Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[The Lawgiver]

And they will never get what they ultimately want (changing sex) so they are the perfect, infinite consumer.

I know the post was months ago but this just reminded me about the fact this exact talking point used to be a thing comedies the last several decades used to make jokes involving megacorps and media groups. Since it literally became their strategy years ago it's become taboo to talk about and dismissed as"transphobia" despite it regarding no fear or hatred of trans people. They fucking know what they are and they're fucking too ashamed to accept it when called out. The fact the kinds of people online that rant about "capitalism bad" and "trans rights!!" shit usually have like 5 to 50 corporate sponsors backing them does not help their look at all lmao.

I'd like to share a somewhat autistic anecdote that nonetheless got me thinking about troon shit.

The other day out of nowhere, YouTube recommended me some videos by a channel called Xploshi. To summarize for those who don't know, he does surreal/creepy animated parodies of 90s kid's cartoon shows. What I saw got a chuckle out of me, so I checked out the channel:

The instant I read that one 4 letter word, I immediately thought the word 'troon'. I checked out his Twitter to confirm my suspicion and sure enough:

Basically, I was able to clock this guy without ever seeing his face, hearing his voice or even knowing his name. This got me thinking that a lot of troons want to have their cake and eat it too. On the one hand, they're totes 100% valid uwu females trapped in male bodies, but at the same time they mysteriously seem to engage only with more typically male-brained activities (animation, music production, video games, anime, card/table top games etc).

It's always weird/sad to me when someone I kinda follow online troons out because while I still find the vids funny I know if they ran into me they'd probably get extremely aggro like a pod person and leave some passive agressive post about transphobia or something. My cope is I can ignore the gender listing and twitter activity if the content is still funny but once it goes into full on twitter/reddit brain lectures masquerading as "comedy" then it's game fucking over. So far Xploshi's output is still quality funny sans the kinda coomer-y avatar redo and pronouns game stuff. Me and some friends actually frequently out of context quote some of the goofy fucking videos like the near entirety of the bootleg inspector gadget point and click game one where he just dies at the end and the wiggles one with the "you should be able to hear them approaching" part.

 

[TruffleSpark]

more tumblr:

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the difference between the LGB and the T is that no one has to participate in, for instance, my homosexuality. nobody has to sleep with me, nobody has to “validate” me, nobody has to conduct my marriage ceremony. i simply am a lesbian because some animals just are lesbians. it requires nobody elses participation because it is an objective reality.
but a trans person must recruit the people around them into their service. burdens are placed on everyone else: acquaintances and strangers must use their correct pronouns, state licensed medical professionals must provide cosmetic surgery on demand, attractive people of their preferred sex must at least give them a fair chance. this is a big reason i desisted, because putting those kinds of demands on people felt childish even back then.
a trans identity hinges on the opinions of other people, hence the stereotype that they spend a lot of time online (where it’s easy to find a community that will support whatever worldview you happen to have). hence, also, why open opposition to the public existence and legal protection of gays and lesbians died in our culture, and why opposition to the demands of the trans lobby is growing in a steadily upward, broad-based and grassroots trend. it’s the difference between trying to stop a thunderstorm and trying to stop a toddler from throwing their toys everywhere.

 

[deermeat]

When we mention how "there's no such thing as a functional addict", I wonder if troons ever think to themselves "well that can't be true! (insert famous artist here) was an addict!".
Because even if they are deluded into thinking the trans stuff isn't a form of escape, I'm sure they are self aware to some extent about their other vices. All the troons have other vices that control them.

The thing with that comparison is that all of the "great artists" who were also addicts died prematurely or their art degraded or both happened (their art degraded and then death).
A lot of those artists also struggled with motivation too. They create projects, never finish it. Create new ones. Let people down. Start drama. All this trouble involved. All this chaos and destruction, all for what?

I feel like maybe these people, in a lot of ways like how they romanticize the opposite gender (or the idea of having no gender), romanticize addiction and to struggle. The same way middle class white kids romanticize being low class, which a lot of troons are apart of that demographic. They see addiction and mental illness as something that makes art more "deep" and "meaningful. Sure, all the great artists suffered. But most of therm didn't cause their own suffering. They went through actual trauma and suffered the consequences of actual mental illness.
A lot of these troons are mentally ill, sure, but they keep trying to pretend they are mentally ill in a different way. In an exaggerated "I'm so quirky, Im such a misunderstood loner where the world is out to get me" type of way.

Troons don't realize that the behavior they have, their outlook- those people go nowhere in life. The only things those people have are superficiality. They might make one thing, and that's it. They won't finish it, they'll be too demotivated because of their addiction. And even then, that one thing they make is never without massive controversy because of course their behavior and outlook on life leads to nothing but trouble.

