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I don't think Chris lives by a nice thrift store (I didn't either) but yeah I've heard of people finding really nice, expensive stuff in better-part-of-town-Goodwills. I wonder if he ever considered that changing up his look would have helped him find a girlfriend, that his look isn't one most girls go for. Maybe his mom sabotaged him by telling him he looked nice *shrug I've known a few [control freaks] moms who did stuff like that
Thing is I'm sure all the time he spent at walmart and target trying to get female customers to pity fuck him could have been spent getting a few semi descent outfits together. Hell even today with the economy and prices being what they are I can still go into either store and walk out with a decent set of sweats, PJs, and maybe even new shoes and still have enough for food.
But nope forget trying to put a decent wardrobe together on a budget there was china to chase.
 
Late, but I think Wolf just treats this as a normal hobby rather than have some delusions of grandeur like most other bronies, and stays off social media like Twitter.

Or he's a primary furry. He has a fursona and not a horse. So he might be a standard deviation or so less deviant than the average brony.
 
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Just dropping this here to use as a reference for the CWCki since it's too large to be uploaded there.

Someone gathered info pertaining to Ryan Winger, alias "Owls" and "CpuTurquoiseHeart". Ryan's the disgraced founder of a group that was posing as CPU goddesses to talk to Chris, which later became the Watchmen white knight group. He was thrown out for allegedly trying to exploit his influence in it for ulterior motives - namely, trying to build a harem out of Chris's female enablers, asking some to move in with him, which they refused. He's 40 years old.
 

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Just dropping this here to use as a reference for the CWCki since it's too large to be uploaded there.

Someone gathered info pertaining to Ryan Winger, alias "Owls" and "CpuTurquoiseHeart". Ryan's the disgraced founder of a group that was posing as CPU goddesses to talk to Chris, which later became the Watchmen white knight group. He was thrown out for allegedly trying to exploit his influence in it for ulterior motives - namely, trying to build a harem out of Chris's female enablers, asking some to move in with him, which they refused. He's 40 years old.
Sometimes I think the orbiters are more pathetic than Chris. Imagine trying to orbit/white-knight a deeply maladjusted 40 year old autistic man who thinks he's a CPU Goddess for the purpose of picking up chicks.
 
Just dropping this here to use as a reference for the CWCki since it's too large to be uploaded there.

Someone gathered info pertaining to Ryan Winger, alias "Owls" and "CpuTurquoiseHeart". Ryan's the disgraced founder of a group that was posing as CPU goddesses to talk to Chris, which later became the Watchmen white knight group. He was thrown out for allegedly trying to exploit his influence in it for ulterior motives - namely, trying to build a harem out of Chris's female enablers, asking some to move in with him, which they refused. He's 40 years old.

Too be fair if this guy probably had any chance of getting fucked by a bunch of sad retards, these people would be it.
 
Been following Chris since I was 14 in 2008 until now in 2020. Got a medical degree in this time. Back in the day I was convinced that this whole thing was a very elaborate setup and that Chris simply couldn't be a real individual. Nowadays things make more sense.

Chris pretty much is a case study in the effects of cyber bullying in an individual with autism. It goes beyond my understanding why Bob did not simply forbid Chris from using the internet at all due to how clearly his psyche was being negatively affected by it, but then again, Bob also seemed to believe that Sonichu was genuinely famous? Strange situation but definitely poor parenting (You'll have to consider it parenting even though Chris was 20-30 years old at the time, since there never really has been any emancipation from the parents). Which honestly is a recurring theme all the way back to the mistake of getting Chris a diagnosis (good) but not pursuing therapy and support at any point.

Chris could've benefitted from such things in their late teens or even middle twenties. Even if the issues were ignored in their formative years, there would still have been room to remedy those. Chris might never have become a social butterfly even then, but a fairly normal life would not have been out of the question.

I'm in agreement with most people on here that Barbara has caused the most damage in Chris's life, however. The fact that she threatened with suicide and her own death on so many occasions, all for the motive of not letting Chris go, is so malicious and damaging. One shudders to think of what Chris went through in childhood - emotional violence and manipulation of children can absolutely result in just as bad if not even worse damage than actual physical child abuse.

