Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

Right; saying it was to kill someone is jumping to conclusions. It could have been something like Chris wanting Null to get someone in trouble by issuing a false report, or selling unseasoned Eurobonds in the US.

Knowing how Chris is nowadays, I'm willing to consider that it was something financial. Some kind of scam.

 

[TheElusiveMander]

Knowing how Chris is nowadays, I'm willing to consider that it was something financial. Some kind of scam.

First thing that comes to my mind would be wire fraud, though I don't think Chris has the capacity to understand what that is or even grasp how to go about it.

 

[Fapcop]

Knowing how Chris is nowadays, I'm willing to consider that it was something financial. Some kind of scam.

Press X for doubt.

Big time.

The way Null said it seemed to indicate something much more serious than selling stolen PSN cards or whatever.

I’m also pretty sure, that had it been waaay offbase, Null would have chimed in with a: “Lol no! Of course Chris didn’t ask me to hurt or kill anyone, WTF guys?!”

 

[BScCollateral]

I’m also pretty sure, that had it been waaay offbase, Null would have chimed in with a: “Lol no! Of course Chris didn’t ask me to hurt or kill anyone, WTF guys?!”

Nah, Null would be laughing too hard at the faggots who assumed Chris was taking a hit on someone.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

Nah, Null would be laughing too hard at the faggots who assumed Chris was taking a hit on someone.

OK, what's always illegal? Murder, assault, theft and fraud, arson/vandalism. I don't believe doxing has always been illegal everywhere so I have to write that off. I don't even know that rape has always been illegal everywhere.

 

[BScCollateral]

OK, what's always illegal? Murder, assault, theft and fraud, arson/vandalism. I don't believe doxing has always been illegal everywhere so I have to write that off. I don't even know that rape has always been illegal everywhere.

I'm not sure how much you can read into "always illegal", since you're right, it's likely that any felony you care to name has been legal somewhere. In the Sumerian Empire from 1200-1143 BC it was perfectly legal to stab someone if they mispronounced "shibboleth." [Note for the autistic: that might not be historically accurate].

Likely, Null really meant "Everyone should know this is illegal." We also know that Null offered to help Chris to get his accounts back, suggesting that Chris was responding to someone who stole his accounts. Which in turn suggests that whatever Chris was asking for, it was related to the accounts he lost. So maybe getting new accounts under false pretenses, or revenge against the person who stole the accounts. Which could, I agree, include murder.

If you have a secret and people know it, the only correct response to any question or speculation is "I am not going to answer that." Null, I suspect, is too smart to play 20 Questions with secrets.

 

[Tikbalang]

So other than suggesting to hire assassins, it also could be something to do with computers and internet. There are so many possibilities on what's illegal in every country.
It might suggest that he wants a portion of Jeff Bezos's money to transfer to his account

 

[judge claude frollo]

maybe an Ultimate Showdown will happen in Cwcville and the destruction will purge the hellscape Chris has created.

 

[Chan Fan]

I've always wondered if Chris ever bought clothes anywhere but Goodwill. He hung out at the mall and Target all the time but did he ever buy clothes there?

I can sympathize because I shopped at thrift stores for a very long time, during my childhood and into the first part of adulthood. It was the only place I could afford to buy clothes but once I got a steady job I branched out and bought clothes at the same stores Chris talks about (at Target sometimes and also at the mall because there was a huge selection.) There is a big difference between dressing in what you can afford and dressing the way you want and I feel like he was never able to branch out from the styles he grew up wearing, and it makes me wonder if Barb picked out all of his clothes for them. We never read or hear about her going to the mall, only Chris and sometimes Bob went with him. Seems he had a brief stint of dressing differently in the beginning of the Tom Girl phase but little else has changed over the years

 

[Strange Wilderness]

I've always wondered if Chris ever bought clothes anywhere but Goodwill. He hung out at the mall and Target all the time but did he ever buy clothes there?

