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I feel that I should mention that the character America Chavaz has been around for a few years now, and has been much better written in virtually every other appearance she's been in. She is a regular in the post-Secret Wars Ultimates series, which has been a mostly (the Civil War II tie-in was meh) entertaining series dealing with cosmic issues in the Marvel Universe.

This does seem to be a trend I've noticed at Marvel, where certain characters have had terrible solo series but have been enjoyable in team books or as supporting characters.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
I also heard that there's a scene where America refers to the child she saves (despite looking like a girl) as "they" since she doesn't want to assume gender.

EDIT: You know an SJW comic book is bad when even a number of The Mary Sue's comment section are unable to defend it.

What's also interesting is the user reviews are a lot lower than the professional ones that are.
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It's times like these I'm glad my mother tongue doesn't have gendered pronouns. If I was a kid and someone had referred to me as "it" or "they" I would be weirded out and dehumanized rather that think "Ooh, how considerate of her".

Electra #01 isn't any better either, unfortunately. One would think that after the whole Angela: Queen of Hel debacle Marvel would've learned their lesson not to hire people who can't read anything else than blatant self-gratification and virtue signalling. Then again, maybe having Matt Owen pr Gabby Rivera around serves the purpose of making Nick Spencer and Mark Waid's SJW pandering seem subtle by comparison...
 
This probably belongs in an "unpopular opinions thread", but IMO comic books are mainly just ADHD fodder, and heavy interest in comic books tends to go hand in hand with autism, for similar reasons as to why anime, Sonic, etc tend to be sperg masturbatory aids; you basically just have flat, vibrant, 1-dimensional characters which are easier for spergs to relate to than more in-depth characters in actual literature.

I also think the fact that they are still in-print despite the printed format being as outdated as printed newspapers and encyclopedias is a testament to the high levels of autism that go hand-in-hand with comic book fandom.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
It's stuff like this that's the reason I can't totally dislike Rob Leifield.
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Leifield has terrible art but he's always been dedicated to comics as comics. So he's never been completely reprehensible, as far as I know.

There are so few Marvel things that I care to look at these days, I just bought more DC Rebirth and a couple Image things.

One of the things I got was called The Prince of Cats. It's... unique. It can quite literally be summarized as "Romeo and Juliet in an urban city but the family feud has been turned into samurai sword fights." The art is quite stylish and enjoyable, but the pseudo-Shakespeare dialogue can get grating. It honestly distracts from the narrative at points, though it sometimes is pretty neat, like where one character goes off on a long tangent about how to give blowjobs. I think it was a worthy purchase, but I can't say that I'd put it on a "must read" list. Depends on the kind of person you are, a lot.

I've also seen Horizon on the shelf and flipped through it, but it doesn't seem like much happens in the first volume. Has anybody actually read it?
 
Does anyone have any expectations or predictions now that Marvel Rebirth is more or less confirmed to be happening by this fall? Ike still needs to retire and take his lackeys like Bendis and Brevoort along with him but it's a start.

Also I wish someone would've made DC's early concepts for Black Lightning a thing. Before they went with some guy with lightning powers he was going to be a white racist who becomes a super strong black man when he gets angry. That would make for a funny story.
 
RockVolnutt said:
Does anyone have any expectations or predictions now that Marvel Rebirth is more or less confirmed to be happening by this fall?
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TBH I don't have high hopes for it. I haven't been keeping up on most Marvel stuff lately, but what I've seen has been really pander-y and mouthpiece-like. I fear they'll use it as an excuse to make every a gay/pan pee-oh-cee trans mentally ill individual to try and draw in the SJW crowd further.

I would love to be proven wrong, though. Is this just to compete with DC or have they also realized that what they're doing isn't working?
 
Picked up the first three issues of the Misfits Jem comic spinoff. It's really good. I like how they're delving into the band's past. It was a really good idea to give them their own comic to flesh out their characters better. Even Stormer's fat acceptance plot was handled well and didn't get severely preachy.
Not to mention the art is much better than the person who did the recent Jem comics.
 
RockVolnutt said:
Does anyone have any expectations or predictions now that Marvel Rebirth is more or less confirmed to be happening by this fall? Ike still needs to retire and take his lackeys like Bendis and Brevoort along with him but it's a start.

