Artcow rcdart / Rory Cummings-Dise - Tranny Fetishist who Torpedoed a Potential Animation Career

[Meowthkip]

Spoiler: Powerlevel Ahead

as someone with 3 years of experience in the animation industry Her art is pretty much standard to a lot of hires we have working in our studios. Her style is very derivitive of SoCal queer punk underground artists and has a lot of technical value hiding under the surface

You know how some musical acts will specifically contain elements in their artwork that is purposefully abrasive for the sake of alienating outsider groups (think Velvet Underground and Big Black)? This is that same concept. Most of you come from high or middle class families (theres absoluetly nothing wrong with this) but you also have to realize this is coming from an influience of traditionally overlooked or underrepresented groups in america, and that's not something you're going to find aesthetically pleasing at first glance.

You know, you have a point, but I think you neglect that Rory herself is from an upper-middle class background (her moms are both doctors) and isn't from SoCal and isn't even punk; she has a good grasp on art but her attempt at purposely uglifying things is performative. It's ugly, but it's also very surface level. It's a very lazy kind of ugly and the thing is, I'm not sure how intentional it is.

I've defended Rebecca Sugar's art style in this very thread as being a very purposeful kind of ugly that manages to have appeal. Rory's definitely aping Sugar's style, but it's the watered-down Sugar from Steven Universe, which ironically enough is made to look more cutesy and simplified than Sugar's usual work.

I certainly appreciate your challenging of the echo chamber in this thread but I do think there is some merit in saying that her artwork is rather slipshod, and I think that has a lot to do with her ego. It's caused her work to stagnate in some uncomfortable place between cutesy and ugly that fails to be ugly-cute but isn't ugly enough to really stand on its own legs. It just comes across as crude and unfinished. Rory is still trying to suss out her style but she acts as though she's already perfected it and takes criticism of her work very poorly.

I'd also argue that her exaggeration of racial stereotypes could be pulled off, but she's not exactly R. Crumb here. She's not presenting them in a grotesque way to make the viewer uncomfortable, she's doing it as a genuine attempt at appearing "progressive," and then slinking off when the very people she's trying to appeal to think her depictions are offensive.

TL;DR it's pretty much her attitude and the way she presents herself and her art that's getting her this kind of backlash more than anything else.

 

[SHSL Mistake]

I think some of the people here kinda forget that Rory doesn't have a thread here because they have a weird art style: They have a thread here because they're a rude, pretentious brat who doesn't listen to valid criticism and tries so hard to be progressive that it loops back around into minstrel cartoon territory. If they weren't like this, I seriously doubt anyone here would have given them the time of day.

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

I think some of the people here kinda forget that Rory doesn't have a thread here because they have a weird art style: They have a thread here because they're a rude, pretentious brat who doesn't listen to valid criticism and tries so hard to be progressive that it loops back around into minstrel cartoon territory. If they weren't like this, I seriously doubt anyone here would have given them the time of day.

This, again. The only reason Rory has a thread here is because she's a terrible human being. If she was posting racist caricatures or trans fetish art and was honest about her content, she probably wouldn't have her own thread. She might have shown up once or twice in a personal lolcow thread, but there wouldn't be enough content to sustain a 150+ page discussion about how terrible she is. The disconnect between her ugly, lazy art and her pretentious personality is where the lols are. We're laughing at a rich, self-righteous white girl posting blackface fetish porn.

We've all agreed that Rory has a solid grasp of fundamentals. Meowthkip posted it a lot better than I could have. There is also a lot of bitter whining in this thread that she was able to get into a prestigious art school. I think this has more to do with her being ungrateful, hypocritical, and arrogant than it does with being a legitimate criticism of her work. Her personality is making her work suffer. I feel bad for the other CalArts students who work hard everyday to become better artists and animators.

There are a lot of great artists here who post under fake names so their shitposting doesn't negatively impact their professional life.

