Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

Feminist fanfic.

What else would you expect from a lesbian, man-hater? Another thing we agree upon?

 

[Aunt Carol]

You can get breast implants as a tranny, but as a women with a double mastectomy you can’t even get that let alone padding for your bra.

Yo this is not completely correct: the Women's Health and Cancer Rights Act of 1998 says that if your (applicable) insurance covered a mastectomy, it must also cover reconstruction, prosthesis, and/or altering an unaffected breast to match.

I always wondered why the trans didn't try to build off of that to argue that the government has enshrined the preferred presence of breasts as a right, but either they don't care enough about cancer to pay attention or they finally understood one single boundary of good taste and ethics and didn't want to touch it.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

Yo this is not completely correct: the Women's Health and Cancer Rights Act of 1998 says that if your (applicable) insurance covered a mastectomy, it must also cover reconstruction, prosthesis, and/or altering an unaffected breast to match.

I always wondered why the trans didn't try to build off of that to argue that the government has enshrined the preferred presence of breasts as a right, but either they don't care enough about cancer to pay attention or they finally understood one single boundary of good taste and ethics and didn't want to touch it.

I really wish this was the case. Most insurance don’t cover the masectomy, they cover the removal of cancer out breast tissue, a masectomy for reasons of breast reduction or breast implants after removal of cancer out breast tissue is not covered it is considered a cosmetic procedure

 

[Aunt Carol]

Most insurance don’t cover the masectomy,

That's how they getcha; the after-mastectomy care is tied to the mastectomy, for cancer only. It comes down to the inherent evil of health insurance companies and reading your policy. mine did

The breast cancer industry might be the final boss that even trans know they can't fight. It's not the individual nauseated women who can't raise their arms above their shoulders, but if the trans awaken the sleeping giant, Susan G. Komen Foundation has enough lawyers and publicists to fight for their bread and butter.

 

[Aquarius]

Sex is one of two usual combinations of physical, genetic, hormonal, and reproductive characteristics

Wrong. Sex is a singular quality. It is not a sum of multiple attributes. That is a tranny lie. They spread this lie because if sex is a net sum of characteristics, then they can tip the scales and move into another sex category. They cannot. If sex was a series of combinations, why would there only be two of them? Wouldn’t there be an infinite number of sexes caused by variations in genitalia, karyotype, hormones, etc.? I know you said “usual”, but these sorts of generalized statements make it sound like this isn’t a discrete binary when it very much is. That’s the sort of sloppy rhetoric that trannies will jump on.

Genetic abnormalities do not apply to this definition because they do not constitute a "usual combination," and should be treated as medical conditions, not sexes.

Much like your comment about “usual” attributes, you’re making a weak argument here and you don’t have to. Intersex people don’t exist. That is a fact. There is not a single human being who has produced both gametes. There are no exceptions and you should never capitulate to trannies and concede that they do. We normal people do not need to make decisions about what to consider a condition or a sex because there's already a definition.

As for people who are called or call themselves intersex… it’s a misnomer. The proper term is “disorder of sexual development”, and studies show that most people with a DSD prefer to have their condition referred to directly, by the condition’s name. When you look into DSDs, you see that they disprove tranny nonsense rather than vindicate it. Every single person with a DSD has a binary sex, otherwise they would have been dead in utero.

It's not your fault that you think this. Trannies have spammed their bullshit worldwide so that even Harvard educated politicians are repeating shit like Anne Fausto-Sterling's five sexes "theory". They deliberately frame their positions as "advanced biology" and accuse anyone who doesn't get it of being a stupid hick who only took high school level biology courses. They prey upon the humility, agreeableness, and decency of normal people to bully them into thinking they're too stupid to have an opinion. In fact, I'm so sick of these fuckers lying about biology to the public that I felt obligated to stop phone-posting and hopped onto my computer to articulate this. I am going full fucking autism. Call me a table at a retirement home because I'm gonna be seeing puzzle pieces after this.

Sex determination explained
Human sex is determined by chromosomes. This is not a universal thing in the animal kingdom. There are plenty of animals, like several species of reptile, who determine sex through environmental factors like temperature. This is why climate scientists are so concerned about the effects of global warming on them, because it could create a scenario where there aren't enough members of one sex for the population sustain itself.

