Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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However, her roommate was the 4th person. She is homophobic (casually and directly to me), and she touches me all. the. time. One time, she squeezed my ass and ranked/ compared my body to others (I am fat, she is not). I was frozen at the moment, but I followed up the next day to say I didn’t want to be touched by her and that it is not cool to talk about bodies like that.

She went to Friend with this whole explanation, apparently pointed out that other people touch me and she just didn’t understand how sensitive I was. Friend tried to smooth it over with me. But Roommate never apologized or checked in with me and I pointed that out and asked not to be discussed unless I was included (maybe that was wrong though?). I was then iced out for 4 months, where I barely saw Friend and was uninvited from Friend’s house from all the dinners, movie nights, and social things (which was my entire social life in a COVID world, because we all agreed to bubble).

Eventually, I had a heart-to-heart with Friend. It got better, but I avoided Roommate. Yet when we briefly overlap, she touches me. Every. Time. And at my birthday she came to get dinner/ hung out for several hours. She also touched me and held my arm while Friend was in the bathroom. I don’t understand why she invited herself, especially to the part not in her house. I don’t understand why Friend did nothing, but she also bought me such an expensive present I feel ungrateful being mad at all. My other Buddy was there and he knows I have a problem with Roommate and was trying to buffer, but he also doesn’t seem to have much of an issue with her.

Roommate has trouble with substance abuse, dropped out of college, has gotten in trouble for touching people at work, and maintaining any other friendships. Friend really wants to support her financially and emotionally. I want to be kind and not contribute to the pain she is feeling… but every time she touches me I want to scream and turn into a feral animal. She has apparently pointed out that I touch other people and other people touch me (those people are my friends and we have discussed consent because I need that).

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Does touchy roommate seem like a troon to anyone else? Not that women can’t be creeps but eh. Especially since the letter writer is “non binary” and troons flock together (albeit seems like 50% of college aged girls are non binary these days.)

Edit: and yes all these ppl sound like a nightmare
 
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Watched a documentary about JonBenet Ramsay and one particularly disturbing part was a random nutter who was obsessed with the case and wrote something like 6000 pages of sexual fantasy about murdering her and being in love with her. He was on police radar because he (falsely) confessed to killing her. He was eventually arrested in Thailand for csa materials possession.

Anyway, he is now a “woman” named Alexis.

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It’s almost like…
 
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I've now reached a point where I've given fuck all about trying to fit in socially, people suck, idc and I am going to stick by my principles. Despite this being one of my favorite threads (it's fascinating) I have chosen not to interact with it because of my social circles and I don't want it reflecting on what I say. Oh well, idc anymore. After dealing with someone who is a pathological liar, hypocritce ripe with privilege (you know, actual privilege, not the wokey shit they say to make themselves feel better) yesterday I have decided fuck it. The following is pretty poorly written, most of you will know this shit and this is mainly notes. It was written in like an hour. I have sources available for this stuff, but this is something I want to write more about soon.


So:

The Trans Bandage:

Trans Rights are - The Trans movement is nothing more than an attempt to assimilate multiple differing groups, into one overarching group. This group is relative based on location, this is not a conspiracy, there is no reason to suggest that there is a centralized body explicitly advocating this on an international scale. This may exist locally with NGOs and charities but such a phenomenon is restricted to purely local scenarios. At best, it may stretch across some countries across multiple continents but the world is large enough, and diverse enough for such an occurrence not to take place. It is not George Soros who is responsible for the outlook of East Asian countries, or Muslim countries. Rather, it is the complex and local history of each of these cultures that gives way to different perspectives on the construct of gender and how we ought to interpret it.

