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[Midwit]

Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC, co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel

Who and who?

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Who and who?

Green Arrow's son from the '90s and uh. . . some nobody because we've had so many shapeshifting mutants that a specifically troon one is a nothingburger.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

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How does boom sell their artist involved in this:

>About Brandt&Stein:

Brandt&Stein are a gestalt comics-making entity from the UK. Their biggest claim to fame is the multi-award nominated Crowded from Image, but they also brought Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC, co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel; they’ve drawn for most major publishers, contributed art to Fantasy Flight card games, and somehow still find the time to walk the dog.


>but they also brought Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC
>co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel

Jesus, I know boom is the bottom of the barrel, but come on

What, no disabled female ranger? Boom needs to get on Japan's level of progressiveness.

 

[Nick Obre]

uh. . . some nobody because we've had so many shapeshifting mutants that a specifically troon one is a nothingburger.

Not even a shapeshifter. (S)he sort of trades positions and circumstances (and maybe powers I don't remember) with people

It's a stupid power and the comics the tranny is in are all terrible, anyway, so who cares

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Not even a shapeshifter. (S)he sort of trades positions and circumstances (and maybe powers I don't remember) with people

It's a stupid power and the comics the tranny is in are all terrible, anyway, so who cares

That power is 100% a fetish fanfic one.

Jesus fuckin' christ.

 

[Anon88]

I made the mistake of looking up who Escapade was. This paragraph from the marvel wiki is all you need to know about the character.

Before turning 19 years old, Shela, her longtime classmate Morgan Red, and a genetically engineered flying turtle moved in together. They joined a support group for transgender mutants led by D-Man at the Matt Baker House LGBTQIA+ youth center in Ridgewood, Queens, New York. Shela would eventually become a thief targeting corrupt organizations and individuals with Morgan providing technical support.[1]

 

[Humble Architect]

Every day, the Sentinel Program becomes more and more and more justified.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

I made the mistake of looking up who Escapade was. This paragraph from the marvel wiki is all you need to know about the character.

they couldn't snag a D-list former X-man so they picked D-Man lmao

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

I'm probably a million years late to this, but I've been reading the Geoff Johns/Richard Donner era of Superman, alongside the Sterling Gates run of Supergirl.

Everyone I talked to warned me that this run was vanilla as fuck and not worth reading, but so far it's super enjoyable. Great characterizations for Clark and Lois, really cool takes on Brainiac and Zod, and I like the way Gary Frank draws Supes like Chris Reeve.

 

[Humble Architect]

I'm probably a million years late to this, but I've been reading the Geoff Johns/Richard Donner era of Superman, alongside the Sterling Gates run of Supergirl.

Everyone I talked to warned me that this run was vanilla as fuck and not worth reading, but so far it's super enjoyable. Great characterizations for Clark and Lois, really cool takes on Brainiac and Zod, and I like the way Gary Frank draws Supes like Chris Reeve.

Those books really feel like their way of canonizing as much of those Donner flicks as they can in a Post-Crisis setting, which I like. Reeve’s Superman was greatest when he leaned into the human side, which defines this era of the character.

In that way it’s a cool hypothetical and a good tribute to a guy who got utterly screwed over by life.

Doomsday Clock is hard-carried by the second half with Superman and that it’s the Reeve Superman who’s giving that blue clown an optimism pill and telling him the world is what you put into it.

 

[The Feline Solution]

Yes, I know that the comic is more than just "le hero bad XDDD"

Not much more, though. My stance is still that it is aggressively shit and the only good thing about it is Frenchie, who's just a more fleshed out Jean Le Baton really.

Do you think Garth Ennis seethes internally every day seeing mainstream media be more receptive to The Boys

I think the boatloads of money he got for this and Preacher most likely help him to cope.

I follow Darrick Robertson (the artist) on twitter and during the first season, and shortly after, he was pissed at all the people who said it was better than the comic. After a while he got over it, but I think because he realized people meant it was better written than the comic and no one was critiquing his artwork. But I personally will.

Part of the reason Preacher, Hitman and even The Pro work is because they're drawn in simple, cartoony styles. This makes the absurd moments funny, even when horrible shit is happening. And Darrick is capable of this, he did it for Transmetropolitan. The problem is Darrick stopped doing that art style after Transmetropolitan ended and came to Marvel with a grittier style that worked on Wolverine, Fury, Punisher MAX Born, and other stuff like that.

