Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Randall Fragg]

Do the trains warp pipes run on time?

>thinking that Bob could get anything to run on time
Also holy shit, long time no see man.

 

[Flexo]

Scorsese compared them to theme park rides, and said he didn't consider them "cinema." Which is a fair consideration, I think, when you think about the levels of film making. This was discussed way back on a thread at Ace of Spades HQ:
So in Scorsese's mind, the Marvel movies and most other comic book movies are basically on the level of flick or movie. Now there are some in my opinion that do aim to reach above that level though - Captain America: Winter Soldier and Civil War are in my view movies that try to reach the level of film, and on the DC side of things, The Dark Knight Trilogy and Joker are films that try to reach the level of cinema. But overall, I agree with Scorsese's assessment - at the end of the day these are popcorn movies. That doesn't make them bad movies, nor does it make it wrong for you to really enjoy them or try to analyze them. But you need keep perspective on them with regards to other films and film-making as an art form. Which means that, no, Black Panther does not deserve to be considered Best Picture material.

I like that.

I think it would actually do the Oscars a lot of good if they had "best flick of the year" and "best movie" etc. All 4 categories each with a selection for best.

I mean there are several Oscar winners I wouldn't put near as "best cinema" but I could see as "best film" or definitely "best movie." Black Panther is definitely a "best flick" contender... maybe stretching to movie.

Would solve a lot of things about the Oscars, really.

BREAKING! BREAKING!
Covid has claimed another!

Spoiler: Bob wept when there were no more spergs to fight

https://twitter.com/RAZ0RFIST

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Notice that it says the account doesn't exist rather than suspended. Whatever could've caused Bob's nemesis to dfe?
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And no this is not an edit

https://twitter.com/not__vee/status/1362101430736343051

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Will Bob smuckle over his defeated foe? Will he be, as in all things, humble with his passing? Will he not even notice because he's to busy jerking off in solidarity to lesbian and/or troon porn? This just happened minutes ago so only time will tell.

Bob can't say too much because Raz0r has actually had a girl.

Wish fulfillment. They think that since they're the conquering hero in the game that they'll be that way if they isekai. In reality, without some kind of magic or something they'd still be shlubby NEETs with bad eyesight and no people skills, so they'd be worse off than the average peasant 11 times out of 5.

*cough* Re: Zero.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I like that.

I think it would actually do the Oscars a lot of good if they had "best flick of the year" and "best movie" etc. All 4 categories each with a selection for best.

I mean there are several Oscar winners I wouldn't put near as "best cinema" but I could see as "best film" or definitely "best movie." Black Panther is definitely a "best flick" contender... maybe stretching to movie.

I'm not really a movie guy and don't care much about superhero stuff one way or the other, but I SOMEWHAT agree with Bob on this one. Well, more like I disagree with Scorsese. There's a strong tendency for the Hollywood "elite" and their ballwashers to think that only fart huffing angstfests count as "real" movies. Why should that be?

 

[Flexo]

The thing I like about the anime, The Twelve Kingdoms is that it takes a girl from the real world, sticks her in a fantasy world, gives her superpowers, and she still fucks up. It takes her a long time to get her act together. Also one of the people who accidentally gets sucked into the fantasy world with her dies, horribly and pointlessly. It's rare that you'll get an Isekai that actually tries to be realistic in how screwed a person from the modern would would be in anything other than a modern world.

I can never get past the first episode of that series. I just hate the main character so much.

It's not that I expect her to be an instant badass, they just took it to the far opposite extreme where she is SO anti-self preservation I wanted her wish to be granted and to die.

That sounds interesting, I wish we got more anime like that. Something used with an unexpected twist.

Oh there's plenty out there. Just watch any of Gigguk's "[season] [year] anime in a nutshell" videos. (i.e. "Winter 2020 anime in a nutshell")

Heck awhile back there was "devil is a part timer" which is a a reverse Isekai where the evil overlord villain of a fantasy world lands in ours and has to get a job at McDonald's.