 

[Vandy]

has a lot of technical value hiding under the surface

BITCH WHERE
They throw out any technical value in their "style", that's why it looks so exceptional. There's no structure, no consistency (unless you consider offensively shaped blobs, which is definitely a constant theme in their art.)

The thing about breaking the rules after you know them only applies when you're still taking them into consideration, not doing basic ass shaped same face insulting caricatures.

/edited for clarification

 

[Tlazolli]

BITCH WHERE
They throw out any technical value in their "style", that's why it looks so exceptional. There's no structure, no consistency (unless you consider offensively shaped blobs, which is definitely a constant theme in their art.)

The thing about knowing the rules before you break them only applies when you're still taking them into consideration, not doing basic ass shaped same face insulting caricatures.

Her Calarts portfolio was kinda good, but I still think the parents bribed the school lol

 

[Meowthkip]

BITCH WHERE
They throw out any technical value in their "style", that's why it looks so exceptional. There's no structure, no consistency (unless you consider offensively shaped blobs, which is definitely a constant theme in their art.)

The thing about knowing the rules before you break them only applies when you're still taking them into consideration, not doing basic ass shaped same face insulting caricatures.

Her self portraits and animal studies show that she does, in fact, have a lot of technical skill. Again, the problem is that she is lazy and veers towards style over substance.

Her quick life studies she's done have some wonky anatomy but they also manage to "pop" more visually than her cartoons. Honestly, I think she'd be better suited to illustration than cartooning.

But hey, that's just like, my opinion, man.

 

[morninghomo]

Rory tries too hard to have a unique style, and they love this style they have rn so much they're trying to do it even harder, referencing from their own art and reducing the style into its uniqueness and forgetting WHAT they're drawing

 

[IvanaHumpalot]

This, again. The only reason Rory has a thread here is because she's a terrible human being. If she was posting racist caricatures or trans fetish art and was honest about her content, she probably wouldn't have her own thread. She might have shown up once or twice in a personal lolcow thread, but there wouldn't be enough content to sustain a 150+ page discussion about how terrible she is. The disconnect between her ugly, lazy art and her pretentious personality is where the lols are. We're laughing at a rich, self-righteous white girl posting blackface fetish porn.

We've all agreed that Rory has a solid grasp of fundamentals. Meowthkip posted it a lot better than I could have. There is also a lot of bitter whining in this thread that she was able to get into a prestigious art school. I think this has more to do with her being ungrateful, hypocritical, and arrogant than it does with being a legitimate criticism of her work. Her personality is making her work suffer. I feel bad for the other CalArts students who work hard everyday to become better artists and animators.

There are a lot of great artists here who post under fake names so their shitposting doesn't negatively impact their professional life.

I personally follow one of Rory's colleagues (we mentioned her some pages ago in this thread (EDIT: ok, I'm sure those posts were now in other thread, disregard this)) and that girl is everything opposite of Rory: she's not a bitch to her followers, she's not rude or egotistical and it seems she's genuine about her art, even though her art is also some shades of weird. I dare to say her style isn't even influenced by CalArts and likes of Rebbeca Sugar, but some older cartoonists/illustrators and her art doesnt suffer of pastel/blob shit.

So yeah, in the end, this thread is not about is whether CalArts shit or not, or does Rory have a talent or not. Point is, Rory is huge bitch and I'd personally want to see her smacked down a couple of steps in hope she'd learn her lesson, but we have yet to see that.

 

[morninghomo]

I personally follow one of Rory's colleagues

i wasnt here for that, mind linking me to any of her social media? id love to see her art

 

[IvanaHumpalot]

i wasnt here for that, mind linking me to any of her social media? id love to see her art

Here you go!

 

[morninghomo]

Here you go!

wow her art is... interesting
its not to my taste but its def meant to provoke a certain feeling
w how more intentionally "ugly" and surreal it is id say SHE comes closer to what rebecca sugar did than rory can ever attempt

 

[Tlazolli]

wow her art is... interesting
its not to my taste but its def meant to provoke a certain feeling
w how more intentionally "ugly" and surreal it is id say SHE comes closer to what rebecca sugar did than rory can ever attempt

Rory’s art is just ugly cartoon tits and thicc and beef, it’s very blatant she just uses her art as a masturbation aid while claiming it’s progressive. Case in point, most of her sketches and doodles consist of characters flexing and posing like in pinups.