The Chinese eunuch certainly predates Soros, and the stereotypes associated with them are not in play to that of the modern trans stereotype. One does not see JK Rowling tweeting about how governments around the world are being played by eunuchs, who are the real vestiges of power. The term eunuch has become entrenched within popular culture, one can think of ASOIF (A Song Of Ice and Fire) as one of the main examples of this. The eunuch Varys worked to manipulate political affairs, climb through the ranks and ultimately become one of the most powerful men in the seven kingdoms working to bolster his overall position, push his goals and allow conflict, seek conflict; To prevent the conflict from ending, to prevent competent leadership so long as it was under his name. Of course, the character Varys was whitewashed in the show. He claims to explicitly be serving the good of the realm. This contrasts with his book counterpart. But, like a great many things he and his friend Tyrion Lannister are not the same character and were whitewashed for the delight of the audience

I define the Trans-Agenda as the pushing of the notion that transitioning to a perceived, construct, re. It serves to reinforce the regressive notion that identity ought to be grounded in perceived norms relative to others. In the case of those transitioning, identity ought to be grounded in cultural, marketing petitions that seek gender as 1: A means of conformity, and 2: To advertise and serve products by repeatedly insinuating that one must like A because they are a part of X. It prohibits people from expressing their sense of self, and instead promotes a uniformity grounded explicitly in the norms of gender. Those transitioning, undertake a process to become a perceived identity based upon their interpretation of constructs and how that interacts with them. There is not one sole example of this.

Modern attempts to push ideas of trans identity explore it as coming out of a cage, to becoming something that you were always were, something that was always hidden. Of course, if gender is a social construct built upon notions of masculinity and femineity then that must mean they are not true, but rather it is a mental perception which assumes a belonging to said group. There were times that such notions were defended on the grounds of there being a “male” and a “female” brain, a ludicrous sexist claim that tried to group and justify the existence of transpeople by trying to ground the mind-body problem in science by giving a causal reason as to why a brain may act in a certain way. Such regressive notions seek to regurgitate and enforce the traditions, and conservative norms for which the idea of transitioning explicitly tries to infiltrate and subvert to make their own.

Of course, the routes of Blanchard’s dichotomy of HSTS (Homosexual Transexual) and AGP (Autogynophile) cannot be escaped. For those privy to trans history, they’d be well aware of how transition was associated with being gay. Historically, Casablanca became well known in the 50s for performing what we now refer to as “gender reassignment surgery”, which is the process of constructing the neovagina with the explicit purpose of purveying the image of a straight, heterosexual couple such that they could be married. This was most common in the West during the 1950s and onwards, in particular the United States as it was the only way for it to be socially acceptable to be gay. Lose the dog to get the dog. This practice remains in practice in countries such as Iran where those who are homosexual are persecuted on the grounds of religion, where undergoing surgery and being forced to take upon a new identity is the desirable path forward.
Of course, not all Homosexual Transexuals have such a sob story. Rather, this is gay men who transition.

The Autogynophiles are the biggest concern for discourse for advocates for the explicit expulsion of trans individuals from any community. The main reason why is those that who are Autogynophiles, get a sexual kink out of it. The reason though as to why this is important is because women generally have a fear attributed towards those of the male sex. This is for many reasons, such as overwhelming strength, the male libido and size to name a few. Needless to say, when there is a hulking threat in drag, women are wary.

It would be wrong to deny the very existence of the Autogynohpile when other men may get off of “genderbending”. Just as we may think of the man who likes to get a little freaky in the night, and put on tights and whatnot (think of the sissy) we get proof that there is the window for sexual pleasure from this. Crossdressing is nothing new. The myth of trans genocide in itself is built upon the murder of Trans prostitutes, and the creation of a victimhood myth made explicitly because it was some plot to eradicate “trans folk”. – Remember the ladyboys!
However, only men seem to have been mentioned so far when it comes to transitioning. Indeed, this is one of the actual flaws with the dichotomy in that it was only men who were really related to it. This is no surprise; one only needs to be aware of the “beware” duology to understand the focus that men like to get in media. Both boys and girls ought to beware of those yucky men!

