RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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We can only imagine what the show would have been like if Monty Oum had managed to hook up with competent writers instead of a couple of Youtube Famous weebs.
Competent writers would probably have clashed with Monty a lot. Idk how he was to work with but I am suspicious of Japanese auteurs or wannabe auteurs. They seem unbearable. But I also don't know and it's wrong to make inferences when there is a primary source I can consult if I just decided to be less lazy.
 
Competent writers would probably have clashed with Monty a lot. Idk how he was to work with but I am suspicious of Japanese auteurs or wannabe auteurs. They seem unbearable. But I also don't know and it's wrong to make inferences when there is a primary source I can consult if I just decided to be less lazy.
To my understanding, and not to make too many assumptions, Monty was a pretty insufferable guy to work with.
 
To my understanding, and not to make too many assumptions, Monty was a pretty insufferable guy to work with.
I don't like that I am saying this, because it is messed up on some level, but if he were still alive this would be more central to the discussion of RWBY's problems.
That said, sometimes guys are "insufferable" because they're willing to be rude and demanding to make sure the product works. Katzenberg as Disney was like that. A douche but one who knew his job and took his authority seriously. It does not sound like that was Monty because he was willing to just let other guys do a big job and would also disappear like he was known to do.
 
I don't like that I am saying this, because it is messed up on some level, but if he were still alive this would be more central to the discussion of RWBY's problems.
That said, sometimes guys are "insufferable" because they're willing to be rude and demanding to make sure the product works. Katzenberg as Disney was like that. A douche but one who knew his job and took his authority seriously. It does not sound like that was Monty because he was willing to just let other guys do a big job and would also disappear like he was known to do.
Like I said, I didn't want to make a solid assumption about the guy, but aside from being insufferable, he was pretty...fickle, irresponsible, and didn't care much about other opinions unless he had hangers on. RWBY was never supposed to be so intricate if the project itself was just gonna be no better than some low budget animation school passion project.
 
That's sad to see an incredibly basic bitch culmination of the Shonen genre in Black Clover beating RWBY, despite being equally if not more cliche...Christ, that's even more hilarious than Japan dropping RWBY once Volume 4 flopped on its ass.
Thing is, Black Clover even being the "basic bitch culmination of shounen" is done right. Again, tropes aren't inherently bad themselves, it's how you use them make them good or bad. And Black Clover knows how to use it. Plus, everyone references from something, so it ain't unusual.

Black Clover has:

> A comprehensible magic system
> Likeable side-characters
> Great fights
> A MC who worked on it's weaknesses & strengthened in it's own right to defeat the weakness. Even if he's still a usual foodie, loudmouth, good hearted shounen MC. He's still more likeable then, the Ma-ruby Sue.
> Good storyline with great world-building, character development & moments to the point where even the canon anime fillers are more fun then a whole RWBY season (Tabata writes them himself, the only non-canon things are recaps)

RWBY doesn't do any of these. Eventhough it tried to do the same shit Tabata did with Black Clover. Except, Tabata knows how to write. Also, Tabata has his own issues recently as a person

> He has medical issues.
> His father-in-law died recently.
> He felt pathetic for a while recently for not being able to draw more pages per chapter. The first 2 points being a reason being the reason behind this.

To my understanding, and not to make too many assumptions, Monty was a pretty insufferable guy to work with.
Like I said, I didn't want to make a solid assumption about the guy, but aside from being insufferable, he was pretty...fickle, irresponsible, and didn't care much about other opinions unless he had hangers on. RWBY was never supposed to be so intricate if the project itself was just gonna be no better than some low budget animation school passion project.
As someone who's into 3D amimation & respects Monty. I feel like someone on this thread said it the best,

"If Monty was still alive, he'll have his own Lolcow Thread"
 
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Thing is, Black Clover even being the "basic bitch culmination of shounen" is done right. Again, tropes aren't inherently bad themselves, it's how you use them make them good or bad. And Black Clover knows how to use it. Plus, everyone references from something, so it ain't unusual.

Black Clover has:

> A comprehensible magic system
> Likeable side-characters
> Great fights
> A MC who worked on it's weaknesses & strengthened in it's own right to defeat the weakness. Even if he's still a usual foodie, loudmouth, good hearted shounen MC. He's still more likeable then, the Ma-ruby Sue.
> Good storyline with great world-building, character development & moments to the point where even the canon anime fillers are more fun then a whole RWBY season (Tabata writes them himself, the only non-canon things are recaps)

RWBY doesn't do any of these. Eventhough it tried to do the same shit Tabata did with Black Clover. Except, Tabata knows how to write. Also, Tabata has his own issues recently as a person

> He has medical issues.
> His father-in-law died recently.
> He felt pathetic for a while recently for not being able to draw more pages per chapter. The first 2 points being a reason being the reason behind this.