I do not think that Chris qualifies for any psychiatric disorder outside of autism. The escapism/maladaptive daydreaming, imaginary friends/marriage partners etc can in my opinion all be explained by a combination of poor life satisfaction and having an elaborate autistic special interest (CWCville, OCs). Furthermore, issues such as escapism and paranoia, which both are present in Chris, tend to become more severe in situations of bullying. The fact that autism is in the picture means that it is hard for Chris to put the bullying and trolling into context - instead of perhaps looking into their own behavior as part of a larger social system ("Is there something I'm doing that makes me targeted by trolls?") , it resolves as feelings of helplessness. From this, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that a person with potential for escapism would spiral into such behaviors.

Chris's problems with believing that CWCville is real stem from the same root cause as his not having a good concept of death - abstract subjects are often difficult for a person with autism to fathom, especially without adequate therapy. A prime example of this is also the Father Call where Chris genuinely relates the death of a dog with somebody's mother dying.

There are issues with low self-esteem in there too along with poor ability to understand social cues which I believe most often manifest as problems with setting and enforcing boundaries and saying no. So many of the "sweethearts" should have alerted even a desperate person with how they spoke of private things that Chris hadn't told them personally (including literally quoting things Chris had said before they even came into the picture). There are so many of the chat logs/transcripts where I've just slapped my forehead and thought "Please Chris, for the love of god, say 'No!' or leave the chat/phone call!" on multiple points, but Chris has of course remained, receiving more blackmail and abuse in the process.

I have no idea of whether Chris truly has transsexualism or not, but I feel that the least one can do is show respect and not misgender. Claiming that calling Chris a woman is enabling of delusions does in my opinion become moot when you consider the amount of damage that has already been done.

Chris has a family and own history of heart disease, is at least overweight (been a while since I got a good look at body shape but would guess around BMI 30?), has at least had hyperlipidemia, consumes large amounts of sodium and has a sedentary lifestyle. And HRT. These all point toward a pretty high risk profile for severe cardiovascular events. It's at least fortunate that there's no habitual smoking involved, but I would not be surprised if there are more ER visits for chest pain in Chris's future 5-6 years. Around 40-45 is when you start seeing the effects of a poor life style on the heart and cardiovascular system.

When Barb does pass it is unlikely that assisted living or group homes will ever come into the picture because I don't really think that Chris is low functioning per se - there is knowledge of how to live responsibly but Chris often decides that other things are more important than such responsibilities.

Turned into a pretty long rant but this sums up my thoughts on Chris. Tl;dr - Autism, not schizophrenia, not disabled to motivate becoming a ward of the state, parents carry a lot of the blame but also the trolls and bullying, physical health will probably take a sharp turn for the worse soon, ignore/show respect for the transsexualism but don't mock it.

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It's probably been discussed to death, but why is Chris the way they are? It has to be a perfect storm of internal and external issues, right?

Like, Chris is either Autistic or has Asperger (Which are one in the same now I believe) but there's no way that's it. There definitely has to be some narcissistic personality disorder or minor form of schizophrenia. There's always been disassociation with reality in some form.

Bob and Barb were and are terrible people, from what we see in videos and accounts by Chris, Barb is extremely manipulative.

It could also be the location where they grew up and the people associated with them.

I just know it can't be those though - why are there not countless other 'Chrises' on the internet then. Having a mental illness and terrible parents aren't exactly rare. I'm just curious if there's any form of professional (or semi-professional) analysis of why Chris is the way they are.
 
Just dropping this here to use as a reference for the CWCki since it's too large to be uploaded there.

Someone gathered info pertaining to Ryan Winger, alias "Owls" and "CpuTurquoiseHeart". Ryan's the disgraced founder of a group that was posing as CPU goddesses to talk to Chris, which later became the Watchmen white knight group. He was thrown out for allegedly trying to exploit his influence in it for ulterior motives - namely, trying to build a harem out of Chris's female enablers, asking some to move in with him, which they refused. He's 40 years old.
So this group of people use goal is to make sure Chris doesn't get fucked over by wanna be idea fags and to make sure Chris doesn't get literally fucked by Sockness have let this guy into their group, then later removed him because they found out he was a retard? Is there not one sensible person in this bunch? I already think I know the answer but for fucks sake.