Yet, the dichotomy is something that can be built upon (but it will no longer be a dichotomy). First, is what I term as the “Neurotypical Transsexual”, that is someone who is neurotypical and seeks to construct a new identity in the hopes of improving their well-being. We can think of this as an evolved step of the practice of masking, that seeks to construct a replacement identity that filters out the undesirable attributes of the sinful Neurotypical who dares to not fit into societal norms because no one wishes to hear upon the inner workings of a Class 225 for hours on end. In the context of the Neurotypical Transsexual, transitioning means essentially mask and moving away from their past, sad experiences. They blame their past for the reason why they don’t fit in and argue that being the other gender would make things so much easier. This could arise from trauma, this could arise from a myriad of different reasons. Transitioning, again, is not monocausal irrespective of the “Gender Dysphoria” casus beli. There is not one cause of cancer, there is not one type of cancer why should we assume that there is one cause factor for Gender Dysphoria?

There too are what I would like to call other types of transgenders. These are those that have other mental illnesses, but the point of transition is that it is done as a means of trying to create a placebo to direct their mental illnesses towards and blame it on gender. Are they depressed? Must be bc they are a repressed dood. Are they starving themselves? Must be because they don’t like their tits! This is wrong, what we are doing is not teaching people to learn to live with themselves, and accept themselves but rather teaching them to learn to live with someone else, that they are not and accept the mask. This will not last, it will crash and burn. It is cruel, and not in the patient’s best interest.
There are also other examples, more popular with women, that have women transition as a means of trying to fit in or adapt to a social group through social contagions. More has been written on this elsewhere.

What trans rights serve is nothing more than an attempt to assimilate different groups into a perceived, unified umbrella with the explicit goal. If our goal is to help people, then we ought to be trying to encourage them to live a healthy life full of compassion. Not some wretched act done for the bemusement of pharma or whatnot. Forcing them into a drug cocktail meant to cause bodily change, causing bodily surgery and forcing them to maintain a consistent mask, which causes severe mental harm when it flounders is not help. It is not compassion, it is trapping someone in a cage poking them constantly until they break. The transition may work for some, but it does not work for everyone. The history of healthcare and medicine is proof that assimilation does not work. One of the sexes, women, have an immune system that is typically twice as strong as men’s. For vaccines, they only need half the male dose. There have been countless examples of other racial groups having different responses to medication.

Pushing Transgender rhetoric primarily serves to explicitly destroy groups, and serve to mould them into a perceived better. We can think of this in the traditional routes of transition being used to target those that were gay, and how it is now focused on the neurodivergent. Whilst, incorporating multiple different groups which allows different stigmas and prejudices to arise.
 
Against my will, I have been on a tour of hell recently and part of that has been being forced to interact directly with more troons than usual. Not sure if it is a new trend or if I just never noticed before but this painful episode has shown me a number of male troons opting for truly enormous, comedy-grade implants. And not, apparently, wearing the kind of engineering I suspect the average female who is similarly endowed would deploy to manage such structures.

A smelly autist with toob moobs is one kind of horror, but a smelly coomer with melons that look like they were taken off a 400 lb black DMV lady is another level entirely.
 
but this painful episode has shown me a number of male troons opting for truly enormous, comedy-grade implants. And not, apparently, wearing the kind of engineering I suspect the average female who is similarly endowed would deploy to manage such structures.
I don't doubt your troon-assessment skills, but as these people were hopefully otherwise clothed, could they have been wearing silicone falsies? There's a little gulf between the "fat ladies get cancer too" implants and the "porn star" implants, and we've seen troons here complaining that their plastic surgeons have the tiniest smidge of ethics/concern for outcomes and won't give them ludicrous bolt-ons, at least not on the public dime.

At least you can trust troon hygiene to team up with inappropriate underwear to eventually give them intertrigo.
 