Spoiler: Diagram 1

This is a diagram that shows the percentage of baby animals that are male (Y-axis) relative to the temperature (X-axis). On the left, you have the temperature determination pattern of red-earred slider turtles, Olive Ridley sea turtles, and painted turtles. For these animals, during the period of sex determination, cool temperatures produce males and high temperatures produce females. On the right, you see the sex-determination pattern observed in American alligators, snapping turtles, and geckoes. In their system, males are associated with moderate temperatures, whereas females are more common in cool and hot weather. Source. Archived below under Shoemaker & Crews, 2009.

Besides temperature, there are other modes of sex determination. My favourite is the weirdest one, called haplodiploidy, which is found in eusocial insects such as bees and wasps. In this system of sex determination, the males are born from unfertilized eggs and the females are born from the fertilized ones. The males have no father, since no one fertilized the egg, and so they only have a mother and a single set of grandparents through her. Since sperm and eggs are haploid (or half) cells, all males in this system are haploid, hence the first part of the name. The females, on the other hand, have a mother and a father. They are the product of eggs fertilized with sperm, or two haploid cells becoming one whole "diploid" cell. As a result, the females are diploid, which is the other half of the system's name. The end result is that males have half the amount of chromosomes - DNA and genetic information - as their female counterparts.

Spoiler: Diagram 2

This is why worker bees are more closely related to their sisters than their own offspring. This matters because genetic relatedness means how much of yourself is in this other individual, and therefore how predisposed you are helping them. Worker bees are willing to live, work, and die for their baby sisters because they are more related to them then they would be related to their own kids. You, as a human being, only share a half of your genetic information with your siblings, if you have any. Worker bees share 3/4s of their DNA with their sisters. These bees have the same genetic incentive as a lioness with her cubs or you with your family, but their mode of sex determination alters the level of relatedness between family members. This affects how they treat one another, which leads to new modes of social organization, such as the eusocial hive where most of the females raise their sisters rather than have offspring of their own.

Spoiler: Table 1

Shared gene proportions in haplo-diploid sex-determination and human system relationships
Alternatively: How much of their genes do wasps and bees share with their family members? What about people?

	Female wasp	Male wasp	Human (sex irrelevant)
Daughter	1/2	1	1/2
Son	1/2	Not applicable	1/2
Mother	1/2	1	1/2
Father	1/2	Not applicable	1/2
Sister	3/4	1/2	1/2
Brother	1/4	1/2	1/2
Maternal aunt	3/8	3/4	1/4
Maternal Uncle	1/8	1/4	1/4
Paternal Aunt	1/4	Not applicable	1/4
Paternal Uncle	1/4	Not applicable	1/4
Niece (Sister's daughter)	3/8	1/4	1/8
Niece (brother's daughter)	1/4	1/2	1/8
Nephew (sister's son)	3/8	1/4	1/8

I copied this table from Wikipedia but changed it a little to make it more intuitive, and included a column on human genetic relatedness. Let's go through some wasp examples (columns 2 and 3) just to drive home the point, starting with row 1. If a mother (the queen bee) has a daughter (a worker bee), they share half their DNA because the daughter also has a father with whom she shares 1/2 her genome with. If a father has a daughter, she has all of his genetic information because that haploid information is all he has. In row 2, we see that a queen bee shares half her DNA with her son, because he's a haploid organism and she's diploid, but all his genetic information came from her. However, when you try to find the genetic relatedness between a father and his son, you see that I wrote "not applicable" because no such thing exists for them. The sons are unfertilized eggs all grown up, they have no father and thus no genetic relationship with a wasp that doesn't exist.

If you look at the human column, you'll see that there are no unavailable options because all human beings come from eggs fertilized with sperm - diploid cells. Correspondingly, it's not only possible but mandatory that human sons have human fathers. If you look at rows 5 and 6, you'll see that humans share half their genomes with their siblings, which is less than what female wasps have relative to their siblings.

