RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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SecretMagicalGirl said:
I don’t see how it was realistic at all, let alone “inspirational”.
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It's neither of those things. Her depression comes out of nowhere, is prompted by nothing, and is resolved via Deus Ex Machina. It gets praised because it's a serious and realistic thing that exists and that some other shows deal with. Since the fans of RWBY only watch RWBY and maybe flavor of the month shonen anime it's like the most amazing thing they've ever seen.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
Why wouldn't it? That's the only one of their content that went mainstream and isn't outright hated (like Red vs Blue which they had to retcon several seasons to try fix how badly they fucked it up). Their heavy hitter (gen:LOCK, IIRC) that was supposed to get them big contracts with movie studios and the Holywood elites never went big and faded into obscurity in people's memory (doesn't help that it only has 8 episodes). Entirety of Rooster Teeth has built by Red vs Blue and RWBY, and they've massively fucked over every single fan of R vs B they could. RWBY is pretty much anything they have left, and is the only thing that got them massive contracts with places like Crunchyroll. Since gen:LOCK failed, all they've been doing is pushing RWBY.
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RWBY isn't limitless property though.

Every shitty crossover, every bit of studio drama, every wasted opportunity (the video games, the vtubing, the voice actors having an OF, etc), every bad studio decision creating roadblocks to watching the show, and every bad season of show (of which there are several) is driving the actual property into the ground.

They can stall between seasons all they want - but if the actual product isn't good and the fans have no reason to think it's going to get better, the audience is going to keep shrinking. Most people that cared about RWBY have left for greener, better animated, faster produced, and better written pastures years ago. There is so much left in RWBY that there's a 0 percent chance it will all ever get solved before the show is cancelled - unless they do the comical "race to the finish" that Game of Thrones did.

WarnerBrothers is well aware there's a huge fatigue in media and they've been cutting projects accordingly. There's no way the studio is making back the money they are spending and there's no chance that WB has any faith in any of RoosterTeeth's leadership to turn things around - considering the environment they currently preside over (missed deadlines, drama, blatantly unprofessional conduct, bad long term planning with the CR contract, no new projects in forever, etc).

They're dead in the water and everyone knows it. RWBY might be something that WB shuffles over to a more successful studio eventually but it will almost certainly not be worth the hassle with all the of work they would have to do in tard wrangling the writing staff and VA staff.
 
Tanner Glass said:
WarnerBrothers is well aware there's a huge fatigue in media and they've been cutting projects accordingly. There's no way the studio is making back the money they are spending and there's no chance that WB has any faith in any of RoosterTeeth's leadership to turn things around - considering the environment they currently preside over (missed deadlines, drama, blatantly unprofessional conduct, bad long term planning with the CR contract, no new projects in forever, etc).
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So what in your thoughts is the fate of RT? Dissolution of the company and the firing of all staff?
 
Dumpster dived waifu said:
I can't help but feel like they don't understand the point.
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What is the point? That Superman can solve any problem without breaking a sweat, but doesn't because he doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings? If anything, this could just be the way crossovers go: all aspects need time to shine. And from what I've seen, it's been mostly the DC characters brought into the RWBY universe, so what were you expecting? The DC Heroes to upstage Team RWBY and tell them how much they suck?
 
Random Internet Person said:
That Superman can solve any problem without breaking a sweat, but doesn't because he doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings?
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I'll be honest, I never liked this aspect of Superman and Flash. I liked how they were portrayed in the Justice League cartoon. Superman and Wonderwoman were super tough sure, but both for example could hurt each other, and couldn't solve the situation singlehandedly. Flash could be one of the biggest threats, but his personality was always a limiting factor, while also being funny.

The cartoon (I think I only saw like the season one) didn't need to write cope fests of how Superman could have totally saved the day and shit and chose to let people die to save Batman's feelings. IIRC the show event made it into a point that they needed the team for them to be at their best.

When your main character can solve every problem because he's the fastest, strongest, most durable, can see through anything, can detect lies, etc, etc, then why the fuck isn't he actually solving any of the problems instead of waiting for the end of the movie/comic book issue/episode, etc.

The only thing that is more silly than this, are the massive copefests Flash fans go onto to justify how their villains actually do all make sense and are a real threat (not to say that Flash doesn't have actually decent villains, but boy do some of his other villains suck)
 
Useful_Mistake said:
I'll be honest, I never liked this aspect of Superman and Flash. I liked how they were portrayed in the Justice League cartoon. Superman and Wonderwoman were super tough sure, but both for example could hurt each other, and couldn't solve the situation singlehandedly. Flash could be one of the biggest threats, but his personality was always a limiting factor, while also being funny.

The cartoon (I think I only saw like the season one) didn't need to write cope fests of how Superman could have totally saved the day and shit and chose to let people die to save Batman's feelings. IIRC the show event made it into a point that they needed the team for them to be at their best.

When your main character can solve every problem because he's the fastest, strongest, most durable, can see through anything, can detect lies, etc, etc, then why the fuck isn't he actually solving any of the problems instead of waiting for the end of the movie/comic book issue/episode, etc.

The only thing that is more silly than this, are the massive copefests Flash fans go onto to justify how their villains actually do all make sense and are a real threat (not to say that Flash doesn't have actually decent villains, but boy do some of his other villains suck)
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I think this may explain it a bit.
 