What? Is he saying that you have to be a leftist to be good? In short, is he saying that he is a better guy than, say, St Theresa of Calcutta?

Oh... you haven't seen the efforts of the Left to point out how evil Theresa was?

I'm not really a movie guy and don't care much about superhero stuff one way or the other, but I SOMEWHAT agree with Bob on this one. Well, more like I disagree with Scorsese. There's a strong tendency for the Hollywood "elite" and their ballwashers to think that only fart huffing angstfests count as "real" movies. Why should that be?

Oh quite. There's a reason this:

Is one of the funniest sketches ever made - because the Academy seems to give the award to the same. damn. movie. every year.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Oh... you haven't seen the efforts of the Left to point out how evil Theresa was?

I know, and as always with these things Christopher Hitchens is leading the charge.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

Because Conservatives weren't dancing on Ruth's grave. The Progressive Left, however, takes every opportunity to engage in grave-dancing. I remember when Thatcher died, the cry of the Left was "Ding dong, the witch is dead!"

this was certainly true of internet spergs, but the councils in the areas most blighted by her government's Blitzkrieg on political opposition (e.g. the forced abolishment of metropolitan county councils, because their resistance to central government was too strong) took the most sensible and dignified position of all: they just didn't acknowledge it
while London was in mourning, it was just another ordinary day in much of Yorkshire, Derbyshire, north Nottinghamshire and south Wales

 

[make_it_so]

Considering how much of Bob's hatred and misanthropy stem from his eternal virginity, how differently might Bobert have turned out if Fatty Patty had thrown him a pity fuck back in high school?

Hard disagree - the kind of vile hatred that Blobbert spews is the kind that I don't think could've been cured/prevented by sex. Plus if it was a "pity fuck" there's the risk that it would've made Bob even more resentful because it would mean his losing his virginity was out of sympathy rather than any genuine love, passion, or raw sexual power that he posses. Not that he would have the self awareness to recognize that, though.

Plus, Chris shares a lot of the same hateful politics as Bob, and we know he's had sex at least twice.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Chris shares a lot of the same hateful politics as Bob, and we know he's had sex at least twice.

Yeah.

The problem isn't sex, it's Bob and Chris' frame of mind.

 

[EnemyStand]

I like that.

I think it would actually do the Oscars a lot of good if they had "best flick of the year" and "best movie" etc. All 4 categories each with a selection for best.

I mean there are several Oscar winners I wouldn't put near as "best cinema" but I could see as "best film" or definitely "best movie." Black Panther is definitely a "best flick" contender... maybe stretching to movie.

Would solve a lot of things about the Oscars, really.

It would which is why they won't do it. The Academy is nothing more than octogenarians who are high on their own farts and sell their votes to the highest bidder. It's a grift.

Bob can't say too much because Raz0r has actually had a girl.

*cough* Re: Zero.

Re:Zero? Where the loser protagonist can't die, constantly commits Seinfeld level faux-pas and yet gets two super cute non-human girls after his cock and is treated as an amusing curiosity at worst by the people in power? That Re:Zero?

 

[Smithfield Ham]

What ideologue would Bob dystopia have?

Bob's own ideology is a combination of Randian Objectivism and Neoliberalism, and though he'll never admit it to anyone, including himself, also fascism. Using a neologism like "SuperiorFuturism" is fitting.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Funny you say that, because the last two major theatrical movies about king Arthur pretty much ignore the "Elephant in the room" about the Camelot legends, that is the afair between Lancelot and Guinevere, who did that aware and willingly of their betrayal, that was the starting point for the fall of Camelot's dream.

I always figured the real issue with a serious contemporary Arthurian movie would be the decidedly unserious specter of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Using a neologism like "SuperiorFuturism" is fitting.

Especially given that the Italian futurists were fascists.

 

[Flexo]

It would which is why they won't do it. The Academy is nothing more than octogenarians who are high on their own farts and sell their votes to the highest bidder. It's a grift.

True dat.