I can sympathize because I shopped at thrift stores for a very long time, during my childhood and into the first part of adulthood. It was the only place I could afford to buy clothes but once I got a steady job I branched out and bought clothes at the same stores Chris talks about (at Target sometimes and also at the mall because there was a huge selection.) There is a big difference between dressing in what you can afford and dressing the way you want and I feel like he was never able to branch out from the styles he grew up wearing, and it makes me wonder if Barb picked out all of his clothes for them. We never read or hear about her going to the mall, only Chris and sometimes Bob went with him. Seems he had a brief stint of dressing differently in the beginning of the Tom Girl phase but little else has changed over the years

If he did shop anywhere but Goodwill and Salvation Army its on a rare occasion. I know for a fact that one of his shirts, the green one in the THAT IS MY HOUSE video is from Old Navy but he could have bought it secondhand. His autism, addiction to routine, and being a cheapskate with everything except toys and video games means he gravitates toward cheap donated clothes. Maybe he buys specific things online if hes looking for something like a costume or other nerd paraphernalia.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

I've always wondered if Chris ever bought clothes anywhere but Goodwill. He hung out at the mall and Target all the time but did he ever buy clothes there?

I can sympathize because I shopped at thrift stores for a very long time, during my childhood and into the first part of adulthood. It was the only place I could afford to buy clothes but once I got a steady job I branched out and bought clothes at the same stores Chris talks about (at Target sometimes and also at the mall because there was a huge selection.) There is a big difference between dressing in what you can afford and dressing the way you want and I feel like he was never able to branch out from the styles he grew up wearing, and it makes me wonder if Barb picked out all of his clothes for them. We never read or hear about her going to the mall, only Chris and sometimes Bob went with him. Seems he had a brief stint of dressing differently in the beginning of the Tom Girl phase but little else has changed over the years

It's possible to thrift quite decent clothes. Check the different places and see where the rich people drop off their shit after wearing it once.
For example, goths have been doing this forever. Chris just has terrible taste.

 

[Chan Fan]

It's possible to thrift quite decent clothes. Check the different places and see where the rich people drop off their shit after wearing it once.
For example, goths have been doing this forever. Chris just has terrible taste.

I don't think Chris lives by a nice thrift store (I didn't either) but yeah I've heard of people finding really nice, expensive stuff in better-part-of-town-Goodwills. I wonder if he ever considered that changing up his look would have helped him find a girlfriend, that his look isn't one most girls go for. Maybe his mom sabotaged him by telling him he looked nice *shrug I've known a few [control freaks] moms who did stuff like that

 

[Argh My Cigar]

I don't think Chris lives by a nice thrift store (I didn't either) but yeah I've heard of people finding really nice, expensive stuff in better-part-of-town-Goodwills. I wonder if he ever considered that changing up his look would have helped him find a girlfriend, that his look isn't one most girls go for. Maybe his mom sabotaged him by telling him he looked nice *shrug I've known a few [control freaks] moms who did stuff like that

The sad part is that he could literally buy a basic black tee, jeans, and a belt from Mal-Wart for under $25 and it would still be a tremendous improvement over his schizophrenic autistic rainbow gypsy look.

 

[BScCollateral]

So other than suggesting to hire assassins, it also could be something to do with computers and internet.

It sounds to me like CHris-Chan has had another account stolen from him.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I've always wondered if Chris ever bought clothes anywhere but Goodwill. He hung out at the mall and Target all the time but did he ever buy clothes there?

I can sympathize because I shopped at thrift stores for a very long time, during my childhood and into the first part of adulthood. It was the only place I could afford to buy clothes but once I got a steady job I branched out and bought clothes at the same stores Chris talks about (at Target sometimes and also at the mall because there was a huge selection.) There is a big difference between dressing in what you can afford and dressing the way you want and I feel like he was never able to branch out from the styles he grew up wearing, and it makes me wonder if Barb picked out all of his clothes for them. We never read or hear about her going to the mall, only Chris and sometimes Bob went with him. Seems he had a brief stint of dressing differently in the beginning of the Tom Girl phase but little else has changed over the years

The Chandlers could afford clothes but that would be less money for the hoard, its also less money for legos and pokemon cards, thats why i don't feel empathetic, they were not that poor, just had weird priorities when it came to spending. Chris may have even purposely chosen those odd clothes for himself and picked the most mismatching shirts from the lot, and his parents just didn't care if he walked around looking like an autistic puzzle symbol.


Also, i once was very lucky and found a cool synthetic leather jacket on a thrift store for pennies, that was sweet.

Maybe he buys specific things online if hes looking for something like a costume or other nerd paraphernalia.

Or his precious collection of male sport bras

 

[silentium]

Been following Chris since I was 14 in 2008 until now in 2020. Got a medical degree in this time. Back in the day I was convinced that this whole thing was a very elaborate setup and that Chris simply couldn't be a real individual. Nowadays things make more sense.