I don't doubt your troon-assessment skills, but as these people were hopefully otherwise clothed, could they have been wearing silicone falsies? There's a little gulf between the "fat ladies get cancer too" implants and the "porn star" implants, and we've seen troons here complaining that their plastic surgeons have the tiniest smidge of ethics/concern for outcomes and won't give them ludicrous bolt-ons, at least not on the public dime.

At least you can trust troon hygiene to team up with inappropriate underwear to eventually give them intertrigo.
I don't know how to put this delicately but...

1. Definitely no doubt they are TIM/MTF specimens, especially as in a couple of cases they are present as official delegates of said category. And so...

2. In all cases accompanied by highly unprofessional and awkward displays of what would on a more natural chest be referred to as décolletage. So it isn't as though it's a bulge hidden under a high necked sweater, you can see way more than any sane person would want to see, and in fact are forced to every time he leans over.

3. These are large but not attractive or porny- thus the DMV lady comparison. My best guess as to how they ended up how and where they are, geographically speaking, is that the troon paid a bargain price for some implants before covid then put on 50+ lbs during the lockdown eating DoorDash as we know many similar individuals did.
 
I posted this in A&H but I think it warrants posting here. It bears repeating...if a shizo went to their general doctor or emergency room and said, "I want to have my leg amputated because I feel like it shouldn't be there," 99% of physicians would give them schizo meds, document that they're schizo, and send them on their merry way with some kind a psyche referral if not directly to the nearest inpatient psyche bed.

Yet somehow, if someone says, "I think I should be the opposite gender" or "I want to be the opposite gender" we're supposed to view that as legitimate, even if that someone has a litany of mental health diagnoses and/or is a first-grader that still believes in Santa and insists on wearing their Spiderman pajamas everywhere. Yes, there's money to be made off of troons in the medical industry but it's not as if every single doctor benefits heavily from it. Come on, now, DOODS.

And it's absolutely mind-boggling how quickly we went from wanting to "dismantle" gender norms by telling girls it's OK to like monster trucks and Batman and boys it's OK to like unicorns and want a Barbie Dreamhouse (which I do agree with) to "if a boy likes pink we need to cut HER penis off" and "if a girl likes WWE we need to cut HIS arm skin off to make a peepee tunnel."

I'm so glad I grew up in the 2000s and my sensible, rightoid parents told me it was OK that I liked to play with both Littles Pet Shop toys and "boyish" video games. I'm glad they didn't see a problem with me having me somehow getting along better with boys when I was a kid (still lowkey the case today). I'm glad they said I could still like some girly things and be a "tomboy."
 
I feel like a lot of women who poon out do idolize men solely because the way men treat each other versus how women treat each other is different, and I wish more talked about it. Its a really blackpilling experience being a woman whos more masculine in terms of personality and hobbies. But I can also see how the average women, even if she isnt masculine in any way, could struggle socially when it comes to other women.

Theres this carefree attitude men have that women simply do not. Women are always acting catty, always trying to outshine each other in a non playful passive aggressive competitive manner.

Yes men can be aggressive to each other, and they can be cold and not address issues, but theres also that loyalty that men have. A loyalty that even women notice and complain over. A loyalty most women do not fucking have with other women, only men if anything.

Women can just be extremely weak willed, and for lack of a better word, extremely pathetic.
I have no experiences with lesbians who werent older and already faced lesbian bed death while also being a theyfab, so I have no idea if this is just a straight women thing.

I feel like with the way pooners act with each other verus troons, you can see what Im talking about way more clearly. No wonder women are now idolizing femboys and now even TiMs, they get more support from each other. Pooners are awful. Women can be awful, its why my dumb 15yr old self was an incel for the most part despite being a woman. Ive never had or met a postive female role model in my way, never met a woman who wasnt catty in some way. Only seen that type of women in public figures and in fictional media. I know what women CAN be which is so frustrating. I know its a culture thing thats being bred. True non toxic femininity is beautfiul, it isnt like this. Its just most women I feel like have toxic femininity. Its why they love gay men so much.
 