Re:Zero? Where the loser protagonist can't die, constantly commits Seinfeld level faux-pas and yet gets two super cute non-human girls after his cock and is treated as an amusing curiosity at worst by the people in power? That Re:Zero?

I mean the anime where dying is the hero's literal power as it's all he's good at.

Like the wizard of Oz joke goes - it all depends on how you frame it.

 

[MK-Ultra test experiment]

I mean the anime where dying is the hero's literal power as it's all he's good at.

All You Need Is Kill is basically that, but I think the are Isekai light novels that have that as a gimmick as well (albeit those suck).

Also, another thing I find interesting about Bob scientific illiteracy is how bad his understanding of the sheer importance of underling engineering aspect of tech and how it is very reliant on experienced human personal familiar with it (how reliant, you ask? In the 2000s the USA forgot how to make a particular model of nuclear warheads because the a crucial component of the warheads relied on a highly specific material that the engineers that produced it never bothered to neither write down how exactly to produce it or train new personal, so when they retired things went sideways).

 

[Fictional Character]

I always figured the real issue with a serious contemporary Arthurian movie would be the decidedly unserious specter of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Excalibur came out after Monty Python's Holy Grail, so a serious Arthurian movie can be made.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

There's a strong tendency for the Hollywood "elite" and their ballwashers to think that only fart huffing angstfests count as "real" movies. Why should that be?

The Hollywood elite tend more towards "This year, this is good because we fucking say it is good". The rationale they use changes every year, so it winds up being arbitrary.

But superhero movies are fast food meals produced at haute cuisine prices. They should have half of the bullshit necessary to produce Captain Amazeballs: Search For the Cumsock procedurally generated by this point - scripts, CGI, casting. The world's most shortbus AI should be able to act as an EP for a Marvel movie. Somehow, they are still incredibly spendy to make, and that's the real failure of Disney.

Scorcese is right but he should have just called them two hour television episodes.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

I can't help but feel like if you actually applied Bob's worldviews to a real government it would turn into a Hodge-podge of all the most grim, bleak dystopian settings ever. The military would be Starship Troopers, constantly going all around the universe to "fix" everything with violence, the police forces would be the Gestapo hunting down wrongthinkers and poor people, rich people would be the fat humans from Wall-E, poor people used for slave labor or turned into soylent green, and all media would either be pacifying brainrot or blatant propaganda, making the home society a blend of 1984 and Brave New World.

Bob's pitch for a "fixed" Terminator movie tells it all: he sees dystopian fiction and thinks "well, if we just did it the right way this would be paradise!"

 

[Tactical Wizard]

I can't help but feel like if you actually applied Bob's worldviews to a real government it would turn into a Hodge-podge of all the most grim, bleak dystopian settings ever. The military would be Starship Troopers, constantly going all around the universe to "fix" everything with violence, the police forces would be the Gestapo hunting down wrongthinkers and poor people, rich people would be the fat humans from Wall-E, poor people used for slave labor or turned into soylent green, and all media would either be pacifying brainrot or blatant propaganda, making the home society a blend of 1984 and Brave New World.

And we’d all be living in hell’s cape mega cities where the buildings block out the sun, surrounded by kudzu choked Mad Max country.

 

[Kabuki Actor]

Bob's pitch for a "fixed" Terminator movie tells it all: he sees dystopian fiction and thinks "well, if we just did it the right way this would be paradise!"

And the reverse statement is the whole point of the genre.
Superior future came first. Dystopia was invented in response to it.

 

[BScCollateral]

There's a strong tendency for the Hollywood "elite" and their ballwashers to think that only fart huffing angstfests count as "real" movies. Why should that be?

At some level this is about definitions.

I think "cinema" is a medium. Star Wars, Taxi Driver, 2001, and Plan Nine from Outer Space are all cinema. Therefore, I disagree with Scorsese.

However, that's not his point. He's talking about the quality of movies, and while I agree with his points, I also think it's subjective. Splitting them into four categories is interesting, but it's also ambiguous. At some point, it will degenerate into "I like it, so it's Cinema," making the exercise dubious.