Actually this gets me thinking, Some of these people probably interact with Chris IRL, or are close enough to do so if they wanted to right? Why are they letting random discord tards interact with him at all if they already have a grip on him and are willing to squeeze?
 
I have decent writing skills and some experience in the field as an amateur, but my art is as good as Christian's. If I do an webcomic involving sonichu, with the intention of being a "fixed" sequel to the canon with a non-trooned Chris, will I be roasted here or people would like it?
Late reply, but @mertyville made a serial comic out of the ideaguy saga -with Chris-tier art and coloring. The comic utilized a whole slew of crossovers and it was surprisingly well recieved considering where we are.

- I think if you're able to make an interesting story out of the molten tism of Sonichu and post it in the appropriate thread, peeps probably won't shit on you too hard as well. You guys could probably collab, too.
 
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Sometimes I think the orbiters are more pathetic than Chris. Imagine trying to orbit/white-knight a deeply maladjusted 40 year old autistic man who thinks he's a CPU Goddess for the purpose of picking up chicks.
What does it say about Chris that he keeps attracting these people like flies on shit?
 
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Just dropping this here to use as a reference for the CWCki since it's too large to be uploaded there.

Someone gathered info pertaining to Ryan Winger, alias "Owls" and "CpuTurquoiseHeart". Ryan's the disgraced founder of a group that was posing as CPU goddesses to talk to Chris, which later became the Watchmen white knight group. He was thrown out for allegedly trying to exploit his influence in it for ulterior motives - namely, trying to build a harem out of Chris's female enablers, asking some to move in with him, which they refused. He's 40 years old.

For the purpose of setting things straight im just gonna post my story of what happened. Hi, my name is Ryan winger as you already know essentially over summer break, a friend had told me about Chris chan and his amazing adventures. I got really sucked into the crazy bullshit and decided to start orbiting. after a while of orbiting, I stupidly found the CWC rebellion discord after messaging smoky Chris who was running it (later to find out sperg was running the server and everything else in an attempt to force content out of Chris). after joining these people for about a week I met and kinda befriended 2 people one of them was MKR and the other was a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris this person was Talia (later I learned was a person that went from server and server searching out content from sperg). Meghan had started talking to Chris after some time so I devoted my time that I had to attempt to keep Meghan from causing problems and in all honesty, I did a pretty shit job at it. after a while Meghan had befriended Chris and weens we bothering her and her personal issues were getting hard on her too.

time passed talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society". foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server. this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea. around this time after we had failed sperg came back into the picture as himself. the "haram" he talks about is a group of people within his inner circle who I don't want to bring into this who were a few people I made friends with and lived within a close enough distance that all of us being wage cucks could move in together. this possibly could afford us a single house together as roommates and shit so that the cost of living would be easier on us. the whole reason this became a "harem" was that sperg was angry that the friends I had made and I realized how stupid he was after we noticed was going to get himself in trouble decided to leave.

having left spergs crew of people Meghan had found another group of people that were "farms people" I don't know who and have since forgotten. after a while of hanging around them, I decided that this was not meant for me and I needed to get back to my life as I was not comfortable with how things were going for me. It was around this time that I stopped posting and using Kiwi Farms so I could finish up school and get a degree.

That whole summer was essentially me being a retard getting into something way over my head and then attempting to walk away from it. I have since left the Chris chan community and don't plan on coming back at all there are some people on here that I enjoyed reading their posts as they were funny or insightful. but there were some people that orbited and a lot of people on the twitter that in general were just toxic and I realized I didn't have the time to handle things. since the time of Meghan talking to "Farms people" and me walking away I haven't written anything for Meghan comic or talked to her or their group since.

in general, on the few times I ever ended up talking to Chris I had the dark realization that there was nothing I could have done to help him and I probably should leave the community and such. I will admit I don't regret some of the friends I made and some of the times I had but this was greatly outweighed by the number of toxic people and those who look to slander those foolish enough to come with good intentions. while I can't stop the creation of posts or articles about me id much rather they have more straight facts or personal accounts over speculations and manipulation of those who believe toes I have stepped on.

anyway, it was fun for me for the most part but im out.
 
