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If barb ever needs money she could always whore herself out to weens.
"Be like chris!" "original barbussy!" "only slightly used"
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I'm under the impression that since deferred disposition is intended for "special" cases, the court has a lot more leeway in setting special terms and requirements on the probation. It's for cases where the normal criminal proceedings simply don't apply or don't work. Chris is a problem to be solved, not a case to be punished.
I dunno, maybe I'm being a bit of an A-Log here but these kind of things bother me, it sometimes feels like justice systems care more about criminals than they do victims.

But I guess I don't know all the details of this case, maybe it was some kind of disgusting consensual incest and not the worst case scenario of Chris raping his dementia ridden mother.
 
I dunno, maybe I'm being a bit of an A-Log here but these kind of things bother me, it sometimes feels like justice systems care more about criminals than they do victims.

But I guess I don't know all the details of this case, maybe it was some kind of disgusting consensual incest and not the worst case scenario of Chris raping his dementia ridden mother.
No, it's liberalism and hedonism gone wild. There's no doubt in my mind that Barb resisted, Chris admitted she said no. I doubt she has the cognitive function to indulge in a rape fantasy.

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it sometimes feels like justice systems care more about criminals than they do victims.

Justice systems MUST care more about defendants than victims because not every defendant is actually a criminal.

That's not to say Chris isn't a criminal. He's guilty as fuck, but punishing him would be ineffective and expensive. Let him pay for his tard management out of his own tugboat. Why should the Virginia taxpayer be punished for Chris' crimes?
 
Justice systems MUST care more about defendants than victims because not every defendant is actually a criminal.

That's not to say Chris isn't a criminal. He's guilty as fuck, but punishing him would be ineffective and expensive. Let him pay for his tard management out of his own tugboat. Why should the Virginia taxpayer be punished for Chris' crimes?
I agree about assumed innocence in justice and all that and was meaning actual criminals being treated with kid gloves.

Again I’m obviously not aware of what actually occurred or what the result will be but from what I can tell Chris should at least be on a sex offender register so people are aware of his past sexual crimes so they don’t leave him alone with any vulnerable women for example.
 
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His tugboat is taxpayer money!

But not Virginia taxpayer money. It's federal.

Everyone gets punished for Chris' crimes. I can't see Virginia volunteering for sole financial responsibility there, which would happen if the state imprisoned Chris.


I agree about assumed innocence in justice and all that and was meaning actual criminals being treated with kid gloves.

Here's the thing about that: the purpose of justice is not to punish criminals or make them "pay" for their crimes. How could a murderer ever repay his victims or their families? What's done is done. No, the actual purpose is to try to prevent more such crimes in the future. Sometimes that means making an example of criminals to deter other potential criminals. Sometimes that means locking up the criminal so he can't re-offend while contained. Sometimes that even means rehabilitation so the criminal won't re-offend even when released.

Most of that can't actually apply to Chris, though. You don't need to make an example of him, because who the fuck would want to be him or do what he's done? He will NEVER be rehabilitated. The best you can do is contain him, and if you can do that at his own expense, why wouldn't you>

Also sending Chris to a tard depository might seem like the soft option compared to prison, but Chris will likely hate it far, far more.
 
That's not to say Chris isn't a criminal. He's guilty as fuck, but punishing him would be ineffective and expensive. Let him pay for his tard management out of his own tugboat. Why should the Virginia taxpayer be punished for Chris' crimes?
They're already being punished for his mere existence, at least that way they won't be punished any more for his motherfucking than they were already.
 
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Do you guys think people tried to warn Bob and Barb they were too old to have kids? Barb was 40 when she gave birth to Chris and Bob was 54. Someone had to have brought up that Bob was going to be geriatric before Chris reached adulthood. I know Chris was unplanned and two old southerners aren't going to abort their child but someone had to have said something to them.
 
They're already being punished for his mere existence,

And yet they continue to feed him.


Do you guys think people tried to warn Bob and Barb they were too old to have kids?

I suspect all of Borb's acquaintances (not friends) were uncaring barflies like themselves. The family strikes me as very socially isolated even before Chris was born (Bob's church ties notwithstanding).
 
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Here's the thing about that: the purpose of justice is not to punish criminals or make them "pay" for their crimes. How could a murderer ever repay his victims or their families? What's done is done. No, the actual purpose is to try to prevent more such crimes in the future. Sometimes that means making an example of criminals to deter other potential criminals. Sometimes that means locking up the criminal so he can't re-offend while contained. Sometimes that even means rehabilitation so the criminal won't re-offend even when released.

Most of that can't actually apply to Chris, though. You don't need to make an example of him, because who the fuck would want to be him or do what he's done? He will NEVER be rehabilitated. The best you can do is contain him, and if you can do that at his own expense, why wouldn't you>

Also sending Chris to a tard depository might seem like the soft option compared to prison, but Chris will likely hate it far, far more.
I guess law and justice is a complicated thing, don’t agree law should exclude retributive punishment otherwise you’ll just get sociopaths crying crocodile tears in court about ‘Muh trauma/socioeconomic status/whatever’ and get a slap on the wrist if they’ve got a good enough lawyer, I can see why in vigilantism is a thing and local communities just keep quiet about it in extreme cases although rehabilitation is obviously an important part of justice.

But anyway with Chris I agree there’s not much you can do, I mentioned him being on a sex offenders register so others could be aware of his criminal history but maybe that’s already happened, I guess he’s high profile enough most people can easily find out.

I don’t know what’s happening with Chris right or what restrictions he might get but my main concern is any placement is a temporary measure and eventually he’ll get out and get in legal trouble again.
 
Does Chris like Jail? If he had markers I think he’d be content for the rest of his life.
 
don’t agree law should exclude retributive punishment

Retribution might make people feel good, but what does it actually accomplish?

otherwise you’ll just get sociopaths crying crocodile tears in court about ‘Muh trauma/socioeconomic status/whatever’ and get a slap on the wrist if they’ve got a good enough lawyer,

That doesn't follow. You're forgetting exemplary punishment, the purpose of which is to show other would-be criminals what awaits them should they also offend. The punishment might be the same, but the purpose of the punishment is different. in fact exemplary punishment is less likely to consider mitigating factors (or crocodile tears) because letting offenders off sets a bad example.

But anyway with Chris I agree there’s not much you can do, I mentioned him being on a sex offenders register so others could be aware of his criminal history but maybe that’s already happened, I guess he’s high profile enough most people can easily find out.

Honestly, putting Chris on the SOR (which he won't be with the current charge) is probably entirely unnecessary at this point. Googling his name already reveals more than enough to warn off sensible people, and anyone who doesn't google him is unlikely to check the SOR either.

I don’t know what’s happening with Chris right or what restrictions he might get but my main concern is any placement is a temporary measure and eventually he’ll get out and get in legal trouble again.

He's guaranteed to fuck up again. And again. And again. The rest of his life will likely be a cycle of hospitalization, incarceration, and the streets. However, unless he has access to another feeble octogenarian to victimize, Chris is far more likely to harm himself the next time he fucks up.
 
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