Random Internet Person said:
I think this may explain it a bit.
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Yes, I've seen this clip before. Doesn't help. It doesn't matter if Superman can defeat a villain, nor that he is careful because he doesn't want to hurt others. At a certain point this becomes just artificial; just a way for Superman to look like he's losing to draw out time. Superman will let himself be slammed into buildings and thereby kill people, but he won't take the effort to take down the enemy until the episode ends. It's just pointless nonsense attached to him to try to explain the inconsistency. It's sorta like Goku, in a way. He is only worried about the environmental damage when the plot requires him too (SSJ 3 scene anyone? That's a lot of dead people right there)

Your clip actually underscores the problem. Not only did Superman go on a long rant "I can't fight, I might actually hurt someone with all my speed and power", he then immediately went full in, and destroyed several buildings. It's one or the other, but Superman authors want both.
 
Useful_Mistake said:
So what in your thoughts is the fate of RT? Dissolution of the company and the firing of all staff?
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I think long term it's done.

Short term depends on important contracts and WB's approach to the restructure - they're likely to be smart about it and try and save money in the long run. But they'll probably release executives when their contracts are up and start getting more directly involved with the studio by having them report to already existing WB execs. The rent for wherever RT is located is going to be a big driving factor on timing, it's a big cost they'll soon be glad to be rid of. RT First will likely just get folded into whatever WB's service is and WB will let RT's unimportant contracts lapse (RT sponsors podcasts, streamers, and so on).

They'll likely try and isolate talented people and fold them into WB's centralized studio in CA and could possibly try to keep something RWBY going if they feel there's enough of the core staff that's willing to play ball on it; which I find unlikely given the level of professionalism expressed by the existing team.

It may not be happining right now, but it's something that's being planned. There's almost certainly someone pouring over contracts and making a timeline.
 
Useful_Mistake said:
So what in your thoughts is the fate of RT? Dissolution of the company and the firing of all staff?
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Honestly, it depends on how much value Warner Bros. Discovery attaches to the company and its properties. Its possible the WBD may decide to just offload the company to someone else, thereby making it somebody else's problem, which is what they did with The CW. I don't see Rooster Teeth's content being folded into another entity as its catalogue doesn't really fit with any existing subsidiaries. The company may be spun-off and left to flounder on its own to its eventual demise. Or, more likely, it will will simply closed, most staff laid off, and quietly forgotten.
 
Personally I think it would have made far more sense to do a crossover with the 2000's Teen Titans cartoon instead of the Justice league. Assuming they wanted to revive hype on RWBY that is.

I mean the Justice league are heroes between late 20's to early 30 adults. And their age regression was temporal. On the RWBY side, some characters are technically adults, I think. But lets be real, most are closer in maturity to teenagers than adults.

They just had to get the voice actors of the old cartoon and they could have potentially revived Interest on both shows. I could 100% imagine twitter and reddit flooding it with fan art and it trending out of pure nostalgia.

Millennials have being begging for literal decades by now for more, non Go!, Teen Titans content.

Yes, it was THAT easy.

But instead they decided to match them with generic versions of the Justice League they literally just made up that aren't even tied to anything like the DCAU? Or young Justice? Nothing to seize the nostalgia?

I am just amazed how even with free access to the multiBillion dollar franchises of Warner Brothers they still manage to waste their chances to keep their jobs.
 
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SecretMagicalGirl said:
Personally I think it would have made far more sense to do a crossover with the 2000's Teen Titans cartoon instead of the Justice league.

I mean the Justice league are between late 20's to early 30 adults. And their age regression was temporal. On the RWBY side, some characters are technically adults, I think. But lets be real, most are closer in maturity to teenagers than adults.

They just had to get the voice actors of the old cartoon and they could have potentially revived Interest on both shows. I could 100% imagine twitter and reddit flooding it with fan art and it trending out of pure nostalgia.

Millennials have being begging for literal decades by now for more, non Go!, Teen Titans content.

But instead they decided to match them with generic versions of the Justice League they literally just made up that aren't even tied to anything like the DCAU? Or young Justice? Nothing to seize the nostalgia?

Yes, it was THAT easy.

Seriously? Is Rooster Teeth even trying?
I am just amazed how even with access to the multimillion dollar franchises of Warner Brothers they still manage to waste their chances.
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See, I don't think RT was given a choice. Typically in these types of deals, the lesser company is given a small handful of safe options that they know you couldn't possibly destroy.
 
Well, if they absolutely had to use only the Justice League characters, it would still had made more sense to only use one of them at a time. You know, build hype over time.

A few years ago, The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had a crossover with just Batman to great success financially and critically. Not having to deal with 20 or so characters at the same time does wonders to quality.

But, I won’t blame if you think I am overthinking this. At the end of the day they had access to a big franchise and still delivered a supbar product.

In other words, a day ending with “Y” at Rooster Teeth.
 
New RWBY merch just dropped, being sold by Bandai Namco Filmworks (animation studio responsible for Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass(though they list the authors for this RWBY product as Bandai Namco Toys & Collectibles America Inc.)).

It costs $66. Pre-Orders close on Sep. 27, 2023, 2:59 AM (EDT), and the delivery is made during December 2023.
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It seems to be an 300 page art book. Weirdly, despite the images showing Vol 5 of the original show (and the cover promising art from Volumes 1-8, the website lists the franchise as Ice Queendom.

It is open to pre-orders since yesterday and you can get it here:

 
Useful_Mistake said:
New RWBY merch just dropped, being sold by Bandai Namco Filmworks (animation studio responsible for Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass(though they list the authors for this RWBY product as Bandai Namco Toys & Collectibles America Inc.)).

It costs $66. Pre-Orders close on Sep. 27, 2023, 2:59 AM (EDT), and the delivery is made during December 2023.
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It seems to be an 300 page art book. Weirdly, despite the images showing Vol 5 of the original show (and the cover promising art from Volumes 1-8, the website lists the franchise as Ice Queendom.

It is open to pre-orders since yesterday and you can get it here:

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TFW you realize that RT had their own art book , only to get upstaged by this.
 
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