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augment said:
My nearly redundant question is, Gran Turismo being a trashfire at the moment, why hasn't an alternative popped up, picked up the slack. Years back as EA decided to coat sim city in a thick even layer of excrement, it made the rise of cities skylines possible. Why don't we have a modern counterpart for simulation racing.
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For a few reasons.

For starts, GT as a series is not a sim. It's a simcade series. Within the actual simracing world there is quite alot of competition and it's quite good - proper simulator markets are somewhat immune to the slopification of gaming.

Furthermore, the simcade market has shrunken. When Gt Sport released, PC2 and AC1 were big. GT Sport was held against both for Comparison. However, PC as a series shot itself in the foot, and AC leaned harder into simulation and racecars. GT's main competitor, FM, had FM7 when GTS was out, and more recently FM 2023 when GT7 is out. However, those are not available on PS, and FM had a (properly documented) terrible launch and reception. While FM is better now, it is still the subject of what can only be described as a mass disinformation campaign by GT players. All the other simcades out atm are very niche games with small followings. The only other ps exclusive simcade, Driveclub, was forcefully killed off before GTS launched.

Finally, GT7 pulled some extreme luck early on.

When GT7 first came out, as in the first few days, there was ALOT of "hey, what the hell is this game?" However shortly after release, GT7 which is online only, had a server issue and was unplayable for 2 days. This became the main point of contention, and was why the game got review bombed, etc.

Once this was fixed? People seemed to forget alot of the previously discussed issues. Those who brought them up were ostracized from communities. This led to a sort of "brain drain" on the GT community. After the first year or so, all that was left was diehard Sony fans, casual slop enjoyers, and weebs. Problem being that on PSN, this is a LARGE playerbase.

Having never gotten proper documentation of its issues, of which many i listed previously, media surrounding GT simply became a circle jerk over its visuals and exclusivity. There is almost no information out there about everything I described.

Since it has rhat sort of "captive playerbase" there's no room for competition, because that normie base will hold everything up to GT while at the same time being completely and totally ignorant of everything GT both is and is not.

I shit you not there are people who spend upwards of $2000 on simracing hardware JUST FOR GT7 solely because they genuinely believe they are playing the end all, be all racing simulation game. The advertisement disguised as a movie they made hasn't helped either - I see constant comments about "getting good enough to join GT academy" which wasn't an actual academy, resulted in the death of spectators, and hasn't been a thing in a decade or more.

All of this has lead to this issue where there is a mound of bullshit and pro GT7 information out there with 0 fact checking or countering by ANYONE. People buy the game, see all this, never see any negatives, rinse repeat.

There are dozens of youtube videos about engines blowing up in GT. Mid race. Due to lack of maintenance. Etc. Guess what? Its not even a feature in game. You literally cannot damage an engine without hitting somwthing. Lack of oil changes causes mild power loss over thousands of miles but its impossible to blow. I tested all of this and put it in a YT video, which i had a friend post to the subreddit. He recieved a suspension and multiple reddit cares messages. Its literally an insurmountable wall of bullshit

Simply put there's no competition because there's nothing that can logically compete against whatever the fuck GT has become. Not only is it a dwindling market, but you have to literally compete with an entire community of misinformation. I would genuinely compare it to dealing with trans people or hard leftists, it's like reality just doesn't fucking exist
 
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Glowie Hunter Art Bell said:
For a few reasons.
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Also, did the rise of open-world racing games, with them being more casual-friendly, and the usual audience shifting to those and away from track racers (mostly Simcade ones presumably, since the diehard Sim racers would still stick with their games of chose), make it so that only the autistic sweats are the majority of players still playing GT? And the communities for those open-world racing games tend to be more chill.

And despite those said open-world racing games having their own share of issues with them, with some being inherent to modern gaming (i.e. Live Services and Always-Online games), and some of them REALLY bad (i.e. TDU Solar Crown being so dogshit that not even patching the game will fix it), their gameplay is still more ahead of what GT7 has to offer right now.
 
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Gravemind said:
That's an odd reason to point out. I've never heard of GTA porn. Care to elaborate?
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Good models means pretty 3d porn. Look at OW and FF, do you have any idea how much porn is made using assets from these two? TLOU as well. A good, easy to use engine for realistic movement and good assets halve the time and effort needed for this kind of stuff. Every 3d porn artist will be all over it if it is comparable to the standard games used for producing 3d animated porn. Just look at any 3d comic (porn or not) that does not use a game engine as bases for the models. The models will look like they are from the Uncanny Valley. If the GTA6 engine can be used for porn better than the current standard, there will be an arms race to learn it to use it for NSFW work for every artist that makes 3d porn. And you bet your right buttcheek that if the devs want to make back the 2 billion, GTA6 will be very mod friendly, even for that stuff. To make a long story short, the reason you do not see much porn based on GTA is because there have always been better alternatives up until now. Chances are this might not change but you never know. Usually, MK engines occupy the niche that GTA would but we will see.
 
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Incecticyder said:
Good models means pretty 3d porn. Look at OW and FF, do you have any idea how much porn is made using assets from these two? TLOU as well. A good, easy to use engine for realistic movement and good assets halve the time and effort needed for this kind of stuff. Every 3d porn artist will be all over it if it is comparable to the standard games used for producing 3d animated porn. Just look at any 3d comic (porn or not) that does not use a game engine as bases for the models. The models will look like they are from the Uncanny Valley. If the GTA6 engine can be used for porn better than the current standard, there will be an arms race to learn it to use it for NSFW work for every artist that makes 3d porn. And you bet your right buttcheek that if the devs want to make back the 2 billion, GTA6 will be very mod friendly, even for that stuff. To make a long story short, the reason you do not see much porn based on GTA is because there have always been better alternatives up until now. Chances are this might not change but you never know. Usually, MK engines occupy the niche that GTA would but we will see.
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That isn't even remotely what I asked about, but okay. Certainly an extensive amount of conjecture regarding animated 3D porn though.