I'm covering all of this stuff because so much of the confusion trannies push in relation to sex deals with chromosomes, what they mean, etc. So let's look at another case study, one which is closer to ours, but not identical - the chicken. Chickens, like humans, have their sex determined for them by genetic variables. Chickens, like humans, develop from diploid cells regardless of sex. However, I said closer and not the same because chickens have different chromosomes and a different homogametic sex. Confused? Don't be, because my powerful and unrelenting autism will elucidate:

Chromosomes are just a means of keeping DNA in order. They're big bundles of DNA that can be unrolled and rolled back up at the leisure of the cell's inner machinery. They're essentially a rolled-up ball of yarn, with DNA and it's spiral structure being like a piece of thread wrapped up in the ball. Or a roll of ticker-tape with measurements (information, an analogue for the DNA's information) demarcated inside. Human sex chromosomes, when viewed in a photo called a karyotype, look vaguely like an X and a Y, so that's what we call them. Chicken chromosomes labelled W and Z, but this is to make it easier to distinguish them from our sex determination system - their sex chromosomes don't really look like Ws and Zs.

What's the difference between X/Y sex determination and W/Z? Mainly, which one is the homogametic sex. What does that mean? Homo means the same, and gametic refers to gametes. Basically, which sex has two copies of the same sex chromosome? In humans, this is the female, with her XX chromosomes. In chickens, this is the ZZ rooster. The homogametic sex can be male or female depending on what animal species you're talking about. The opposite of the homogametic sex is the heterogametic sex, or the sex with two different sex chromosomes. For humans, this is the XY male, and for chickens, it's the ZW hens.

The homogametic sex matters because this is the default sex. You ever hear the lie that "we all start female"? Bullshit tranny-captured pseudo-science publishers like ASAP Science push this, and you may have heard it as a kid in grade school. What these stupid lying retards should be telling people is that "we were all on the track to being female". For humans, the default developmental pathway is female. For chickens, it's the rooster. For humans, something (the Y chromosome) needs to come in and turn the individual male. Maleness, in humans, must be "turned on", like a trolley operator refutes Kant and runs over an innocent man tied to the tracks pulls a lever and changes the pathway. If the trolley operator doesn't flip the switch, it's not like the train stops and waits, it just keeps going down the line it was fixed to, which, for humans, is the female.

You can do this trolley analogy with chickens except the default path leads to a rooster and the path that must be activated leads to a chicken. Notice how, in this analogy, there is no third option (or third sex). Notice how, in this analogy, if the train doesn't go down one of the two paths, it crashes and tips over. Likewise, any baby without a binary sex will die in utero. There is no exception. It will be a spontaneous abortion. Finally, consider how smart this system is. If there were separate switches that had to be "turned on" to go onto the female or male track, there would be a risk no path would be selected and the zygote dies. By having a "default", there is a greater likelihood that the baby will survive, even if there is something fucky-wucky going on.


Disorders of Sexual Development (DSD) Explained
So let's return to the topic that triggered my profound autism, the issue of so-called intersex disorders. All a DSD means is that something fucky-wucky happened on the sex chromosomes. Fucked up shit happens on chromosomes all the time. Down's Syndrome happens because one of the chromosomes (the 21st, specifically) gets duplicated too many times. More genetic information sounds like a good thing, but it actually makes the cell a confusing mess that has a myriad of downstream effects as the cell struggles to get at the information on that cell. Now, trannies don't consider people with Down's Syndrome to be their own gender or sex because they're retards (and not the nice Downy kind) whose understanding of science is inaccurate and motivated by their fetish. Let's go through some examples of disorders of the sex chromosomes:

Turner Syndrome
I'm starting here because this condition explains something very important about human sex chromosomes - specifically, how the X chromosome is necessary for life and the Y chromosome is not. The X chromosome is huge, and you need at least one to be alive. The Y chromosome is small, and not necessary for life, as the existence of women demonstrates. The X chromosome is not a sex chromosome in the way the Y is. The Y exists to turn on maleness, and acts as a life-support system for the gene that does it, the SRY-gene. Because females typically have two X chromosomes, they can compensate for issues on one by using the other. This is why people will say things like "a son will be bald if a mother's father is". This isn't true, but the logic is that the grandfather had one X with "baldness genes" on it, and he gave part of his X to his daughter, meaning she may have it too. However, since she has a backup X, she needs a double-dose of "baldness genes" to go bald. Whereas this woman's son, only have one X, could go either way. He could inherit his grandfather's baldness, maybe not, but he has no "backup" to help out. This is one of several reasons why women are generally less affected by genetic disease than men, why female spergs are less affected than male ones, etc.

