Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

How will Bob react to seeing the Mario film?


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Now I wonder what he would be like HAD gaming evolved in a way he approved. Somehow being even more insufferable? *shudder*

I honestly don't think it could evolve to his desires, he'd be unhappy if 2d platformers had maintained the status quo. Looking at his rage at gamers over cuphead it shows a man whose fundemently unable to be happy even when everything he 'wants' was handed to him on a silver platter
 
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Reminder movie bob believes donkey kong was a success because it was "the first narratively driven game"
WTF! Beside being blatantly untrue, Ultima for one example. How the hell is Donkey Kong "Narratively Driven"? By that logic Pac Man is a narrative driven game or really any Arcade game. Seriously Bob is the Fanboy even other Fanboy's cringe at.
 
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As i wrote in my notes on the book "For the first time a video game's characters and story were being developed before the interface was". As @BR55 pointed out the ultima series had way deeper narrative than donkey kong as did a dozen other pc adventure games lost to time. The core of his point seems to be the game was interpreting miyamoto's art whereas most arcade art was just taking a stab at what the artist thinks the graphics meant, but I really doubt donkey kong was the first to do it or that it had a major impact on plays.
 
Another variation on the theme of tactics-targets:

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People risking life and limb to preserve their way of life is now "temper tantrums" to Bobby:

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I have no idea what he means by "Shakespeare's shared universe", considering many of Shakespeare's plays aren't even set in England:

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Of course he likes Thor: Ragnarok, but I suspect for all the wrong reasons.

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Bobby said:
So, hey. #ThorRagnorak Review coming close to release. For now: Another big, big winner. Best of the series, easily. Real fun, real heart. Idea that it's "too light" betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of personal vs meta-narrative dramatic stakes. Not a "comedy", just exactly as "serious" as you can be about magical space-vikings without tipping over into turgid, unintended self-parody. NOT comparable to GOTG in tone or style, other than "involves spaceships." Very unique, but compares more to PACIFIC RIM than other Marvels. It's doing it's own thing. It's no more a "spoof" than the Lee/Kirby comics were of actual Norse mythology.

It's a top 10, easily. Not sure about Top 5.
 
There's no "magic" in the Thor movies unlike the comics. That was a plot point stated multiple times in the first two. They're sci-fi aliens early Europeans confused for gods.

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People risking life and limb to preserve their way of life is now "temper tantrums" to Bobby:

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Part of me still wishes we could deport Bob.

I have no idea what he means by "Shakespeare's shared universe", considering many of Shakespeare's plays aren't even set in England:

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I think he's trying to say that Shakespeare is an example of a fictional shared universe just on the basis on having the same creator and possibly not contradicting each other if you're autistic enough to try to map them out.
 
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There's no "magic" in the Thor movies unlike the comics. That was a plot point stated multiple times in them.
Somewhat:offtopic: Honestly without the Magical/Divine elements what is even the point of Thor? The MCU ditching that stuff just makes the Thor movies feel so generic. Not that Bob gives a fuck though. The Marvel logo alone is more than worth the price of admission for him.
 
Somewhat:offtopic: Honestly without the Magical/Divine elements what is even the point of Thor? The MCU ditching that stuff just makes the Thor movies feel so generic. Not that Bob gives a fuck though. The Marvel logo alone is more than worth the price of admission for him.
They wanted a more unified theme connecting the movies. If you'll notice all the original Avengers in the MCU were tied to the idea of technological advancement. Iron Man is self explanatory, Captain America's origin was rewritten to add Howard Stark building a machine to make him, Hulk was rewritten into being a failed Super Soldier connecting him to that, Hawkeye and Black Widow were both written as SHIELD agents which was started by Howard. Thor would've sticked out so they rewrote him as part of an alien species who's abandoned tech on Earth was one of seeds for all this happening. Even the later stuff is generally connected to Stark or his dad.

Personally I'm not a fan of writing something in that way. They've seemed to have lightened up a bit on it with Dr. Strange.
 
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Somewhat:offtopic: Honestly without the Magical/Divine elements what is even the point of Thor? The MCU ditching that stuff just makes the Thor movies feel so generic. Not that Bob gives a fuck though. The Marvel logo alone is more than worth the price of admission for him.
What makes it even more weird is that years later they've totally embraced the whole magic\mystical side of Marvel with stuff like Dr. Strange and Iron Fist.

There's no "magic" in the Thor movies unlike the comics. That was a plot point stated multiple times in the first two. They're sci-fi aliens early Europeans confused for gods.


Part of me still wishes we could deport Bob.


I think he's trying to say that Shakespeare is an example of a fictional shared universe just on the basis on having the same creator and possibly not contradicting each other if you're autistic enough to try to map them out.