They could be great artists, creating the things they dream up- actually finishing projects for once. Leaving an impact. No longer viewing numbers on a screen as a product of their self worth. They could be revolutionary in the way they fantasize about, in a genuine way though.

I think it's funny how they latched onto Kurt Cobain as if he was truly trans, not realizing that if trans was a thing back then he would've had the same fate but without the music we knew him for today. Him being trans would've been just another vice to add on the list of the countless other vices, inflating his ego too.

At the end of the day, it will all catch up to you. It may not today, but it will tomorrow. Look at history. Addiction will always catch up to you. Everyone who remains addicted will always lead a miserable life. To say otherwise is absurd. It's shameful seeing these people throw their lives away while in their early 20s, being deluded into thinking they're taking a "chance"- what chance? Oh you poor poor thing, you really think things will get better? By giving up and indulging in the vice that surrounds you, trying to buy your way out of insecurity, instead of being "ashamed", you honestly think that will all go well for you? My fallen friend, since when has that worked for anyone?

 

[TruffleSpark]

Lots of TRAs claim to be communists. Yet they love videos of middle/upper class TIMs humiliating service workers using the wrong pronouns on camera. Solidarity with the workers dissappers the moment that worker commits the hatecrime of hurting a Person of Gender's feelings.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

Yea

Lots of TRAs claim to be communists. Yet they love videos of middle/upper class TIMs humiliating service workers using the wrong pronouns on camera. Solidarity with the workers dissappers the moment that worker commits the hatecrime of hurting a Person of Gender's feelings.

Yeah this I don't get, every time I see a troon in a Che t-shirt I start thinking about how many words they could say before he shot them on the spot if they ever met him.
But I think their reasoning is that they do more important work, creating "culture" by drawing zippertits on cartoons and stuff, anyone can fix a car, but reimagening existing charachters being trans takes talent.

 

[Space Police]

Yeah this I don't get, every time I see a troon in a Che t-shirt I start thinking about how many words they could say before he shot them on the spot if they ever met him.
But I think their reasoning is that they do more important work, creating "culture" by drawing zippertits on cartoons and stuff, anyone can fix a car, but reimagening existing charachters being trans takes talent.

Much like the antiwork dog walker, these people are so narcissistic that they think that under communism they'll be professors, philosophers, and entertainers who live off NEETbux even though they would absolutely be working in the factories or the fields. The ironic part is that they wouldn't get their precious porn, fandom, social media, and HRT obsessions under communism since all those things are inherently capitalist. I've said before, the political system most fitting to troons is anything-goes libertarianism, but troons hate that because that requires work. Troons just want the products of capitalism without having to work for them.

 

[deermeat]

I keep posting on here but man, trans stuff gets my brain going. There's just so much to ponder about. I love psychology and biology, I love spirituality and the way propaganda works. I love learning about different cultures, different beliefs systems, and different societal structures. It's so morbid, but so fascinating. Queer theory and the way it was brought about perfectly reflects modern day moral and govermental corruption, it is like if we had everything wrong with the western world wrapped up in a neat lil box- mainly because queer theory includes fat acceptance, therefore making it so that you don't gotta draw parallels because they both come from the same mold.

Spoiler: strict parents

Anyways, a lot of troons are obsessed with the idea of "choice". They want to play God. They want to decide which way goes. And yet it all shoots them in the foot because you can't turn something objective into something subjective without everything else becoming meaningless. That is the problem with postmodernism.

Thing is, I notice that a lot of these people often come from "strict" parental guidance/communities and decide to "rebel". A lot of the "strictness" they imply is much needed restrictions that goes against their must-feel-good-at-the-moment narrative.

And it has me thinking.... I feel like having a strict system is better than having no system at all. Freedom of choice can be paralyzing. When it comes to the usual Asain Kid stereotype, they have strict parents but through that strictness they are taught self control and self reliance way more than the average person. Even if you look at Japan's hikikomori problem, which could be argued as being the result of an overbearing system, you realize that these people wouldn't be acting this way if the parents didn't enable their life. I mean really, who's letting them be neets while living with their parents? Obviously, the parents. When it comes to hikis who live by themselves, well at that point what would be the problem then? They got a job to sustain themselves. But no, a lot are mooching off their relatives. Something that wouldn't be the case if their relatives were more strict.

Having strict parents is one of those things you hate when younger but love as you get older. Look at millennials. Look how entitled most of them are. How obese most of them are. They came from a generation where parenting became more lazy. Back then, you literally couldn't be lazy. Very few were able to do so and even then, the life circumstances (like with war) made it so that their laziness would be unsustainable.