With Turner Syndrome, you have a female stripped of those genetic advantages, because she only has one sex chromosome, an X, which is demarcated as "XO", where O indicates an absence. There is no male-equivalent to Turner Syndrome. There is no "OY" individuals because, without an X, you die. Because there is no Y, all patients with Turner's Syndrome are fully and completely female. They are not "half female" because they have only one X, like some retard tranny would claim. They stayed on that trolley path to womanhood, they were not derailed by a Y or not able to stay on the trolley path with only one X. Yet, they still have a disorder of sexual development because there is something with their sex chromosomes, and so, despite being 100% female in every way, Turner Syndrome patients are deemed "intersex".

Kleinfelter's Syndrome
This is where a man - and like Turner Syndrome, they're all one sex - has XXY chromosomes. Trannies will see that and go scream about how this person is half man and half woman because he has two of the "girl chromosome" and one of the male. As I explained, this is retarded - if you have a working Y chromosome, your trolley is going down the male path. The fact that this male also has an extra X doesn't make him half female, since X chromosomes don't induce femaleness, they permit life. His Y (in most cases) works, and so he develops as a man. However, like with patients with Down's Syndrome, having a bunch of extra genetic information cluttering up the cell makes it hard for shit to get done. The end result is a man - a complete and total man - who nevertheless struggles with endocrine issues and gynecomastia (moobs).

Summary
As you can see from these two case studies, so-called intersex disorders are nothing of the sort- that is an ableist lie spread by trannies. Every single person with a DSD has a binary sex - otherwise they wouldn't be living human beings. It's actually dehumanizing in the most literal of senses to say someone sits between the two sexes. Some DSDs are limited to one sex or another - women can't have Kleinfelter's and men can't have Turner's, simple as. There are some DSDs that can affect men and women, but these disorders affect men and women differently. Even in cases such as CAIS - or complete androgen syndrome - the resulting individual is still male. The androgen insensitivity means that the genetic message struggles to get out, so CAIS males are born with blind pouch pseudo-vaginas and internal testicles - but they're still male and are not the same as females, as I demonstrated in this post. And then I was accused of being the lolcow subject of the thread because if you interrupt the circlejerk and concede a lolcow was ever right about anything ever, you're their alt. However, I'm not the only person to make this point on this website.

Why do trannies spread this ableist, hurtful misinformation?

1. If a tranny claims to be "intersex", they can pretend that they're actually a woman, or something closer to a woman than they actually are. Vice versa for pooners. You see this with freaks like Tommy Tooter, CWC and his "female soul" shit, Robert "Alexis" Arquette and his "female soul" shit, some dude screaming at J.K. Rowling, etc. I've discussed this before. Twice, actually, since autism is my superpower and hating trannies is my special interest (not even joking here).
2. If a tranny pushes the notion that "intersex" people exist, then it confuses the binary understanding of sex, so then they can call you a stupid idiot who doesn't understand biology (t. someone who has been accused of knowing only "high school biology" before saying something like the contents of this post). Making you feel stupid allows them to bulldoze over you and push their ideas, since apparently you're too uneducated to make informed decisions (again, another lie, you know what your eyes see).
3. Because they're too stupid to know they're lying. This is especially true of pooners, who I have IRL experience of being screamed at by, and who will often accuse me of lying about my academic credentials because I'm transphobic transmisiac. I literally showed one of these dumb bitches my old student ID from my wallet and she started jumping up and down, tits-a-flapping, saying that my ID doesn't have my declared major on it. Do not let these fucking people make you feel stupid. They're stupid.

And do not doubt me, trannies fake this shit. I link the same three papers ad nauseum, and one of them is Pretence of a Paradox, which I'm archiving below under Cadet & Freeman, 2012. Basically, these researchers found that a huge portion of online "intersex" communities are actually trannies lying through their teeth. They know they're lying because these retards will often claim multiple, often contradictory or mutually exclusive. One especially hilarious line in this paper says that they knew the tranny was full of shit because he had male pattern baldness and evidence of electrolysis on his face... if he was actually a male with a DSD like CAIS or PAIS, he wouldn't have needed it.