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for the purpose of setting things straight im just gonna post my story of what happened. hi, my name is Ryan winger as you already know essentially over summer break, a friend had told me about Chris chan and his amazing adventures I got really sucked into the crazy bullshit and decided to start orbiting. after a while of orbiting, I stupidly found the CWC rebellion discord after messaging smoky Chris who was running it (later to find out sperg was running the server and everything else in an attempt to force content out of Chris) after joining these people for about a week I met and kinda befriended 2 people one of them was MKR and the other was a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris this person was Talia (later I learned was a person that went from server and server searching out content from sperg) after Meghan has started talking to Chris I devoted my time that I had to attempt to keep Meghan from causing problems and in all honesty I did a pretty shit job at it. after a while Meghan had befriending Chris and weens we bothering her and her personal issues were getting hard on her too.

after talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society" foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea. around this time after we had failed sperg came back into the picture as himself the "haram" he talks about is a group of people within his inner circle who I don't want to bring into were a few people I made friends with and lived within a close enough distance that all of us being wage cucks if we moved in together could possibly afford a single house together as roommates and shit so that the cost of living would be easier on us. the who reason this became a "harem" was because sperg was angry that friends I had made and I realized how stupid he was and how he was going to get himself in trouble decided to leave.

after leaving spergs group Meghan had found another group of people that were "farms people" I don't know who and have since forgotten. after a while of hanging around them, I decided that this was not meant for me and I needed to get back to my life as I was not comfortable with how things were going for me. it was around this time that I stopped posting and using Kiwi Farms so I could finish up school and get a degree. this was essentially me being a retard getting into something over my head and then attempting to walk away from it. I have since left the Chris chan community and don't plan on coming back at all there are some people on here that I enjoyed reading there posts as they were funny or insightful but there were some people that orbited and a lot of people on the twitter that in general were just toxic and I realized I didn't have the time to handle things. since the time of Meghan talking to "Farms people" and me walking away I haven't written anything for Meghan comic or talked to her or their group since.

in general, on the few times I ever ended up talking to Chris I had the dark realization that there was nothing I could have done to help him and I probably should leave the community and such. I will admit I don't regret some of the friends I made and some of the times I had but this was greatly outweighed by the number of toxic people and those who look to slander those foolish enough to come with good intentions. while I can't stop the creation of posts or articles about me id much rather they have more straight facts or personal accounts over speculations and manipulation of those who believe toes I have stepped on.

anyway, it was fun for me for the most part but im out.

Wtf did I just read? I feel like I had a stroke midway through.
 
for the purpose of setting things straight im just gonna post my story of what happened. hi, my name is Ryan winger as you already know essentially over summer break, a friend had told me about Chris chan and his amazing adventures I got really sucked into the crazy bullshit and decided to start orbiting.
"Amazing adventures". He's not Jason of the Argonauts you autistic moron.

in general, on the few times I ever ended up talking to Chris I had the dark realization that there was nothing I could have done to help him and I probably should leave the community and such. I will admit I don't regret some of the friends I made and some of the times I had but this was greatly outweighed by the number of toxic people and those who look to slander those foolish enough to come with good intentions. while I can't stop the creation of posts or articles about me id much rather they have more straight facts or personal accounts over speculations and manipulation of those who believe toes I have stepped on.
So, you're basically claiming to not be retarded, you were just "pretending".
 