Having a strict system makes it so that you are not paralyzed by choice. Having a parent decide for you whats best is more often than not whats best for you. Sure, it can be soul-crushing. But who says it has to be? That's what I want to know. We are obsessed with this idea that jobs have to fun and be about what your passion is, and yet the same people preaching this (troons and troon allies) are miserable sacks of flour. They pick shitty careers like art, journalism, etc and then wonder why they are so miserable. They think that if they have a hobby then that hobby must be turned into a career, that you couldn't possibly be an artist and not make money off of it. It's almost like OnlyFans in a way, very few actually make a livable wage while the rest stagger.

People equate strict parents guiding their kids as grooming them into the Rat Race, but how is a lot of these people any different? They're just as obsessed with wealth and power as the people they think they are "rebelling". Just because you decided to pursue art doesn't mean your career path is less of a rat race, especially with not the way these people handle themselves since they are obsessed with having a following.

People seem to forget that you can make the best out of every situation. You could pick the career your parents want for you, and then decide to live your life however you want outside of work hours- especially since you'd have more money. Burnout isn't when you work hard, it's when you don't make time for yourself. Your parents wanting you to succeed so that you won't have to struggle isn't abuse. What would be toxic is if your parents are never satisfied even as an adult, trying to control every aspect of your life. But that's often never the case at all. A lot of the strict parents don't pressure their kids into being CEOs or anything, they modtly pick jobs in the medical and lawyer field.

Also these peoples' ways of combating strictness is so strange. They have this "ill show you!" mentality, and then they just do things that completely hurts them and not others. Like a child. The equivalent would be if someone told an alcoholic alcohol was bad for them and that they shouldn't drink, and then the alcoholic is like "oh yeah?? you can't tell me what to do with MY body", drinking themselves to the point of getting alcohol poisoning.

 

[Mad_Dog]

Much like the antiwork dog walker, these people are so narcissistic that they think that under communism they'll be professors, philosophers, and entertainers who live off NEETbux even though they would absolutely be working in the factories or the fields. The ironic part is that they wouldn't get their precious porn, fandom, social media, and HRT obsessions under communism since all those things are inherently capitalist. I've said before, the political system most fitting to troons is anything-goes libertarianism, but troons hate that because that requires work. Troons just want the products of capitalism without having to work for them.

Maybe communism is the solution to the tranny problem after all.

 

[AWizard]

I honestly think it's a psyop against nerds/geeks.

 

[kyskeff]

Are pooners seriously the result of sexual abuse? I know several pooners IRL and they weren't abused but I keep seeing this claim made, especially by people like Jersh. Has there been a study on this? Any proof?

I find that usually there's some sexual or at least extreme emotional trauma in TIFs, especially the no-physical-transition pick me young ones. Not always, but by far more often than not. I've said this before, honestly think that it's denial about their sexuality and/or self confidence issues compounding trauma & already-present mental issues.

Some shittily-presented US DoJ factoid says that 1 in 2 trannies has been sexually assaulted, but doesn't specify gender identity of them besides 'transgender'. It's also definitely a talking point, trannies talk about being vulnerable to assault & such constantly.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Is he an AGP or HSTS troon? Even though I don't know, I suspect that he's an autogynephile.

I had this most random thought in response to the quoted post, but I thought to quote it here instead of the thread this original comment was in so as to not derail anything.

Is it possible to be both AGP or HSTS at the same time? As in, a man who is attracted to other men, but also gets sexually aroused at the thought of himself as a woman?

It's also definitely a talking point, trannies talk about being vulnerable to assault & such constantly.

Funny how they intentionally miss the implication that sexual assault can literally warp the victim's sexuality or sense of self.

 

[LimeRikki]

Is it possible to be both AGP or HSTS at the same time? As in, a man who is attracted to other men, but also gets sexually aroused at the thought of himself as a woman?

Yes, Dylan Mulvaney is a prime example.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Something from a post in the TRW thread.

"rotten eggs lost in Narnia"

Seems to be a term the troons have invented as a way to quickly delegitimise and dehumanise anyone who disagrees with the troon cult, by re-framing them as "trans in denial". They're "rotten eggs" or "hard-boiled eggs". Earliest examples seem to be from reddit (of course) from around 2017, as handily documented by wiktionary. The argument most often seems to be some variation of either

a) the person in question is virulently "transphobic", so in the same vein as the argument that extreme homophobes must actually be gay, transphobes must actually be trans, or
b) the person in question expressed some variation of "if I were a child today I'd probably be convinced I was trans", which the troons misinterpret as an admission that they actually are trans, but in denial, rather than an expression of disgust at how manipulative and totalitarian the trans cult really is.

The lesson learned fro this is that troons despise anyone that escapes from their grasp, and will do just about anything to dehumanise them and isolate them from their peers, while seeking an opening through which they can try and evanglise them into the cult afterwards.

They will even slap the label on anyone who was once an "ally", but then turned against their ideology. Tatsuya Ishida (the sinfest artist) is apparently trans-in-denial, according to a former fan. A significant number of the citations above are of people talking about him specifically.