As someone who's into 3D amimation & respects Monty. I feel like someone on this thread said it the best,

"If Monty was still alive, he'll have his own Lolcow Thread"

Oh don't get me wrong about Clover, cliche as it is and a culmination of the Shonen genre said series at least has characters who can be Chads nor does it reek of issues RWBY has.

BC is a enjoyable mess that knows what it is and revels in being exactly what you'd expect, RWBY is the confusing mess that doesn't know what it wants to be and tries to appease towards freaks who will lose their collective shit over their OTP not coming true.
 
Watching H Bomberguy on RWBY, which I've watched very little of. How accurate is he?
It's what I expected: the guy who likes seeing his waifus fight (and make out) is not a writer who can have a grounded setting, story or characters so other people did that for him. Creating dissonance even under good circumstances. The Red trailer was all excellent style but if you expected that tempo to be matched by a story which justified it you were kidding yourself. It's not substance. It's a girl looking sad and then wiping out an endangered species.
I notice H Bomberguy often uses something being well received or popular as a way of quickly showing its appeal. Which is usually fine but this proves the limits of that. 15 million trailer views for an animation demo promising to be a show.
Thing is, the Red trailer was the pitch/proof of concept Monty made. And only two of them had dialogue, and only one directly connects to the show in all honesty (or two if you wanna infer). Everything I see from the Beacon/Monty years makes me feel like the story is there just to keep it from being poorly connected fight scenes.

Competent writers would probably have clashed with Monty a lot. Idk how he was to work with but I am suspicious of Japanese auteurs or wannabe auteurs. They seem unbearable. But I also don't know and it's wrong to make inferences when there is a primary source I can consult if I just decided to be less lazy.
I don't like that I am saying this, because it is messed up on some level, but if he were still alive this would be more central to the discussion of RWBY's problems.
That said, sometimes guys are "insufferable" because they're willing to be rude and demanding to make sure the product works. Katzenberg as Disney was like that. A douche but one who knew his job and took his authority seriously. It does not sound like that was Monty because he was willing to just let other guys do a big job and would also disappear like he was known to do.
Like I said, I didn't want to make a solid assumption about the guy, but aside from being insufferable, he was pretty...fickle, irresponsible, and didn't care much about other opinions unless he had hangers on. RWBY was never supposed to be so intricate if the project itself was just gonna be no better than some low budget animation school passion project.
Oh don't get me wrong about Clover, cliche as it is and a culmination of the Shonen genre said series at least has characters who can be Chads nor does it reek of issues RWBY has.

BC is a enjoyable mess that knows what it is and revels in being exactly what you'd expect, RWBY is the confusing mess that doesn't know what it wants to be and tries to appease towards freaks who will lose their collective shit over their OTP not coming true.
The thing about it is, Miles and Kerry, Monty’s cohorts, were brought in to expand on Monty’s ideas, they worked early and often enough to warrant a “created by” credit, and RT (and IIRC RWBY in particular) was the only place where they managed to get gigs as a writer or a director. If anything, Monty found something that worked to him, and it helped the show to be more than “cute girls fighting monsters”.

And then you got people who think that V3 onwards is just a perversion of Monty’s vision since he died and RT has been going rogue and has cruelly shut out Monty’s wife and protege Sheena and Shane, the only people who knew what Monty really had planned for RWBY. (Seriously, if you’re ever on Reddit or Discord in a RWBY circle, ask about Soarel. The guy’s a lunatic, and that’s putting it mildly).
 
Thing is, the Red trailer was the pitch/proof of concept Monty made. And only two of them had dialogue, and only one directly connects to the show in all honesty (or two if you wanna infer). Everything I see from the Beacon/Monty years makes me feel like the story is there just to keep it from being poorly connected fight scenes.





The thing about it is, Miles and Kerry, Monty’s cohorts, were brought in to expand on Monty’s ideas, they worked early and often enough to warrant a “created by” credit, and RT (and IIRC RWBY in particular) was the only place where they managed to get gigs as a writer or a director. If anything, Monty found something that worked to him, and it helped the show to be more than “cute girls fighting monsters”.