 

[SHSL Mistake]

I think the difference with this sort of style is that the ugliness seems a bit more... genuine? It feels like an intentional choice, rather than just laziness or refusal to learn. And while there is a lot of diversity in the characters, it feels natural. They look like people you'd see on the street (albeit with exaggerated proportions), not at all like Rory's forced "this is what diversity looks like" mess.

 

[PeckingOrder]

I’m really liking this girl’s work. As others have said, the “ugliness” and simplicity of it feel a lot more genuine and natural compared to Rory’s work. It’s an appealing sort of ugliness, you can tell this girl understands the principles of anatomy and works off it to create something visually consistent. Rory just draws whatever her fetish is and doesn’t give two shits whether it makes sense to other viewers.

 

[Rayemond46]

Her art feels like something out of some kids storybook. I really dig this style alot. Feels like there's alot of heart behind her art while Rory's art has no heart at all, they're just soulless.

 

[morninghomo]

rory doesnt draw to make good art, im convinced they only draw to show how good their art IS
theyre just too proud of this talent everyone told em they have back in grade school
which is also why they dont experiment or leave their comfort zone

 

[Tlazolli]

rory doesnt draw to make good art, im convinced they only draw to show how good their art IS
theyre just too proud of this talent everyone told em they have back in grade school
which is also why they dont experiment or leave their comfort zone

And to masturbate

 

[Cheap Sandals]

I'll tell you why I don't buy the idea that Rory is a LIL PICASSO: only SOME of her realistic stuff is 'good', and the stuff that's really good looks traced from a photo. When she tries to do figure studies, we've all seen the hot mess. Club feet, zero line of motion, and inconsistent facial features.

That self-portrait where she's holding the cat is a good example of something that looks traced.

One of my hobbies is painting. Like really painting with actual canvas and gesso and the like. And when I was younger, it was easy to shit out hyper-accurate portraits by using a 35$ light projector. So the fact that she can do her own face on large canvases, but can't do consistent faces on paper or on tablet, tells me something. That she's not actually Just Like Picasso (what the fuck).

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I'll eat my fucking socks if these weren't 'assisted' by floating the photo overtop at half opacity. That cat ffs.

 

[OngoGablogian]

Hi. I'm another cretin that decided to make an account after reading all 150+ pages of this hell thread.

I'll tell you why I don't buy the idea that Rory is a good artist: only SOME of her realistic stuff is 'good', and the stuff that's really good looks traced from a photo. When she tries to do figure studies, we've all seen the hot mess. Club feet, zero line of motion, and inconsistent facial features.

Wanted to chime in to say that this is what I've been feeling every time some comments on how she's "got the basics down" or "great at realism". I don't think her self portraits are traced, but they're definitely copied from photographs - which, while having an understanding of anatomy/proportion/etc. helps, is mostly about being able to copy lines and shapes correctly. I'm yet to see a single 'realism' picture other than the self portraits in her portfolio that aren't FULL of awful anatomy and proportions.

(First post sorry if I've somehow fucked up formatting)

 

[fishercat]

Hi. I'm another cretin that decided to make an account after reading all 150+ pages of this hell thread.



Wanted to chime in to say that this is what I've been feeling every time some comments on how she's "got the basics down" or "great at realism". I don't think her self portraits are traced, but they're definitely copied from photographs - which, while having an understanding of anatomy/proportion/etc. helps, is mostly about being able to copy lines and shapes correctly. I'm yet to see a single 'realism' picture other than the self portraits in her portfolio that aren't FULL of awful anatomy and proportions.

(First post sorry if I've somehow fucked up formatting)

Yeah, her studies from earlier in this thread were lumpy and deformed to all hell. Not buying her portraits not being traced though. The difference is a bit too large.