Gender comes out of the consequences of those differences in combinations of characteristics,

Gender doesn't exist. Or, rather, gender does exist, but as a linguistic term, short for "gender roles" (AKA sex stereotypes), or a euphemism for sex. Gender identity is a lie trannies make up. It is unfalsifiable and tantamount to a soul, but more stupid. You and I don't have a gender identity. You and I have accepted the reality of our sexes. When Terry Shiavo's brain melted, she didn't stop being a woman because she had no brain with which to identify things. Gender roles might exist because of certain sexed characteristics (in conjunction with the other variables affecting culture), but a role is not the same thing as an intrinsic thing you have. Again, you're falling for tranny lies, when you should be telling them that normal people don't have a gender and to prove the existence of theirs. Is there a replicble study saying souls or "genders" exist? No? Then tell that tranny to shut their surgically deformed face.

The consquences of the differences in the sexes, over the course of human history, have been reinforced by male physical superiority over wahmen.

Yes, very much so. Which is why I laughed when that pooner I mentioned before screamed at me. What is she gonna do when I have several inches on her? "Bitch, be silent."

I am likely stealing from some 60s feminist without knowing who she is

I wouldn't say you're "stealing", just convergently coming to similar conclusions. You know, like calculus.

Anyway, I'm not trying to dunk on you or anything, you seem cool. I think your post was smart, well-formatted, and an understandable conclusion given the popular understanding of sex spread through institutions and popular media. I'm just angry that trannies have lied so well, completely, and thoroughly that people have been conned on mass. And how would they know? All the institutions are captured, so any authority they ask will capitulate to the tranny lie instead of doing their job because tenure. Basically, I'm just pissed off because, much like video games and lesbian bars, trannies truly ruin everything, and public scientific literacy and science outreach is just another casualty.

TLDR: "You know what I wish? I wish all of the [trannies who belittle normal people for their "high school" understanding of biology] of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

everyone Ive seen who interact with troons irl always seem either awkward or tend to act the way you do when around children, IYKYK in regards to how women treat children and tards. I feel like whats funny (but also sad) is that an lot of tards in particular aren't even aware of how fake the women are being when talking to them, I guess it ties with not being able to read social cues.

So my (normie) friend, who is a married father with children, doesn't get my hatred of trannies. He seems to think that they're all just variations of Robbie White - dumb faggots that got buckbroken so hard as children through a combination of rape and beatings that they're brains just broke. I ended up showing him a bunch of data that proves trannies are just as (if not significantly more) dangerous than ordinary men (see attachment labelled Evidence and Data on Transwomens Offending Rates), and that ended up changing his mind. Had I not done that, he probably would have continued with the attitude that these people are, as Deermeat said, retards who need to be humoured because they're just so pathetic.

I mean, at this point [lining every trans identified person up and shooting them like in some LiveLeak video] would be a nice bonus...

Too quick. I want every single one of these fuckers to get the symbol of Mars carved into or branded onto their fucking foreheads. I want them to suffer and live with the social shame of being part of this disgusting cult. Like how the Russians hated the Skopsky and how Indians hate hijras for raping, kidnapping, and dissecting children, which is something they both fucking did because eunuchs can't reproduce. Give me tophats, I don't care, these people butcher children.

I'd personally settle for a return to public shaming.

I have seen a couple MtFs walking around on campus and I make sure I make eye contact and laugh at them and usually say something like "Jesus Christ..." walking past.

You are both incredibly cool. My troon-shaming story happened at a store while I was with friends. An employee was a generic 6'3 lanky 20-something gigahon and walking past. I spun around and impulsively yelled "WOAH", and began tapping on my friends and pointing to get their attention. One of my friends was confused, and looking the wrong way, so I missed the dude's reaction. According to my other friend, who did look the right way, the tranny "threw his hands up" as if to ask "what the fuck", scrunched up his face, and made a sharp 90 degree turn into another aisle to hide from me. We later found his Facebook account because of that weird geotracking feature and his profile featured black lipstick and a choker. I was so happy.

Hormones and transitioning help trans people

False. There has never been a single study that proved the effectiveness of transition-as-medicine, or the so-called "Dutch protocol". What we do know? That estrogen and testosterone are carcinogens and testosterone is a teratogen. There's an entire cohort of cancers that are mediated by hormones and are called "hormone-dependent cancers". A common treatment for these cancers are hormone suppressants or steroids. One example is “androgen deprivation therapy” or the removal of the gonads to mediate hormone flux. Men who are treated with testosterone therapeutically suffer elevated risks of cancer, so why would this not apply to women who think they’re men? Or vice versa? We have evidence that trannies have elevated rates of cancer. Here's some fun facts about how, by shilling for hormones, you are "helping" trannies.