Theres this carefree attitude men have that women simply do not. Women are always acting catty, always trying to outshine each other in a non playful passive aggressive competitive manner.
Uhm, sure, it's a thing. But you don't even have to be a scrotesperson to just KNOW that men are fucking each other up way more severely than any women. They basically always threaten each other with physical violence - Even just latently and long before they do that with women, because most men will keep other men in check for threatening women and girls - again, with implied or outright threats of violence. If men get along, it's the same as when women do. But when they don't, shit is way more fucked. Just look at crime statistics or ... war. The men on top of the hierarchy games, the guys which you noootice, are of course more carefree than most women. But sure, that's where pooners go wrong: they think the magic pills turn them into alpha chads which is really dumb because, if it was so easy, male losers, conversely, wouldn't try their hand and whammening. It's quite bizarre that TIFs miss that. You'd think they'd brush with male troons in their LGBTQI+ spaces.
Women can just be extremely weak willed, and for lack of a better word, extremely pathetic.
I'd wager most troons are basically all of the above, male and female. Pertaining women, there's def. sisterhoods and life long besties. If anything, single men, statistically, become very socially isolated by their 30s. I definitively read that in a few studies: there's always some roll off around that age when they don't have families. Hightened adjustment and genreal social/mental issues amass. They have no hobbies, only a few drinking buddies. That stasis may look like "loyalty" from the outside but if you read actual psych reports or hear men talk about it irl, that stuff sounds horrible. Cat ladies in knitting circles are very likely more healthy and happy. And you cen see it, too. You can't tell me that what you'd call a weirdo isn't, more often than not, a single, 40 something guy.
 
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male losers, conversely, wouldn't try their hand and whammening.
Yeah but thats the thing.
Even when you consider men to be violent, how often it is really that the average male friend group tried to kill each other and not try to attacking women? Or really attack anyone, as this would just be an average friendgroup= nothing crazy. You mention war and stuff, but that just proves men's loyalty to others. They worship their male idols like Gods, how often do you see them worship women without wanting something in return? How often do you see women worship female Gods without an obsession with being "defiant" against men?
Of course pooners will magically think pills will make them an alpha, but not all of them are like that. Because even among male losers, they still have a better sense of community among each other. Look at incels. Look at neclbeard gaming circles or other nerdy hobbies. Look how muchn they glaze each other up. Look how modern media potrays men, as that modern media is made by men, in hobbies ruled by men, because men will boost each other up instead of tearing them down if they have an ounce of respect for that person. Meanwhile if a woman sees another women as good at her trade, she will simply just try to tear her ass down.

I feel like possibly the loyalty they have comes down to the fact men are so willing to fight each other.
Im just saying women simply do not have that sense of connection at all. Theres a huge culture difference. Men often think growing up as a women is full of support by other women and that everyone is nice to each other when its the complete oppsite. Its why so many women who are outcasts end up just befriending guys, and even those same guys have guy friends of their own- but its hard to have any female friends as an outcast, the ones you do get you always have to be cautious of in case they talk behind your back or other petty shit.
 
Even when you consider men to be violent, how often it is really that the average male friend group tried to kill each other and not try to attacking women? Or really attack anyone, as this would just be an average friendgroup= nothing crazy.
age dependent. most violence gets sublimated in sports or "doing retarded shit", daring each other to cross that red light, dust that mofo in the ferrari and what not. Young men in their "friend" group basically always have a leader and that leadership is constantly contested. This is way beyond what goes down amongst most girl cliques. TIFs don't know what they'd be in for, if they really, actually "passed". They wouldn't make it. They just remove and other themselves from women but, to their saving grace, men still see them a weird, now sexually unavailable women. They basically become invisible. Which is what some probably, sub consciously want, after all. You can't tell me that amputating your breasts and sewing your vagina shut aren't copes for sexual abuse victims.
 