And then you got people who think that V3 onwards is just a perversion of Monty’s vision since he died and RT has been going rogue and has cruelly shut out Monty’s wife and protege Sheena and Shane, the only people who knew what Monty really had planned for RWBY. (Seriously, if you’re ever on Reddit or Discord in a RWBY circle, ask about Soarel. The guy’s a lunatic, and that’s putting it mildly).
What is a Soarel? Is he a lolcalf?
 
What is a Soarel? Is he a lolcalf?
Soarel is a guy who thinks that RT has shat all over what Monty had planned for RWBY out of malice. If you come across him on Reddit, YouTube, or Discord, that’s probably the best way to hear about his thoughts because there’s a lot of stuff that he believes, and it’s a bit of a rabbit hole.
 
Oh, boy. Oh, boy! OH, BOY! That was- that was a real journey to read. How about...we just don't care and want to be entertained, RT?

But, sure, become more "advertisement friendly".

Sellout.
 
Speaking of CuckTeeth going DFE on their gamer moments, if it's not already in the OP post for the RoosterTeeth thread being made, it's important to know Gavin and Geoff once had a naughty game they'd play where they'd follow hot girls around in Geoff's car stalking them. The video itself was fucking purged, and if I can find it I will share it as needed/wanted.

Fuck it, everything I found
And heres Geoff apologizing
 
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The twitter thread is pathetic. People celebrating them deleting videos and other people demanding they remove even more "offensive" content. People have stated that once you give in, it won't stop and they will just demand more and that is exactly what is happening.

This is what you can expect when you choose to bow down to the offended.
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https://twitter.com/fahcanderson/status/1291843975154790401
http://archive.vn/5ABqp
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https://twitter.com/RainbowPan94/status/1291843222835286018
http://archive.vn/Hq8TJ
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https://twitter.com/_ADHDani/status/1291847669183324160
http://archive.vn/ErDFh
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https://twitter.com/humblebards/status/1291853511613972481
http://archive.vn/D8UAV
 
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Like I said, I didn't want to make a solid assumption about the guy, but aside from being insufferable, he was pretty...fickle, irresponsible, and didn't care much about other opinions unless he had hangers on. RWBY was never supposed to be so intricate if the project itself was just gonna be no better than some low budget animation school passion project.
Best example of this is volume 1: You know that ending fight scene with Penny at the docks? Yeah, Miles and Kerry didn't know it existed until the episode aired. Monty sneaked it in.

What is a Soarel? Is he a lolcalf?
Professional Cinder Simp who constantly yells about Mony's dreams being defiled by Super Villains Miles and Kerry, that Cinder is actually supposed to be a revolutionary hero fighting to stop Ozpin's super secret dystopian conspiracy shadow government from ruining the world and backs this up by spamming his pastebin where the majority of the 'evidence' is either attributing meaning to vague words from Monty's wife (she said that she thinks there's more to Cinder, which of course means TOTAL GOOD GUY) or taking Cinder's one speech from Volume 3 as her only true character moment. You know, that speech that was clearly her manipulating the crowd for her own gain and not her actual feelings? Oh, but wait, Cinder is totally legit. Do you notice that when she's pretending to be angry, she looks angry?

I'm still stumped on why this guy hasn't been banned from both RWBY and RWBYCritics subreddit, literally all he does is yell at people, insult them, make baseless accusations and then cry about how people are mean to him; literally only one moderator doesn't hate him and yet he doesn't get the boot.
 
Best example of this is volume 1: You know that ending fight scene with Penny at the docks? Yeah, Miles and Kerry didn't know it existed until the episode aired. Monty sneaked it in.
I don't know if I should be surprised, not surprised or impressed. I hate M&K, and I don't feel as much love for Monty.
Professional Cinder Simp who constantly yells about Mony's dreams being defiled by Super Villains Miles and Kerry, that Cinder is actually supposed to be a revolutionary hero fighting to stop Ozpin's super secret dystopian conspiracy shadow government from ruining the world and backs this up by spamming his pastebin where the majority of the 'evidence' is either attributing meaning to vague words from Monty's wife (she said that she thinks there's more to Cinder, which of course means TOTAL GOOD GUY) or taking Cinder's one speech from Volume 3 as her only true character moment. You know, that speech that was clearly her manipulating the crowd for her own gain and not her actual feelings? Oh, but wait, Cinder is totally legit. Do you notice that when she's pretending to be angry, she looks angry?

I'm still stumped on why this guy hasn't been banned from both RWBY and RWBYCritics subreddit, literally all he does is yell at people, insult them, make baseless accusations and then cry about how people are mean to him; literally only one moderator doesn't hate him and yet he doesn't get the boot.
They probably keep him around as they would a dancing monkey to gawk at.
 