It was also the style he brought to The Boys and that was part of what killed the comic, for me at least. Hughie dancing with his girlfriend, only for her to explode and he's just holding her arms, was meant to be so absurd it was funny, but with Darrick's artwork it just looks horrifying. Same with a bunch of other moments that John Mcrea, Steve Dillon, Stephen Pugh or Amanda Conner would have made funny by drawing them simple and over the top, Darrick made them too realistic looking to be funny.

Of course, more suitable artwork wouldn't have saved that book, but it could have helped.

I like Robertson's work on Transmetropolitan and especially Punisher:Born but his artwork in The Boys just falls completely flat for me for some reason. The ass-ugly inks are not helping it.

 

[ChampFantana]

I like Robertson's work on Transmetropolitan and especially Punisher:Born but his artwork in The Boys just falls completely flat for me for some reason. The ass-ugly inks are not helping it.

Seeing how shitty both Preacher and The Boys ended up being, I thank ALMIGHTY GOD that nobody has made Transmetropolitan into a TV series.

 

[The Feline Solution]

Seeing how shitty both Preacher and The Boys ended up being, I thank ALMIGHTY GOD that nobody has made Transmetropolitan into a TV series.

I think there were talks about it long, long ago, before the MCU craze and everything but yeah, thankfully it never came to fruition. While the CGI certainly is at the point where they could adapt the setting faithfully if given a high enough budget, i don't trust the faggots with casting decisions (see Preacher) and the like.

Funnily enough, he had the opposite problem when doing Valley Forge, Valley Forge with Goran Parlov.

I think we talked about this briefly already ITT a while back but i have to say again i hate how widely inconsistent Parlov is. I love the euros, Burchielli is probably my favourite one, and i like Parlov's art quite a bit but he always finds ways to make things look weird or off.

I feel he excels at faces/facial expressions and character designs, grabbed these right quick as an example:


But then he does weird shit like these, looking like he just did a quick sketch on his lunchbreak and couldn't be arsed to draw a proper panel:



I also dislike how he draws Frank, especially in the "Barracuda" arc in MAX:



The inconsistency between the first picture and the second one is a joke already and the last one just looks completely off to me. Funnily enough, i remember liking his art a lot in Valley Forge, Valley Forge but it's been a while since i last read it. His best work (again, it's been a while since i last read it) is in Fury: My War Gone By IMO.

I read American Flagg years ago and wasn't impressed with it.

I really did like the artwork, can't remember fuck all about the story. Chaykin's work on Punisher MAX #50 is a joke, i was very happy that it lasted only one issue, looked like absolute dogshit.

I hate this page with a passion.

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How does boom sell their artist involved in this:

>About Brandt&Stein:

Brandt&Stein are a gestalt comics-making entity from the UK. Their biggest claim to fame is the multi-award nominated Crowded from Image, but they also brought Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC, co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel; they’ve drawn for most major publishers, contributed art to Fantasy Flight card games, and somehow still find the time to walk the dog.


>but they also brought Connor Hawke out of the closet as asexual at DC
>co-created Escapade, the first trans mutant, at Marvel

Jesus, I know boom is the bottom of the barrel, but come on

And then they have the nerve to wonder why no one buys their books. What the fuck am i even looking at? That cover looks like a shitpost in picture form.

Edit: Small correction, second Frank pic is from the "Long, Cold Dark" arc. Some amazing writing in that one and i loved its overall bleakness. One of my favourite pieces of writing in the whole MAX run in this panel, disregard the hideous Chaykin art:

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

I think we talked about this briefly already ITT a while back but i have to say again i hate how widely inconsistent Parlov is. I love the euros, Burchielli is probably my favourite one, and i like Parlov's art quite a bit but he always finds ways to make things look weird or off.

I think the only thing from Parlov that I've read was Starlight which he did with Mark Millar. That was a good mini

 

[40 Year Old Boomer]

Not even a shapeshifter. (S)he sort of trades positions and circumstances (and maybe powers I don't remember) with people

Skinwalking makes perfect sense as a tranny power, though.

In today's news, the new X-book, NYX, gave Prodigy an even zestier boyfriend with a fisting tattoo.

Not gonna lie, felt pretty gross clicking "insert thumbnail" on this one.

 

[jspit2.0]

I read American Flagg years ago and wasn't impressed with it. The only other thing I've read from Chaykin was a Buck Rogers arc from a decade or so ago where Howie spent the entire story simping for communism.

I don't think he was ever any good.

He is a communist. His artwork has its moments. But no. I don't particularly care for him overall.