for the purpose of setting things straight im just gonna post my story of what happened. hi, my name is Ryan winger as you already know essentially over summer break, a friend had told me about Chris chan and his amazing adventures I got really sucked into the crazy bullshit and decided to start orbiting. after a while of orbiting, I stupidly found the CWC rebellion discord after messaging smoky Chris who was running it (later to find out sperg was running the server and everything else in an attempt to force content out of Chris) after joining these people for about a week I met and kinda befriended 2 people one of them was MKR and the other was a person exploiting and egging MKR on to talk to Chris this person was Talia (later I learned was a person that went from server and server searching out content from sperg) after Meghan has started talking to Chris I devoted my time that I had to attempt to keep Meghan from causing problems and in all honesty I did a pretty shit job at it. after a while Meghan had befriending Chris and weens we bothering her and her personal issues were getting hard on her too.

after talking with Meghan for about a month or so there came an idea from me in the most autistic way possible "convince Chris that merge wasn't happening and that CPU had decided to be on earth and act like normal people in society" foolishly believing this would work Meghan gathered some people from different servers she said we could trust and we made a server this idea failed and when the first person decided to brag about it on a different discord I shut down the idea. around this time after we had failed sperg came back into the picture as himself the "haram" he talks about is a group of people within his inner circle who I don't want to bring into were a few people I made friends with and lived within a close enough distance that all of us being wage cucks if we moved in together could possibly afford a single house together as roommates and shit so that the cost of living would be easier on us. the who reason this became a "harem" was because sperg was angry that friends I had made and I realized how stupid he was and how he was going to get himself in trouble decided to leave.

after leaving spergs group Meghan had found another group of people that were "farms people" I don't know who and have since forgotten. after a while of hanging around them, I decided that this was not meant for me and I needed to get back to my life as I was not comfortable with how things were going for me. it was around this time that I stopped posting and using Kiwi Farms so I could finish up school and get a degree. this was essentially me being a retard getting into something over my head and then attempting to walk away from it. I have since left the Chris chan community and don't plan on coming back at all there are some people on here that I enjoyed reading there posts as they were funny or insightful but there were some people that orbited and a lot of people on the twitter that in general were just toxic and I realized I didn't have the time to handle things. since the time of Meghan talking to "Farms people" and me walking away I haven't written anything for Meghan comic or talked to her or their group since.

in general, on the few times I ever ended up talking to Chris I had the dark realization that there was nothing I could have done to help him and I probably should leave the community and such. I will admit I don't regret some of the friends I made and some of the times I had but this was greatly outweighed by the number of toxic people and those who look to slander those foolish enough to come with good intentions. while I can't stop the creation of posts or articles about me id much rather they have more straight facts or personal accounts over speculations and manipulation of those who believe toes I have stepped on.

anyway, it was fun for me for the most part but im out.
Are you allergic to punctuation? Even a few more commas here and there would make this post read less like a schizo's journal.
 
"Amazing adventures". He's not Jason of the Argonauts you autistic moron.


So, you're basically claiming to not be retarded, you were just "pretending".
when I say amazing adventures I mean more like entertaining antics

im not even able to claim to not be retarded. like in all honesty I was autistic enough to believe when I started that somehow I could help Chris out and by the end of it I literally questioned if I should see a doctor to find out if im autistic

Are you allergic to punctuation? Even a few more commas here and there would make this post read less like a schizo's journal.
I attempted to make it better be in all honestly im pretty shit at typing. but im hoping I was able to convey that I'M RETARDED but in general I've left but for the sake of keeping facts straight I will answer any questions people have? (for like the next day or two because I've stopped being interested and have other things to get done)
 
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I actually had a question. I have recently discovered the full comprehensive history of CwC, and I while i haven't finished the series yet (part 20), I have to wonder what the hell made him a lolcow?

Because everything I've seen in the last 5 hours or so is just a bunch of trolls fucking with an autistic dude, and driving someone with an extremely fragile mind towards insanity. Usually I enjoy laughing at the Lolcows, because their behavior and their actions bring justification into the pilings on. ALR and DSP are key examples right, DSP especially is just a pile of shit in a sweaty vest and has proven to be a scumbag.

However with Chris, I get some of the crazy things he's done but most of them were done with provoking from trolls. And even some of the questionable things he has done are easily enough swept away because it's clear he doesn't know any better and cannot understand the consequences of his actions.

So why has this gone so far with him? What elevates him into "lolcow" status?
 
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