Professional Cinder Simp who constantly yells about Mony's dreams being defiled by Super Villains Miles and Kerry, that Cinder is actually supposed to be a revolutionary hero fighting to stop Ozpin's super secret dystopian conspiracy shadow government from ruining the world and backs this up by spamming his pastebin where the majority of the 'evidence' is either attributing meaning to vague words from Monty's wife (she said that she thinks there's more to Cinder, which of course means TOTAL GOOD GUY) or taking Cinder's one speech from Volume 3 as her only true character moment. You know, that speech that was clearly her manipulating the crowd for her own gain and not her actual feelings? Oh, but wait, Cinder is totally legit. Do you notice that when she's pretending to be angry, she looks angry?

I'm still stumped on why this guy hasn't been banned from both RWBY and RWBYCritics subreddit, literally all he does is yell at people, insult them, make baseless accusations and then cry about how people are mean to him; literally only one moderator doesn't hate him and yet he doesn't get the boot.
Don’t forget these parts:
  • Believing the soundtrack to be canon.
  • Thinking everything was either Monty’s idea or had to get past Monty because he was in charge, and all Miles and Kerry ever did was write “day to day dialogue”.
  • Believing that Weiss’ time dialation means that Weiss can control time, and Possibly even stop time.
  • The Huntsman academies are nothing more than ways for Ozpin to create meat shields in his war to keep his grip on the world, which is why Cinder seems to destroy them.
  • A buddy of mine said according to Soarel, Cinder/Salem’s crusade is comparable to the French Revolution.
  • Every problem the show faces today in story and characters is because Miles and Kerry have gone rogue and aren’t following Monty’s detailed plan.

  • Monty’s wife Sheena worked with Monty from day one, knew EVERYTHING Monty had planned, and RT just shut her out.

    -Sheena and Monty’s protege Shane can and should sue for rights and ownership, and only haven't done so because they’d get crushed by Warner/AT&T.
  • A Pastebin which Soarel says shows the alleged retcons and changes: http://archive.is/zjhtf

  • Miles and Kerry going rogue and telling Sheena and Shane to hit the road has caused the show to be retconned to oblivion.


  • A Pastebin showing his thoughts on Cinder: http://archive.is/tuwg4
  • A blog post talking about how Jeff writes music, showing how Soarel thinks the songs are canon. http://archive.is/3tan4
  • And finally, Soarel’s evidence that Sheena knew all along what Monty was planning: http://archive.vn/3Unf3
 
The twitter thread is pathetic. People celebrating them deleting videos and other people demanding they remove even more "offensive" content. People have stated that once you give in, it won't stop and they will just demand more and that is exactly what is happening.

This is what you can expect when you choose to bow down to the offended.
https://twitter.com/fahcanderson/status/1291843975154790401
http://archive.vn/5ABqp
https://twitter.com/RainbowPan94/status/1291843222835286018
http://archive.vn/Hq8TJ
https://twitter.com/_ADHDani/status/1291847669183324160
http://archive.vn/ErDFh
https://twitter.com/humblebards/status/1291853511613972481
http://archive.vn/D8UAV
They deserve this. Make your bed in wokeism, sleep in wokeism. The only allowable jokes now will be at the expense of rich white guys.
 
I'm still stumped on why this guy hasn't been banned from both RWBY and RWBYCritics subreddit, literally all he does is yell at people, insult them, make baseless accusations and then cry about how people are mean to him; literally only one moderator doesn't hate him and yet he doesn't get the boot.
Because like most other unironic fans of RWBY, most unironic users of Reddit are cucks without the balls to actually back up any threats. I bet he's only still there because they're afraid he'll do something to them depsite him being just as big of a wussified cuck as they are.
 
The twitter thread is pathetic. People celebrating them deleting videos and other people demanding they remove even more "offensive" content. People have stated that once you give in, it won't stop and they will just demand more and that is exactly what is happening.

This is what you can expect when you choose to bow down to the offended.
https://twitter.com/fahcanderson/status/1291843975154790401
http://archive.vn/5ABqp
https://twitter.com/RainbowPan94/status/1291843222835286018
http://archive.vn/Hq8TJ
https://twitter.com/_ADHDani/status/1291847669183324160
http://archive.vn/ErDFh
https://twitter.com/humblebards/status/1291853511613972481
http://archive.vn/D8UAV
I can guarantee you that much of those asking them to delete their content are trolls. They don't care about RT, but will laugh if the company goes under or irrelevant. I know I would have encouraged them.
 
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