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Look at incels.
I didn't pick that up at first but holy moly, is that a rabid hole for you! That stuff is the most vile and toxic cesspool you've ever witnessed. These guys are basically doing what mean girls are doing to each other but they're still men (tho, probably closet gay or something), so it's even worse. How many mean girls tell their bullying victims to go postal on the scrotes (or whatever inversion of roastie comes to mind) while posturing how they'd love to do the same all the time? Not many, I bet. See, there's the (hopefully) latent violence again.
I don't even know where to start you - look up the threads on the farms, these guys eat each other alive.
sry for double post.

Yeah bro, use a hammer to bone smash your face!

They treat breaking each other mentally as their bloodsport. Compared to what I've seen in women and girls, they, like most men, who cause problems, don't know when to stop either.
It also illustrates very much how mindbroken men, who can't compete, become.
To the female idols, which are lacking in widespread worship: kinda true. But the idols men worship are often very dull, how many guys worship scientists instead of sportsbrodude #139054712? It's probably a little more than women who find marie curie cool but then there's just less women into stem, overall.
 
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Theres this carefree attitude men have that women simply do not. Women are always acting catty, always trying to outshine each other in a non playful passive aggressive competitive manner.
I must be super autistic because I only encounter this on occasion. Most women seem to want to get along in life as much as men do.
How often do you see women worship female Gods without an obsession with being "defiant" against men?
Were you on tumblr back in the day? I feel like you weren't. This is still prevalent in the pagan and witch scene.

Im just saying women simply do not have that sense of connection at all. Theres a huge culture difference. Men often think growing up as a women is full of support by other women and that everyone is nice to each other when its the complete oppsite. Its why so many women who are outcasts end up just befriending guys, and even those same guys have guy friends of their own- but its hard to have any female friends as an outcast, the ones you do get you always have to be cautious of in case they talk behind your back or other petty shit.
Deermeat, dear, I think you need to unpack these issues with a therapist.

Men on the Thunderdome side of the forum will bitch about the inherent loneliness of being a male (with at least half of them being reasonable users with reasonable complaints - it is the thunderdome after all). Some of them see all of womenhood as more connected. Perhaps it is a human trait that no matter what, outcasts to a group feel like outcast and will idealize the other side of the coin and covet it. I think this is something on your mind that has spilled over to your outlook on gender relations since you're in this section of the forum often enough to think about it.
 
The dominant belief is that capitalism is crushing us all underfoot, and any personal success might be seen as challenging that belief, so you have to either hide it or not aim for it at all.
I mean, they're not wrong but 'lie down and rot' is exactly what keeps the system going.
Since a few peeps here were doing assorted rants, TMIs and general spergs, I will let my triggered inner commie loose:
I don't really know how they got this warped idea of leftism or capitalist critique, the very ideas you've observed in action right there are what one might call "identity politics", which is something marx vaguely foresaw as a strategem of oppression in late stage capitalism. I'm assuming that these circles see themselves as some kind of "marxist" or, at the very least, are perceived as such, since I read that assertion about troons and "lefty snowflakes" very often on the farms over the recent years.

If anything, marx is proven right again by all of this. Legit communists are all about action and self reliance. Hoping for some kind of state sponsored gender-ascension, while your food scraps are rotting in your kitchen sink, is quite literally the hall mark of a placated 'lumpenproletariat'.
If we genuinely believe anything said in these circles is even remotely marx-pilled, we really just drank cool aide from the (synthetic)estrogen poisoned well.

The trannys are doing the monopoly man's work here.
Asking yourself: "Do I really need that 3rd set of cookware?" on black friday and then not working a second job to pay off your credit card debt, that is not only frugal but also marx pilled. Forfeiting your shot at a house and good paying job while sterilizing yourself is just going full slave. You need means to start agitating and effecting change - if you are thus inclined. Even a good communist - a marxist is not necessarily that - will take what he can get and THEN work to distribute what he doesn't need to the benefit of others but most importantly, the cause.