Chris pretty much is a case study in the effects of cyber bullying in an individual with autism. It goes beyond my understanding why Bob did not simply forbid Chris from using the internet at all due to how clearly his psyche was being negatively affected by it, but then again, Bob also seemed to believe that Sonichu was genuinely famous? Strange situation but definitely poor parenting (You'll have to consider it parenting even though Chris was 20-30 years old at the time, since there never really has been any emancipation from the parents). Which honestly is a recurring theme all the way back to the mistake of getting Chris a diagnosis (good) but not pursuing therapy and support at any point.

Chris could've benefitted from such things in their late teens or even middle twenties. Even if the issues were ignored in their formative years, there would still have been room to remedy those. Chris might never have become a social butterfly even then, but a fairly normal life would not have been out of the question.

I'm in agreement with most people on here that Barbara has caused the most damage in Chris's life, however. The fact that she threatened with suicide and her own death on so many occasions, all for the motive of not letting Chris go, is so malicious and damaging. One shudders to think of what Chris went through in childhood - emotional violence and manipulation of children can absolutely result in just as bad if not even worse damage than actual physical child abuse.

I do not think that Chris qualifies for any psychiatric disorder outside of autism. The escapism/maladaptive daydreaming, imaginary friends/marriage partners etc can in my opinion all be explained by a combination of poor life satisfaction and having an elaborate autistic special interest (CWCville, OCs). Furthermore, issues such as escapism and paranoia, which both are present in Chris, tend to become more severe in situations of bullying. The fact that autism is in the picture means that it is hard for Chris to put the bullying and trolling into context - instead of perhaps looking into their own behavior as part of a larger social system ("Is there something I'm doing that makes me targeted by trolls?") , it resolves as feelings of helplessness. From this, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that a person with potential for escapism would spiral into such behaviors.

Chris's problems with believing that CWCville is real stem from the same root cause as his not having a good concept of death - abstract subjects are often difficult for a person with autism to fathom, especially without adequate therapy. A prime example of this is also the Father Call where Chris genuinely relates the death of a dog with somebody's mother dying.

There are issues with low self-esteem in there too along with poor ability to understand social cues which I believe most often manifest as problems with setting and enforcing boundaries and saying no. So many of the "sweethearts" should have alerted even a desperate person with how they spoke of private things that Chris hadn't told them personally (including literally quoting things Chris had said before they even came into the picture). There are so many of the chat logs/transcripts where I've just slapped my forehead and thought "Please Chris, for the love of god, say 'No!' or leave the chat/phone call!" on multiple points, but Chris has of course remained, receiving more blackmail and abuse in the process.

I have no idea of whether Chris truly has transsexualism or not, but I feel that the least one can do is show respect and not misgender. Claiming that calling Chris a woman is enabling of delusions does in my opinion become moot when you consider the amount of damage that has already been done.

Chris has a family and own history of heart disease, is at least overweight (been a while since I got a good look at body shape but would guess around BMI 30?), has at least had hyperlipidemia, consumes large amounts of sodium and has a sedentary lifestyle. And HRT. These all point toward a pretty high risk profile for severe cardiovascular events. It's at least fortunate that there's no habitual smoking involved, but I would not be surprised if there are more ER visits for chest pain in Chris's future 5-6 years. Around 40-45 is when you start seeing the effects of a poor life style on the heart and cardiovascular system.

When Barb does pass it is unlikely that assisted living or group homes will ever come into the picture because I don't really think that Chris is low functioning per se - there is knowledge of how to live responsibly but Chris often decides that other things are more important than such responsibilities.

Turned into a pretty long rant but this sums up my thoughts on Chris. Tl;dr - Autism, not schizophrenia, not disabled to motivate becoming a ward of the state, parents carry a lot of the blame but also the trolls and bullying, physical health will probably take a sharp turn for the worse soon, ignore/show respect for the transsexualism but don't mock it.

 

[AsianChris]

Was that whole paid gal-pals story true, or was something made to fuck up with Chris?

 

[{o}P II]

Been following Chris since I was 14 in 2008 until now in 2020. Got a medical degree in this time. Back in the day I was convinced that this whole thing was a very elaborate setup and that Chris simply couldn't be a real individual. Nowadays things make more sense.