Proof that exogenous hormones are dangerous and should be used sparingly:

• Connelly et al. Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy, Vascular Health and Cardiovascular Disease in Transgender Adults (2019).
  • “Existing epidemiological data suggest that the use of estrogens in transgender females confers an increased risk of myocardial infarction and ischemic stroke.
• Liehr. Is Estradiol a Genotoxic Mutagenic Carcinogen? (2000).
  • “In humans, slightly elevated circulating estrogen levels caused either by increased endogenous hormone production or by therapeutic doses of estrogen medications increase breast or uterine cancer risk.”
  • “These data suggest that E2 is a weak carcinogen and weak mutagen capable of inducing genetic lesions with low frequency.
• Key. Hormones and cancer in humans. (1995).
  • “Hormones play a major role in the aetiology of several of the commonest cancers worldwide, including cancers of the endometrium, breast and ovary in women and cancer of the prostate in men. It is likely that the main mechanisms by which hormones affect cancer risk are by controlling the rate of cell division, the differentiation of cells and the number of susceptible cells."
• Henderson. Hormonal carcinogenesis (2000).
  • “Hormone-related cancers, namely breast, endometrium, ovary, prostate, testis, thyroid and osteosarcoma, share a unique mechanism of carcinogenesis. Endogenous and exogenous hormones drive cell proliferation, and thus the opportunity for the accumulation of random genetic errors.”
• McGuire et al. Current status of estrogen and progesterone receptors in breast cancer. (1977).
  • “Breast cancer is often hormone responsive, since growth or regression of tumors can often be modulated by appropriate endocrine manipulations. Estrogen and progesterone appear to be major hormones involved in regulation of breast tumor growth.”
• Osterberg et al. Risks of testosterone replacement therapy in men. (2014).
  • “Any man who has a comorbidity that precludes TRT should be informed of all risks. Factors such as exacerbation of prostate cancer, male breast cancer, worsening benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), polycythemia and an increased risk of obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) should be considered when administering TRT to a patient.
• Blok et al. Breast cancer risk in transgender people receiving hormone treatment: nationwide cohort study in the Netherlands. (2019).
  • “In the 2260 trans women in the cohort, 15 cases of invasive breast cancer were identified (median duration of hormone treatment 18 years, range 7-37 years). This was 46-fold higher than in cisgender men (standardised incidence ratio 46.7, 95% confidence interval 27.2 to 75.4) but lower than in cisgender women (0.3, 0.2 to 0.4). Most tumours were of ductal origin and oestrogen and progesterone receptor positive, and 8.3% were human epidermal growth factor 2 (HER2) positive.”
• Millington et al. A serous borderline ovarian tumour in a transgender male adolescent. (2021).
  • “[T]his is the second report of borderline tumour in a transgender individual and the first in an adolescent, an age group in which borderline tumours are extremely rare. We discuss the specific considerations of treating ovarian tumours in the transgender male population, the incompletely understood role of androgens in the genesis of ovarian epithelial neoplasia”.

Choice Quotes:

• MTFs are 46x more likely to get breast cancer than other men. (Blok et al., see above)
• “Existing epidemiological data suggest that the use of estrogens in transgender females confers an increased risk of myocardial infarction and ischemic stroke.” (Connelly et al., see above)

I'm not going to bother citing this because, unlike the other user, I expect you to call me a faggot and say you're not reading my term paper. That, and I need to get the fuck offline.

 

[⚞⛇⚟]

Even in cases such as CAIS - or complete androgen syndrome - the resulting individual is still male. The androgen insensitivity means that the genetic message struggles to get out, so CAIS males are born with blind pouch pseudo-vaginas and internal testicles - but they're still male and are not the same as females, as I demonstrated in this post. And then I was accused of being the lolcow subject of the thread because if you interrupt the circlejerk and concede a lolcow was ever right about anything ever, you're their alt. However, I'm not the only person to make this point on this website.

Even though people with CAIS are technically biological males, wouldn't it still make sense to treat them as women because without medical intervention they still resemble one, or is there something else that I am missing?