By the way, I doubt anyone's gonna use GTA6 for porn. Asset usage is different from the engine used to make the animations in, hence the popularity of SFM, MMD, and Blender.
 
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Love Is Blue said:
only cuckman faps to abby
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Not Abby but the other females.

Gravemind said:
That isn't even remotely what I asked about, but okay.
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Because there is nothing to elaborate about. Sorry but there is nothing to make porn out of in this series. GTA has average looking characters you would not want to make porn out of and its engine is not as good as others for porn anyway. Had to answer to you with something and I did to the best of my limited knowledge.

Gravemind said:
Certainly an extensive amount of conjecture regarding animated 3D porn though.
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I never saw the appeal to it as until recent years, it was just uncanny. Just felt like venting.

Gravemind said:
By the way, I doubt anyone's gonna use GTA6 for porn. Asset usage is different from the engine used to make the animations in.
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We all doubt it. However, there is a female protagonist so that might change things. Maybe it might light a spark in the modding scene.
 
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Mister Fister said:
What truly makes a lolcow instead of a normal eccentric, is the fact they always double down on bad choices instead of realizing they fucked up and change course.
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Sony is the lolcow of the industry at this point, EA is just evil
Thiletonomics said:
Herman Hulst hasn't learned a thing about Concord shitting the bed in epic fashion, and said that Sony will double down on Live Service games. / Archive

At the rate of the sheer amount of bombs, how many billions will Sony burn on trying to make "THE NEXT BIG THING" for the console? And once all the money dries out, who will even bother to bail out Sony?
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Larry Fink
 
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Thiletonomics said:
Also, did the rise of open-world racing games, with them being more casual-friendly, and the usual audience shifting to those and away from track racers (mostly Simcade ones presumably, since the diehard Sim racers would still stick with their games of chose), make it so that only the autistic sweats are the majority of players still playing GT? And the communities for those open-world racing games tend to be more chill.

And despite those said open-world racing games having their own share of issues with them, with some being inherent to modern gaming (i.e. Live Services and Always-Online games), and some of them REALLY bad (i.e. TDU Solar Crown being so dogshit that not even patching the game will fix it), their gameplay is still more ahead of what GT7 has to offer right now.
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So, you've actually got it kind of backwards.

We actually have LESS open world racers now. The only racing genre that's grown is serious sims.

GT7 actually shed sweaties from GTS, mainly because it's such a dead end. It still has its share of them but it's far less than most games in my experience. FH, TCM and NFS have SERIOUS sweaty scenes, and I've been involved in the one for TCM more time than I'd like to think about. Lol.

Autism tier criticism is actually a plus for those games, especially forza. Forza has so many spergs that will melt down over the slightest thing that T10/PG are forced to react

For reference here, on GTS I was B/A in sport mode. This usually put me on the top 25%-30ish of players. In GT7? Being a low B put me in the top 10%. The skill dump is part of the ignorance of GT7. Saw alot of this hosting league, you'd have players join, talk big game about physics, irl strats, tires, tuning, and then be an actual fucking E tier track Hazard that would quit halfway thru

On a personal note, TDUSC is about the only game I'd put below GT7 atm. It simply manages to fuck up EVERYTHING
 
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Incecticyder said:
Good models means pretty 3d porn. Look at OW and FF, do you have any idea how much porn is made using assets from these two? TLOU as well. A good, easy to use engine for realistic movement and good assets halve the time and effort needed for this kind of stuff. Every 3d porn artist will be all over it if it is comparable to the standard games used for producing 3d animated porn. Just look at any 3d comic (porn or not) that does not use a game engine as bases for the models. The models will look like they are from the Uncanny Valley. If the GTA6 engine can be used for porn better than the current standard, there will be an arms race to learn it to use it for NSFW work for every artist that makes 3d porn. And you bet your right buttcheek that if the devs want to make back the 2 billion, GTA6 will be very mod friendly, even for that stuff. To make a long story short, the reason you do not see much porn based on GTA is because there have always been better alternatives up until now. Chances are this might not change but you never know. Usually, MK engines occupy the niche that GTA would but we will see.
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I don't think "GTA porn" would ever be a big thing, for the main reason of there are really no particularly special female characters in GTA games, in terms of looks.

DVA, Tracer, Widowmaker, Lara Croft, that sort of thing are all designed to draw the eye, whereas GTA has never particularly been about visual character design. Sure there's probably someone out there with a hard on for the fbi lady from IV or Micheal's generic college slut daughter, but it's limited
 
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Two Dollars said:
I’m eagerly looking forward to the day when the masses finally realize that Playstation was never good, and their past successes are a combination of mooching off third parties and their competition shooting themselves in the foot at extremely convenient times.
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People already are waking up to Sony's nonsense dude, why do you think "PS5 has no games" took off like it did?
 
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Glowie Hunter Art Bell said:
I don't think "GTA porn" would ever be a big thing, for the main reason of there are really no particularly special female characters in GTA games, in terms of looks.

DVA, Tracer, Widowmaker, Lara Croft, that sort of thing are all designed to draw the eye, whereas GTA has never particularly been about visual character design. Sure there's probably someone out there with a hard on for the fbi lady from IV or Micheal's generic college slut daughter, but it's limited
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That is exactly what I mean. However, if the engine it is one is good or the assets are good for porn, it will be used. This is honestly their best chance to make their money back. They alienated the modders by telling them to go away and that was half the appeal of GTA. 2 billion will be hard to make back considering they release on a dud console generation.
 
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