he knew was that being a homo is bad and Jesus doesn't like them.

Chris was pretty fucked from the get go, but his own faults certainly are an ingredient in how he ended up like this. At any rate saying "he deserves it" is just cognitive dissonance. I don't think anybody deserves to live the existence Chris does. We're talking about a life of uninterrupted loneliness, humiliation, and self loathing here. Chris is a prick, but there's a lot of reasons he turned into one.
 
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Marvin said:
He says that, but it didn't stop him from trying...
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I know people say "He would never try to date someone with autsim" but that really is overestimating his ability to spot that. Unless it's a severe case I guarantee they would just have to tell him they aren't and he'd believe it. Probably goes for most things as long as he finds them attractive.
 
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feedtheoctopus said:
I also, to be honest, get the impression that on one level or another Chris legitimately hates himself and wants to suffer. Even a complete idiot who burns himself on a stove knows not to put his hand back on it and expect a different result.
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When you talk about Chris burning himself, to what are you referring to?
feedtheoctopus said:
He obviously was dealing with a lot shit in regards to his sexuality and gender identity beforehand. All he knew was that being a homo is bad and Jesus doesn't like them.
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Before the trolling Chris didn't really have substantial issues with his sexuality. There were some issues, but I think they more took the form of neurotic worrying on Chris' part, instead of actual homosexual tendencies.

Also, I think the religious angle people bring up isn't really that grounded in things we actually know about Chris. I think that's more people relying on stereotypes. In a similar way, people also talk about Chris like he's some sort of a deep south yokel, when he actually grew up in Richmond suburbs and Charlottesville. These places don't really conjure up images of banjos and moonshine, to me at least.
DrChristianTroy said:
I know people say "He would never try to date someone with autsim" but that really is overestimating his ability to spot that. Unless it's a severe case I guarantee they would just have to tell him they aren't and he'd believe it. Probably goes for most things as long as he finds them attractive.
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Oh yeah. Well, even if they told him they did have autism or aspergers, I think it'd be difficult for Chris to have an opportunity on hand, only to reject it because of the autism. It might be basically too late for him. Particularly if they had gone on a "date" like he did with the wallflower.
 
feedtheoctopus said:
The internet, for its part, found this person and then played off his faults and in the process exacerbated them. Chris certainly went along with it, but he is also a person who doesn't understand basic social interaction and niceties and who's grasp on reality had been fraying continually since high school.
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But he DOES understand. You see that when he puts on his best behavior during the recent begging videos. The fact that he put on an act proves he is aware his normal behavior is socially unacceptable.

He actively chooses to treat everyone around him like shit whenever he doesn't need anything from them. That's a choice he makes, not anybody else in his life.
 
Marvin said:
When you talk about Chris burning himself, to what are you referring to?

Before the trolling Chris didn't really have substantial issues with his sexuality. There were some issues, but I think they more took the form of neurotic worrying on Chris' part, instead of actual homosexual tendencies. .
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Most of the truly weird shit we know about Chris and have seen him do is stuff that Chris put out there himself. Trolls goad him along, but at the end of the day it's Chris drawing a picture of him fingering his friend and uploading it.

As for his sexual issues, it was kind of obvious from day one personally that Chris was kind of obsessed with sex in general and often went through insane lengths to try to "prove" he was straight. His family as far as I can tell isn't that much more religious than your typical Virginian, but they obviously go to church every week (or at least used to) and they ain't exactly progressive. Chris obviously doesn't grasp the intricacies of Christian theology, but I doubt the general message was lost on him. Doesn't help that he grew up in the midst of the culture war bullshit where the basic trend in conservative society was "LGBT people are literally hitler". At any rate it doesn't take a genius to realize Chris has some seriously bizarre sexual hangups.

Subconcious Offense said:
But he DOES understand. You see that when he puts on his best behavior during the recent begging videos. The fact that he put on an act proves he is aware his normal behavior is socially unacceptable.

He actively chooses to treat everyone around him like shit whenever he doesn't need anything from them. That's a choice he makes, not anybody else in his life.
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Is he on his "best behavior" during begging videos? He's begging for money. He begged for a PS4 also. His goal was to ask people for money. He did that. Just because Chris can be a prick doesn't mean he is constantly in rage mode.


He does indeed choose this shit, but the thing you gotta realize about Chris is that his brain doesn't work like yours or mine does. We're not talking about a rational human being, we're talking about somebody clearly dealing with severe mental illness and disability. To a truly large extent chris just flat out doesn't understand that his actions have consequences beyond his control. At the very least his impulse control might as well be nonexistent.

This isn't some sort of calm, collected, individual here. We're talking about a guy who literally shits himself on the reg and who preserves his semen in his freezer. A guy who used to stare at a sailor moon poster as a way of overcoming his latent homosexual tendencies and who seemingly thinks Sonichu is an actual being that he can contact.

tl;dr: The boy ain't right
 
feedtheoctopus said:
Is he on his "best behavior" during begging videos? He's begging for money. He begged for a PS4 also. His goal was to ask people for money. He did that. Just because Chris can be a prick doesn't mean he is constantly in rage mode.
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Of course he is. The begging videos are not the only examples either. He remained adequately humble and polite during the call with Kacey's "father" despite having his lies constantly exposed. The entire call shows he is fully aware of what constitutes as socially accepted behaviors and reactions, and that he can achieve it if he so chooses, and he is aware that people may like him more if he behaved that way. I think you are giving his intellect too little credit.
 
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