 

[Susanna]

Even though people with CAIS are technically biological males, wouldn't it still make sense to treat them as women because without medical intervention they still resemble one, or is there something else that I am missing?

Yeah, that's what basically everyone does. They develop as women, they're raised as women, and they're pretty much indistinguishable from women in every way. You have to be especially pedantic to consider them men, even if they do have a deformed chromosome.

 

[gnostic dogma]

I am likely stealing from some 60s feminist without knowing who she is

The consquences of the differences in the sexes, over the course of human history, have been reinforced by male physical superiority over wahmen.

I love seeing dworkinism in the wild

 

[Aquarius]

Every faculty members display name has their pronouns, but not a single student did.

That is so nice. And I’m especially happy to hear it’s both young men and women. Usually, in school environments, it’s the boys being a li’l’ bit based for funsies and the girls panicking. Oh, and your username should have you sent to the Hague. Truly wicked energy. It’s you and “Cloaca Rimjob” who have won my black heart.

If I remember correctly Karl Heinrich Ulrichs coined the term and claimed that gay men were “a woman’s soul trapped in a male body.”

I need to stop sneeding, but they basically have remade this with the “brain sex” so-called argument. Basically, if you argue with trannies long enough, they’ll say something like, “uh…but trans people have the same brains as their gender!” Then I’ll start saying that they cannot make a female brain out of male neurons by definition, and then they’ll look at me like I’m speaking Thracian, so I’ll stop. Then I’ll sigh and say, “in this study[1] that you read - but do not remember the name of - did they control for sexual orientation?” And then they’ll look at me like I spoke Thracian backwards and then screamed the true name of the lord, our G-d. They really don’t get that studies on gay dudes in the Philippines don’t apply to Bruce Jenner.

Footnotes[2]:

1. I said study because I was being expedient and they said study. I believe it was a YouTube article, in all likihood. At best, it was a third party website reporting on a review article without experimental data.
2. You read that right.

Butt touching and male masturbation was a problem because it wasted fucking seed.

A girl once told me that, while blowjobs violate Jewish law, cunnilingus does not, for that exact reason.

Lesbians do not have the health consequences for the public that gay/bi men do.

Before AIDS was AIDS, it was GRIDS, which stands for “gay-related immune disorder syndrome”. While extremely funny, it’s also wildly inaccurate for the exact reason you just typed. It wasn’t lesbians who were having anal sex, tearing the mucosa of their colon, and smearing a poz-load on it. It wasn’t closeted lesbians coming home to their boyfriends with HIV. Hell, cheating lesbians weren’t bringing home HIV. In both those cases it was, at best, nothing, because women are more likely to use protection, and, at worst, some shit like HPV. My point is that most of the crisis was because of gay men, bisexual men, and drug addicts of both sexes. Now, let’s see those crime statistics.

(see attachment labelled Evidence and Data on Transwomens Offending Rates),

Whoops! Along with me mixing up their and they’re, I really tossed my puzzle pieces here. See attachment below this post. Aaaaand I got the file name wrong, fuck me sideways. It still counts because this post is still below it. That means you have to be nice to me.

Yeah, that's what basically everyone does. They develop as women, they're raised as women, and they're pretty much indistinguishable from women in every way. You have to be especially pedantic to consider them men, even if they do have a deformed chromosome.

Especially pedantic you say?

Even though people with CAIS are technically biological males, wouldn't it still make sense to treat them as women because without medical intervention they still resemble one, or is there something else that I am missing?

Honestly? I do not care how these people are treated, or about pushing for legislation featuring them. We’re talking about the tiniest minority of a tiny set of general androgen-insensitivity disorders that are part of a tiny set of chromosomal disorders which affect one of 26 chromosome pairs which in turn affect an even tinier portion of the public. I’m not trying to be a jerk here, but it’s very hard for me to care. It all seems like tranny-adjacent “what aboutism”. If you want my opinion on the issue, I’ll give it, but most people who hear my POV on this flip out.

 

[Breadquanda.]

Yeah, that's what basically everyone does. They develop as women, they're raised as women, and they're pretty much indistinguishable from women in every way. You have to be especially pedantic to consider them men, even if they do have a deformed chromosome.

Isn't this the disorder that Imane Khelif had? I can see how raising and treating them as women would cause certain issues.

