READ BEFORE POSTING: DSP Board Information - (FAQs, Moderation and shit)

[Done]

"we'll see a lot of growth here"
Be careful what you wish for. We could end up with a fully matured gout infection if we're not careful.

Stoopid detractors! Gout is not an infection you idiots! ACK ACK ACK ACK!

But yeah, I do agree with the main thread split, it helps a lot with post referrals.

But I think there needs to be some form of discussion here on the format of the daily updates. Because while some things are easy to do (For example, tweets or King of Hate vlogs), the daily gaming stream discussions may need a different approach from Chris or Amberlynn boards because they are part of a larger thing, so to speak.

I will posting here later with a more detailed proposal because I'm on mobile at the moment.

 

[Xerxes IX]

I think having separate "Phil's twitter" and "Phil's prestreams" threads would be a big help. Leave the stickied thread for general DSP discussion and these threads for focused discussion on whatever he said on twitter/stream.

 

[Le Redditeur Part Deux]

You should run any changes to the original thread with Null first - I'm sure there are SEO implications in making any changes to it at this point. I remember he vetoed breaking the thread when it reached page one thousand because of that.

 

[neger psykolog]

You should run any changes to the original thread with Null first - I'm sure there are SEO implications in making any changes to it at this point. I remember he vetoed breaking the thread when it reached page one thousand because of that.

Yeah that was a potential negative I forgot to mention. In general when you make drastic changes to huge threads it takes Google ages to catch up and people using da google to search will end up with a lot of 404 errors. Unless we just archive the megathread and then copy from it to the new threads, but that'd probably eat up massive database space for no good reason.

 

[Done]

After giving it some thought, I think we need to disentangle the main DSP thread to its main components, the main challenge here comes from his main medium of choice, Twitch, as it involves multiple forms of communication that blend together into one (Text in the stream chat, tips/cheers get verbal replies during stream..etc.). my suggestions on how we handle each are in BLUE:

1. Pre-Stream/Ask the King/The Hateful Truth/DSP Tries it: I pooled those together in one category, because they all feature some personal insight into Phil's depressing IRL life, they also focus entirely on him and are all in video form, rather than some game stream where he's tucked out in the corner. Those should get separate threads & a similar treatment to CWC's Youtube videos/Patreon updates in terms of naming conventions & so forth as they provide the most frequent content that warrants separate threads.
   
2. Twitter/FB/Instagram/General Social Networks Content: Those are pooled together As they involve similar forms of content all delivered almost exclusively via social networks in text/still picture format. IMO, those would benefit the most from getting one unified thread, similar the the Random Chris Updates thread. Because each piece of content from this category just isn't enough to hold a thread together. I want to say that big events should warrant their own threads similar to the CWC forum, but DSP is constantly in crisis mode, and it is highly debatable which of his crises deserve a thread or not.
3. The King of Hate Forum Content: Pretty self explanatory, this is one of my favorite sources of content as it gives us an insight into the minds that fund Phil's life, including the short-lived revolutions that rock the Gout Kingdom. I would MAYBE suggest combining it with a general White Knight thread, as there are quite a few who post there with no threads of their own (Like Amityville for example), and it would be a nice counterpart to the general A-Logs thread. If not, then we just make 2 separate threads.
4. Daily Gaming Streams & Chats @ Twitch: This is what Phil spends most of his time on, and IMO, the most problematic content to moderate, I would suggest a general gaming stream discussion thread, but that would just turn into general discussion 2.0. My personal suggestion would be to make a weekly or monthly gaming streams thread, which would close once the titled time period ends. Another alternative is to group things by the games themselves (e.g. Mario Odyssey thread for that game's streams's discussions), but that creates the problem of requiring the mods to become the content librarians, sorting discussions into their little boxes, which can get bothersome.

One more thing, regarding the current general thread dilemma, one alternative is to close it at the end of the year, change the subtitle (I believe this wouldn't affect the thread titles and subsequently, the SEOs) to indicate that this is an archive. The closing post can have a version of the yearly categorization I provided, or alternatively, it could replace the 1st post, which itself can be replaced by @RIP_SANITY & @neger psykolog's planned new guide to Phil.

I hope this proves helpful..

 

[Xerxes IX]

The closing post can have a version of the yearly categorization I provided, or alternatively, it could replace the 1st post, which itself can be replaced by @RIP_SANITY & @neger psykolog's planned new guide to Phil.

Perhaps have an "if you're new to Phil start here" sticky? That links the yearly categorization, a summary of what happened during those times, and then links to the other threads you mentioned. And a random thoughts and questions thread for all the general/minor/'phil is fat and has gout and leanna cucked him' posts.

EDIT: i went ahead and made the thread if only for containment. sometimes the main thread gets clogged by a bunch of gout/leanna/SNORT jokes that provide no useful commentary and make it hard to follow.

 

[KingjadVCMP]

Holy shit, I'm finally in another topic on this site! Structure is good but will take some getting used to.