These people are just losers. Hopping on the newest trend MARKETED to them.
Whatever they're doing is way more capitalist than it could ever be marxist-socialist. They're consoooming without working - just like the owner class. They're closer to our current masters than to the working people. That reality you already aptly described.

One can even be a marxist without being a communist - you can ascribe to his observations but not his and Engel's solutions. And I guarantee that most black rock and goldman sachs bankers read and internalized "Das Kapital" and apply it's insights about ripping people off thoroughly. I heard it as an audio book, slightly abbreviated, and it's good stuff - nothing most of us didn't know anyways, I'm sure, but it's a neat compilation on how capitalism is all about pitting people against each other to rip them off. And always remember: we live in a capitalist society and troons are a product of it, no matter what they identify as. There wouldn't have been a terminally online, knee-sock wearing teen suburbanite posing with ikea sharks on instagram in soviet kaszachstan. It's an entirely late stage capitalist phenomenon. These "leftists" are appropriating that title and go well-poisoining with it and it works which pleases klaus and soros.
 
I'm so glad I grew up in the 2000s and my sensible, rightoid parents told me it was OK that I liked to play with both Littles Pet Shop toys and "boyish" video games. I'm glad they didn't see a problem with me having me somehow getting along better with boys when I was a kid (still lowkey the case today). I'm glad they said I could still like some girly things and be a "tomboy."
I feel the exact same way, except in reverse (a boy who got along better with girls). I'm glad I could grow up playing Bratz games and GTA on my PlayStation. I'm glad I can be playfully effeminate occasionally, and I feel more comfortable when other people can do the same. I think it's kind of scary when people feel so afraid of being perceived and labelled something that they behave in such rigid ways.

It is quite strange how the modern 'queer' and 'trans' movement is bringing back the whole idea that boys can't play with princesses and girls can't play with guns, and also the idea of sexual fluidity meaning that 'everyone is bisexual', or whatever, even moreso guilting heterosexuals and homosexuals of both sexes into pretending they are attracted to whatever hideous beasts decide to call themselves the sex they are attracted to.
 
Men on the Thunderdome side of the forum will bitch about the inherent loneliness of being a male (with at least half of them being reasonable users with reasonable complaints - it is the thunderdome after all). Some of them see all of womenhood as more connected. Perhaps it is a human trait that no matter what, outcasts to a group feel like outcast and will idealize the other side of the coin and covet it. I think this is something on your mind that has spilled over to your outlook on gender relations since you're in this section of the forum often enough to think about it.
IMO the people whining about the inherent loneliness/inability to connect of their gender (regardless of whether they're male or female, I've seen both doing it) don't realize that their problem is lacking social skills. Men tend to be more socially retarded than women. Lonely men are even more socially retarded than other men, which makes everyone dislike them. Lonely women are more socially retarded than other women but slightly less so than men, which also makes them unable to socialize with anyone. The only thing the two have in common is that they're outcasts. Lonely men expect lonely women to have the same social struggles as them and vice versa, and that's where the entire "who has better friendships" sperging begins.
 
There's a big element of "grass is greener" looking at the other sex interacting with each other--from the outside. It's really easy to romanticize something you're not participating in, even more so if you're looking at a nostalgic media portrayal of it. A modern tomboy watching the boys from Stand By Me poke at a corpse with a tear in her eye is the equivalent of a modern troon beating off to Disney Channel junior high sleepovers.

I'm a laaady and every now and then a book or movie makes me nostalgic for a socially-proficient, tons-of-friends girlhood I never had, but I've noticed that it's boyhood nostalgia that hits me harder. Part of it is because I resonate more with weird adventures, but a lot of it is because I still was a girl, so I still know that the movie version of it is mostly BS.
 
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