The addition of "lost in narnia" makes it worse, because they are trying to promote the idea that these "rotten eggs" are lost in a fantasy land and need to return to the "reality" of their trans existence. They are trying to portray their fantasy world as the real thing, and reality as something made up. Ironically, something that one of the Narnia books actually addressed in The Silver Chair, when a witch tried to convince the protagonists that the world above ground was just a dream and her underground empire was the only reality that existed.

I think it's safe to say that I have learned a new level of hatred for these creatures.

 

[DavidS877]

Something from a post in the TRW thread.

I'm still really enjoying their narrative of "attack using an exploit"

That attack: Being illegal and getting reported to your provider/upstream/DNS registrar.

Even though Cogent and many other AUPs would likely drop all manner of sites for hate speech and other non-crimes(in the US). The retards have been mostly confining their reports to things that are actually illegal.

 

[deermeat]

Anyone else notice the influx of troon men bleaching their hair blond? It's the gayest shit ever yet most of these men are bi who'd prefer actual women if they had rizz.

 

[Jacques1194]

So it finally happened.A friend of mine who runs a discord with around 60k people admitted in a PC that he's getting fed up with the teenagers on there because 99% of the time all these kids talk about is gender and sexuality.Some random user brought up "There are only 2 genders". and that was enough to get the teens rallied up and cause chaos.Thankfully though hes planning on making the server 18+ so these teens will have to leave.Call my friend a boomer, but even he was confused by these kids profiles because its literally always about pronouns,gender,sexuality,etc and sometimes putting their mental health disorder like autism or ADHD.One profile he clicked on confused him a lot because their pronouns were some made up shit like fae/faer and he was like "Wtf is this shit?", and he even said that these kids are mentally ill.Honestly, i dont fucking blame him for planning to make the server 18+ because these kids are deranged.

 

[TismFarmer]

So it finally happened.A friend of mine who runs a discord with around 60k people admitted in a PC that he's getting fed up with the teenagers on there because 99% of the time all these kids talk about is gender and sexuality.Some random user brought up "There are only 2 genders". and that was enough to get the teens rallied up and cause chaos.Thankfully though hes planning on making the server 18+ so these teens will have to leave.Call my friend a boomer, but even he was confused by these kids profiles because its literally always about pronouns,gender,sexuality,etc and sometimes putting their mental health disorder like autism or ADHD.One profile he clicked on confused him a lot because their pronouns were some made up shit like fae/faer and he was like "Wtf is this shit?", and he even said that these kids are mentally ill.Honestly, i dont fucking blame him for planning to make the server 18+ because these kids are deranged.

On the other hand, imagine how demoralising it will be to make it 18+ and STILL have the same problem with Genderspecials.
It's not just dumb teens anymore...

 

[cia-log]

Thankfully though hes planning on making the server 18+ so these teens will have to leave.

It's a shame, more and more it seems like young people and kids are being left with very little opportunity to interact with reasonable adults that could serve as decent role models. I can't imagine the people I was mentored by growing up would be willing to put up with the crap that comes with being a part of these spaces now. If spaces for hobbyists or interests for which a young person might springboard a career are too high strung to retain functioning adults, and regular people are less likely to talk one on one with teenagers they're not related to because of potential grooming accusations, what are kids going to do except get stuck in echo chambers where the most obnoxious person is the most heard? It must be a really confusing and awful time to be a teenager these days, I feel bad for them.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Anyone else notice the influx of troon men bleaching their hair blond? It's the gayest shit ever yet most of these men are bi who'd prefer actual women if they had rizz.

Yeah I’ve noticed this. I now regard it as an instant red flag.

 

[Aunt Carol]

If spaces for hobbyists or interests for which a young person might springboard a career are too high strung to retain functioning adults, and regular people are less likely to talk one on one with teenagers they're not related to because of potential grooming accusations, what are kids going to do except get stuck in echo chambers where the most obnoxious person is the most heard

This is something I've been thinking about, too. When I was a kid on the Internet, you weren't supposed to admit to being a kid. I'm sure some people figured it out, but I was on my very best behavior trying to interact as a peer with adults. On rec.music.dylan, so the stakes weren't all that high, but it was still a standard.

Now the zeitgeist is "how dare you traumatize a minor," "you didn't read my how2interact FAQ on my profile" and "old fool, never mind you trying to answer my question about soldering, sit still while I teach you all about your sins against gender."

Am I yelling at clouds? It just seems like the burden of adapting for social interaction is being externalized; exceptions are made for your in-group, but an outsider, or someone you just don't want to talk to, must grovel and continually apologize.

And as Reddit completes its Walmart takeover of groups and messageboards, old people who just want to discuss grilling are forced to at least pay lip service to the sitewide speech restrictions, making it easier for a new member with a few oppression cards to steamroll over a quiet community.