They also miss the point by ignoring that most characters in Shakespeare plays are supposed to be historical figures, so no shit they "share the same universe", not to mention there barely being any recurring characters in said plays, the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Falstaff. A lot better example would've been any ancient mythology or folklore with recurring figures. They also could've mentioned Honoré de Balzac, one of the big daddies of Realist novels, who is well known for his recurring characters that play different roles in multiple novels, but I guess Chimpman is above paltry stuff such as genre-defining classics of high literature, save for the most blatantly obvious.
 
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, but I guess Chimpman is above paultry stuff such as literature, save for the most blatantly obvious.

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I am surprised this guy botherred reading game manuals.

EDIT: If Bob ever bothers to read something, I seriously hope he is not going all autistic on Pratchett's Discworld, which actually is a crossover-verse.
 
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I'm pretty sure that shared universes require crossovers.. Did anyone see Romeo's cameo in Hamlet?

Also, Bobbo is sure getting massacred on Twitter:
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Him and Dobson would make great comedic foils in a Shakespearian play. Bobblob and Dobblob, the the most pathetic pair of ne'er-do-wells in the entire kingdom!
 
I think he's trying to say that Shakespeare is an example of a fictional shared universe just on the basis on having the same creator and possibly not contradicting each other if you're autistic enough to try to map them out.

They also miss the point by ignoring that most characters in Shakespeare plays are supposed to be historical figures, so no shit they "share the same universe", not to mention there barely being any recurring characters in said plays, the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Falstaff. A lot better example would've been any ancient mythology or folklore with recurring figures. They also could've mentioned Honoré de Balzac, one of the big daddies of Realist novels, who is well known for his recurring characters that play different roles in multiple novels, but I guess Chimpman is above paultry stuff such as genre-defining classics of high literature, save for the most blatantly obvious.

Ok I am going to attempt the sort of thing that ends in a nightmarish orgy of flesh and gore like From Beyond or The English Patient and see if I can puzzle out what is going on in Bob's head, which I think I can do because unlike Bob I actually have degrees in the relevant fields -- that is, literature and theatre (ok, no I never got the theatre degree but that's just because I couldn't stand doing all the shop hours). Take this for what it's worth, and since I haven't really thought about this stuff in ten years or more, feel free to correct me.

I believe what Bob is referring to by "Shakespeare's Shared Universe" (and oh sweet Christ just typing that makes me nauseated) is the history plays which are more than loosely connected as they cover the War of the Roses, commonly referred to as the First Tetralogy and Second Tetralogy (Tetralogy being the actual word for "series of four" because "quadrilogy" is not a fucking word). The First Tetralogy goes:

Henry VI Part 1
Henry VI Part 2
Henry VI Part 3
Richard III


Henry VI 1-3 is one of his earlier, less polished efforts, is incredibly long and boring, and is thus rarely performed. Richard III, of course, is a far better known and better regarded play, and one of the plays where Shakespeare seems to have matured as a writer. (Again, might have this wrong, so if you care, please correct me.) The Second Tetralogy, which is actually (urp) a prequel, goes thus:

Richard II
Henry IV Part 1
Henry IV Part 2
Henry V


Universally the Second Tetralogy is considered superior, mostly because Henry VI is an unbearable mess while all four of these are among Shakespeare's best. And as for recurring characters, yes Falstaff is one (and we'll get back to him in a second) but so is Prince Hal of Henry IV, who is, yes, Henry V himself in the eponymous play.

Now if Bob is talking about Falstaff as being indicative of a "shared universe" (blech), well, the Falstaff that shows up in The Merry Wives of Windsor really isn't very much like the one from the Henry plays, supposedly because the character was so popular Queen Elizabeth requested Bad Bill to write a play about Falstaff in love. So tonally and plot-wise, Windsor has almost nothing to do with the history plays, and the Falstaff that shows up there is more comically portrayed.

The rest of the history plays are really not terribly connected, and "historical" plays that are more considered tragedies (such as Macbeth and Hamlet and Julius Caesar) are simply not in any way associated with the tetralogies at all, and in fact can be blatantly ahistorical -- observe the clocks in Julius Caesar or the various James VI / James I flattery found in Macbeth, which is largely the reason that play was written in the first place. Like Marvel and China, Shakespeare knew how to flatter his patrons.

Now. Does Bob know any of that? Perhaps. A quick Wikipedia jaunt will probably tell you most of this. If he actually assays the idea of a "Shakespeare Shared Universe" (vomit) then let's see if he ever even uses the word tetralogy or knows which plays constitute them. If he doesn't, then he's as full of shit as usual.
 
Hey gang, what'd I miss?

I'd think the question's more "Why are you reaching for reasons to hate on Justice League?"
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I know Bob's a few hot dogs short of a picnic, but how much of a victim complex does he have?
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Another million-dollar idea after that smash hit Terminator pitch.
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I love how he tries to be chill about Mario despite all his claims to the contrary.
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Buy it before, buy it after, you're still a goddamn loser to me.
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"I don't want religions to be persecuted, but I totally want religions to be persecuted."
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