I'm probably a million years late to this, but I've been reading the Geoff Johns/Richard Donner era of Superman, alongside the Sterling Gates run of Supergirl.

Best era of Supergirl, Kelly Puckett's run was better. (Short, but so much better).

Everyone I talked to warned me that this run was vanilla as fuck and not worth reading, but so far it's super enjoyable. Great characterizations for Clark and Lois, really cool takes on Brainiac and Zod, and I like the way Gary Frank draws Supes like Chris Reeve.

Donner writes the first half and elevates Johns. Those stories are all good. Bizzaro, Zod, the Annual. Then there's Busiek writing Up Up and Away. Geoff Johns wrote maybe half that run, which is actually his second of three runs on the Superman titles over twenty years.

is...bland as fuck. The Legion story is fine if it wasn't a SUPERMAN story. Geoff gets Superman wrong, he's never felt isolated from humanity. He then brutally writes a terrible couple of Batbashing issues. Then he writes a really lame brainiac story before the Superman Origins, that is underrated and forgotten because of how poorly it got published.

Gary Frank's artwork is amazing and the primary reason I care about the solo Johns material.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Then he writes a really lame brainiac story before the Superman Origins, that is underrated and forgotten because of how poorly it got published.

Gary Frank's artwork is amazing and the primary reason I care about the solo Johns material.

Superman: Secret Orgin's take on Parasite really worked for me.

What do you guys think of Ghost Machine so far? I'm enjoying Redcoat the most out of all of them

 

[jspit2.0]

They did it again guys....

Fuck Marc Silvestri. So...Witchblade is one of those things that makes you realize copyright is FUCKING bullshit!. Marc didn't draw the book. Mike Turner did. Dave Wohl wrote it, with Christina Z. But then the 90s ended, Turner got cancer, and ever since then Marc has been a fag, seeming to apologize for a sexy, feminine character. Ron Marz was cringe enough. But now they're bringing the character back!

The artist isn't bad, don't know what blackmail Silvestri has to get Giuseppe Cafaro to draw this shit....But Marguerite Bennett is writing. The bitch that gave us this...

But this talentless bitch's greatest sin is she makes every...single...woman...gay! Batlesbian, even canon straight characters like Angela (bitch got blacked, canonically straight or at least bi.). FUCK! she even created a LESBIAN Universe in bombshells. Is there one fucking straight character in that book?

So Marc Silverstein gives a character created by men. A toxically female character, a symbol of femininity; one of the last few created and hands it to this dyke bitch. Just fuck it.

I read the issue. It's bad. Everything that stood out is gone. Sara looks like the usual girl boss. She acts like one, with an approved body type (breast reduction and all), and dresses in shapeless clothing. Then there's the costume. It looks cool at first glance. But it's been neutered. The original was humiliating and scary. Of course Bennett misses the point....

The witchblade pre Marz was a horror. It was something She never controlled. It was humiliating to wear and terrifying. It brings back the dead but not really. It tears through groups of people. None of that comes through here. It's sanitized...

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Skinwalking makes perfect sense as a tranny power, though.

In today's news, the new X-book, NYX, gave Prodigy an even zestier boyfriend with a fisting tattoo.
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oh right the guy that had all intriguing potential just cut off due to No More Mutants.

and they made him into a black metrosexual. okay?

He is a communist. His artwork has its moments. But no. I don't particularly care for him overall.



Best era of Supergirl, Kelly Puckett's run was better. (Short, but so much better).




Donner writes the first half and elevates Johns. Those stories are all good. Bizzaro, Zod, the Annual. Then there's Busiek writing Up Up and Away. Geoff Johns wrote maybe half that run, which is actually his second of three runs on the Superman titles over twenty years.

is...bland as fuck. The Legion story is fine if it wasn't a SUPERMAN story. Geoff gets Superman wrong, he's never felt isolated from humanity. He then brutally writes a terrible couple of Batbashing issues. Then he writes a really lame brainiac story before the Superman Origins, that is underrated and forgotten because of how poorly it got published.

Gary Frank's artwork is amazing and the primary reason I care about the solo Johns material.

geoff johns superman was mid overall.

i wish they used the whole Sam Lane surviving Imperiex to start an anti-kryptonian government project to better effect. interesting ideas, shite execution.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

oh right the guy that had all intriguing potential just cut off due to No More Mutants.

and they made him into a black metrosexual. okay?

Don't forget that to see the final page for the X-books now, you need to scan a QR code to read it on your phone.

I'm not joking, they are that retarded.