 

[Susanna]

Isn't this the disorder that Imane Khelif had? I can see how raising and treating them as women would cause certain issues.

Nobody knows what Khelif has, but it’s unlikely to be CAIS. Khelif had elevated testosterone levels (which a CAIS woman could also have), but this clearly gave Khelif an unfair advantage (which a CAIS woman wouldn’t have). CAIS means your body straight up doesn’t process testosterone. Because this is the case even in the womb they don’t develop male sexual organs, and instead develop many features of female sexual organs instead. You could give them all the testosterone in the world and it wouldn’t do a thing.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

I believe in raped/sexually abused to FTM pipeline. I have seen so many example of this to the point where it's a FTM stereotype. Someone posted they were raped or SA'ed online? I click the profile and it's usually some kind of pooner. It's not that I lurk in trans adjacent space but this is a phenomenon happening on completely unrelated places.
I have no further thought on this. I can't really figure a solution to help our raped girl to have a good life but it's not really that things were much better for them before the troon craze.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

A girl once told me that, while blowjobs violate Jewish law, cunnilingus does not, for that exact reason.

I know in ye olde testament times they didn't have much of a grasp on human reproduction except that it required semen going into a woman, but it's amusing, even as a man, that one half of the equation--semen--was treated as a precious commodity instead of something nearly infinitely renewable and frankly embarrassingly abundant compared to the limited supply other half of the equation.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

I know in ye olde testament times they didn't have much of a grasp on human reproduction except that it required semen going into a woman, but it's amusing, even as a man, that one half of the equation--semen--was treated as a precious commodity instead of something nearly infinitely renewable and frankly embarrassingly abundant compared to the limited supply other half of the equation.

Would you give importance to your oven over the pizza you're putting into it? Women are cattle back then.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Would you give importance to your oven over the pizza you're putting into it? Women are cattle back then.

Yes, ovens are much more valuable than pizza. Hence why pizzas cost much less and if you burn one you can just buy a new one while an oven is much more of a pain to replace.

 

[The Silent Perjority]

Yes, ovens are much more valuable than pizza. Hence why pizzas cost much less and if you burn one you can just buy a new one while an oven is much more of a pain to replace.

Too - and indeed - shay.

 

[AI generated waifu]

If you want my opinion on the issue, I’ll give it, but most people who hear my POV on this flip out.

I'm interested in your opinion, especially since I enjoyed your wall of autism. I'm open to changing my mind as well.

I personally don't see them as women because they aren't aren't female, but I have a hard time seeing them as men due to their condition. It's a unique, very rare case in which I can accept them being 'counted' among women except for when their actual sex is relevant, such as for health treatment.

 

[deermeat]

seeing a woman with perfect sized breasts (perky, not small, not too big) who would look amazing if she lost 15 pounds, only for her to ruin her body with T makes me so sad.
Call me deranged but I really dig woman with small breasts and I feel like women who are at this size could've been easy fixer-uppers had they not make themselves into ugly hairy goblins.

Spoiler: hairy booba goblin

She's not too fat to where she is a lost cause and the fact her boobs aren't super big despite the weight means she has naturally small breasts. I keep seeing all the women with small breasts poon out, it sucks. It's one to be fat, it's another to fuck your body up with hormones that makes you hairy and stinky.

 

[AI generated waifu]

seeing a woman with perfect sized breasts (perky, not small, not too big) who would look amazing if she lost 15 pounds, only for her to ruin her body with T makes me so sad.
Call me deranged but I really dig woman with small breasts and I feel like women who are at this size could've been easy fixer-uppers had they not make themselves into ugly hairy goblins.

Spoiler: hairy booba goblin

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She's not too fat to where she is a lost cause and the fact her boobs aren't super big despite the weight means she has naturally small breasts. I keep seeing all the women with small breasts poon out, it sucks. It's one to be fat, it's another to fuck your body up with hormones that makes you hairy and stinky.

She's not even really fat imo.

 

[Jacques1194]

You know, despite all the good news coming out against trans ideology I still hate how my comfort spaces on the internet is crawling with them. Its really crazy how there's like 20 troons in an online space for a show I like. You can't even interact with fans of a show without someone screaming "TRANS RIGHTS"! and posting stupid LGBT headcanons on it. For a group of people that acts like they're fearing for their lives they really are very chronically and vocal online.