Chris pretty much is a case study in the effects of cyber bullying in an individual with autism. It goes beyond my understanding why Bob did not simply forbid Chris from using the internet at all due to how clearly his psyche was being negatively affected by it, but then again, Bob also seemed to believe that Sonichu was genuinely famous? Strange situation but definitely poor parenting (You'll have to consider it parenting even though Chris was 20-30 years old at the time, since there never really has been any emancipation from the parents). Which honestly is a recurring theme all the way back to the mistake of getting Chris a diagnosis (good) but not pursuing therapy and support at any point.

Chris could've benefitted from such things in their late teens or even middle twenties. Even if the issues were ignored in their formative years, there would still have been room to remedy those. Chris might never have become a social butterfly even then, but a fairly normal life would not have been out of the question.

I'm in agreement with most people on here that Barbara has caused the most damage in Chris's life, however. The fact that she threatened with suicide and her own death on so many occasions, all for the motive of not letting Chris go, is so malicious and damaging. One shudders to think of what Chris went through in childhood - emotional violence and manipulation of children can absolutely result in just as bad if not even worse damage than actual physical child abuse.

I do not think that Chris qualifies for any psychiatric disorder outside of autism. The escapism/maladaptive daydreaming, imaginary friends/marriage partners etc can in my opinion all be explained by a combination of poor life satisfaction and having an elaborate autistic special interest (CWCville, OCs). Furthermore, issues such as escapism and paranoia, which both are present in Chris, tend to become more severe in situations of bullying. The fact that autism is in the picture means that it is hard for Chris to put the bullying and trolling into context - instead of perhaps looking into their own behavior as part of a larger social system ("Is there something I'm doing that makes me targeted by trolls?") , it resolves as feelings of helplessness. From this, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that a person with potential for escapism would spiral into such behaviors.

Chris's problems with believing that CWCville is real stem from the same root cause as his not having a good concept of death - abstract subjects are often difficult for a person with autism to fathom, especially without adequate therapy. A prime example of this is also the Father Call where Chris genuinely relates the death of a dog with somebody's mother dying.

There are issues with low self-esteem in there too along with poor ability to understand social cues which I believe most often manifest as problems with setting and enforcing boundaries and saying no. So many of the "sweethearts" should have alerted even a desperate person with how they spoke of private things that Chris hadn't told them personally (including literally quoting things Chris had said before they even came into the picture). There are so many of the chat logs/transcripts where I've just slapped my forehead and thought "Please Chris, for the love of god, say 'No!' or leave the chat/phone call!" on multiple points, but Chris has of course remained, receiving more blackmail and abuse in the process.

I have no idea of whether Chris truly has transsexualism or not, but I feel that the least one can do is show respect and not misgender. Claiming that calling Chris a woman is enabling of delusions does in my opinion become moot when you consider the amount of damage that has already been done.

Chris has a family and own history of heart disease, is at least overweight (been a while since I got a good look at body shape but would guess around BMI 30?), has at least had hyperlipidemia, consumes large amounts of sodium and has a sedentary lifestyle. And HRT. These all point toward a pretty high risk profile for severe cardiovascular events. It's at least fortunate that there's no habitual smoking involved, but I would not be surprised if there are more ER visits for chest pain in Chris's future 5-6 years. Around 40-45 is when you start seeing the effects of a poor life style on the heart and cardiovascular system.

When Barb does pass it is unlikely that assisted living or group homes will ever come into the picture because I don't really think that Chris is low functioning per se - there is knowledge of how to live responsibly but Chris often decides that other things are more important than such responsibilities.

Turned into a pretty long rant but this sums up my thoughts on Chris. Tl;dr - Autism, not schizophrenia, not disabled to motivate becoming a ward of the state, parents carry a lot of the blame but also the trolls and bullying, physical health will probably take a sharp turn for the worse soon, ignore/show respect for the transsexualism but don't mock it.

You need to go back.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Was that whole paid gal-pals story true, or was something made to fuck up with Chris?

Initially it wasn't true, but Bob accidentally confirmed that they payed a neighborhood gorl to be nice to Chris.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Was that whole paid gal-pals story true, or was something made to fuck up with Chris?

Both, a troll told it to Chris first but then he went to Barb and she confirmed it. Though the high school gal pals probably weren't paid, just arranged.

Initially it wasn't true, but Bob accidentally confirmed that they payed a neighborhood gorl to be nice to Chris.

Basically babysitter money to make sure he didn't wander away while walking to the bus stop.