 

[James Smith]

One thing I'm apprehensive about is that the megathread allowed me to follow one thread to see what's going on. For those of you with experience with the subforum lolcow stuf how will that change?

 

[DSPGouting]

I gotta be honest, I do enjoy my morning ritual which is: wake up, read through latest pages on the megathread, listen to the latest snort burnell in the shower, hit the gym.

I'd find it a little inconvenient to search through sub forums and threads etc, I just like getting my updates on the last 2/3 pages of the mega thread, but hey it's not my choice tbh

 

[neger psykolog]

I gotta be honest, I do enjoy my morning ritual which is: wake up, read through latest pages on the megathread, listen to the latest snort burnell in the shower, hit the gym.

I'd find it a little inconvenient to search through sub forums and threads etc, I just like getting my updates on the last 2/3 pages of the mega thread, but hey it's not my choice tbh

Just to mirror what I said in the megathread, its nothing final at this stage. It's purely an experiment for a day or whatever to see how things go, all feedback is helpful so that is good to know and I kinda agree on that, the megathread is nice in some ways, but terrible in others (mainly that stuff gets reposted 3-4 times because people don't want to read back a few pages back)

 

[scipio777]

I gotta be honest, I do enjoy my morning ritual which is: wake up, read through latest pages on the megathread, listen to the latest snort burnell in the shower, hit the gym.
I'd find it a little inconvenient to search through sub forums and threads etc, I just like getting my updates on the last 2/3 pages of the mega thread, but hey it's not my choice tbh

Honestly I have to agree. Megathread let me be a lurker and read through a few pages once maybe twice a day. I'd rather not end up having to go to 2-3 different threads to find the interesting stuff for the day.

 

[James Smith]

I think the proposal of having categories is a good idea. I hope it doesn't become more than a handful of threads so it stays easy to follow.

 

[neger psykolog]

We could play with the idea of just having a DSP general streaming/prestream thread and then have separate threads for things like the forums and other social media updates. It doesn't have to be 1000 separate threads like chrischan, and it doesn't have to be 2-3 threads, perhaps the best way is to just see how things go organically and adapt with it.

Also just to clarify, I know people enjoy the prestream breakdowns I do however I'm not always available to do them because I have other shit to do, and listening to Phil talking about something for 2 hours straight when it could be summarized in 13 seconds sadly isn't the biggest priority for me. I'll try to make breakdowns for the next few days to get things going, but I won't always be doing them, if there isn't a thread for some particular event/whatever then you can always make one.

 

[DarkSydePundit]

The DSP Megathead wasn’t broken, it desperately just needed a updated OP, maybe with weekly Updates like in that ‘Random Chris Updates’ OP.

Don’t fix what ain’t broken.

I liked it better when we were a group of autistic people discussing DSP in one thread.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

So if the megathread gets streamlined and other threads take on a good amount of the traffic, what type of discussion would end up in the remaining megathread?

 

[neger psykolog]

So if the megathread gets streamlined and other threads take on a good amount of the traffic, what type of discussion would end up in the remaining megathread?

That's a pretty good question. With the amount of attention the megathread receives its pretty impossible to accurately determine what would happen. I think it has a really good place and demand to exist, especially for just discussing general day-to-day stuff, but the other threads probably would never manage to take over from that but I think if balanced right the other threads could be a useful way to compliment the megathread without killing it off or changing it much.

 

[Xerxes IX]

I would preserve the megathread's original OP because it kind of captures the evolution of what makes DSP a cow: back then the main funny things were him being a retard and horrible at video games, but since he doesn't do that anymore thanks to streamchat now it's about him being a delusional egomaniac who ebegs and won't give up his sad lonely lifestyle.

Also the Random Thoughts and Quesitons thread I made was meant to capture the general chitchat – but I see everyone is used to posting in the main DSP thread.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

Something that might be good to go along with the timeline @RIP_SANITY is making (if he hasn't thought of it first) is to make some links to the appropriate sections of the megathread where some events took place (such as jerking off on stream, John and Howards discussion of phil, etc.) allowing users to easily revisit them a la

2013: [1-15] (#1 to #291)
2014: [15-58] (#292 to #1158)
2015: [58-278] (#1159 to #5541)
2016: [278-878] (#5542 to #17553)
2017: [878-now] (#17554 to current)

This could serve to be a good tool for the uninitiated to be able to get caught up in just about everything of relevance to phil without have to slog through various 1700+ pages.

This doesn't even necessarily have to be done by one person, we could even have a single thread dedicated to this and just have posts cite sections at their leisure to have it added to the OP.

 

[RIP_SANITY]

I haven't thought of that. I'll see if I'll add it later.
I want to make the document also a good guideline or hell a good template for updating DSP's lolcow wiki page as that too is seriously outdated.

 

[James Smith]

One part of the difficult thing is that sometimes you don't know what will generate a lot of discussion until after it's already generated that discussion.

It would be amazing if stuff could be sorted after, like some kind of biography but there's too many posts.