Also I wish someone would've made DC's early concepts for Black Lightning a thing. Before they went with some guy with lightning powers he was going to be a white racist who becomes a super strong black man when he gets angry. That would make for a funny story.
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Capn Cummings already did a look through of the preview issue that had a look into the X-Men and Inhumans series and it still remains. Since there's a scene where Jean Gray berates Angel for saving her in a fight from an attack she would've gotten badly injured in if he did nothing. And guess whose side we're supposed to take.

SnowBall said:
Picked up the first three issues of the Misfits Jem comic spinoff. It's really good. I like how they're delving into the band's past. It was a really good idea to give them their own comic to flesh out their characters better. Even Stormer's fat acceptance plot was handled well and didn't get severely preachy.
Not to mention the art is much better than the person who did the recent Jem comics.
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Say, how is Blaze's trans status handled as well?
 
RockVolnutt said:
This whole thing might be better suited to the comic thread but IMO the X-Men should abandon trying to be a metaphor for minorities because it's always been a strained metaphor except in cases like explaining Magneto's world view. Mutants are just people with weird genes that make them shit out random superpowers after puberty, many times uncontrollably and possibly disfiguring the person. Take that kid from Ultimate X-Men who's mutation was producing acids that broke down any organic matter that ended up killing his town before Logan had to put him down.

The minority metaphor wasn't even the original intention despite what you hear everywhere about the X-Men. Originally it was associated with nuclear power before they made it a puberty metaphor and then made it a minority metaphor shortly before All-New All-Different X-Men became a thing. Some writers tried making it into a more reasonable metaphor for evolution which is why the X-Men themselves call themselves "Homo Superior" and talk about being the future of humanity but that theme gets drowned out by the minority shit making them come off as just a different shade of supremacist that Magneto is.

Basically the X-Men/Mutants are the shitiest possible metaphor for racial minorities/LGBT movement/illegal immigrants/whatever unless you believe that people turn into gay black people who breath fire once puberty kicks.
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Reposting this here. Not to say themes about fear and prejudice don't work for them, just it loses any logic when you try to equate it to anything in the real world because there's nothing IRL like some kid who might have a harmless mutation like jumping real high who might randomly have a secondary mutation kick in that makes them into an uncontrollable nuke.
 
RockVolnutt said:
Does anyone have any expectations or predictions now that Marvel Rebirth is more or less confirmed to be happening by this fall? Ike still needs to retire and take his lackeys like Bendis and Brevoort along with him but it's a start.

Also I wish someone would've made DC's early concepts for Black Lightning a thing. Before they went with some guy with lightning powers he was going to be a white racist who becomes a super strong black man when he gets angry. That would make for a funny story.
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Wolerines's return, I'm hoping for Steve Rodgers to be the American symbol again, I'm hoping Spidey and Mary-Jane are a thing again, and I'm hoping the X-men will be included again. I know this is wishful thinking though
 
Does anyone have any recommendations for really good horror comics? The kind where there is actually horrifying stuff, like Alan Moore's providence and associated or swamp thing run or Fall of Cthulhu or Mike Mignola's work? I'm not overly picky I don't think, and I don't just want to read lovecraftian stuff, it just seems like every horror comic I read that isn't somewhat lovecraftian is just a mystery with monsters in it and I want something that will fuck me up.
 
So I started reading the Power Rangers comic Boom's putting out. It's actually surprisingly good.

Ineedahero said:
Does anyone have any recommendations for really good horror comics? The kind where there is actually horrifying stuff, like Alan Moore's providence and associated or swamp thing run or Fall of Cthulhu or Mike Mignola's work? I'm not overly picky I don't think, and I don't just want to read lovecraftian stuff, it just seems like every horror comic I read that isn't somewhat lovecraftian is just a mystery with monsters in it and I want something that will fuck me up.
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The Archie Horror brand is actually pretty good, from what I've read of it. Afterlife with Archie is a surprisingly entertaining read with great art, and Sabrina is an absolutely gorgeous period piece along the lines of Rosemary's Baby in tone.
 
Hodor said:
The Archie Horror brand is actually pretty good, from what I've read of it. Afterlife with Archie is a surprisingly entertaining read with great art, and Sabrina is an absolutely gorgeous period piece along the lines of Rosemary's Baby in tone.
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God damn, you nailed it - I just read the first six issues of Sabrina and it was exactly what I am looking for. I doubt zombie Archie will be that good, but if it even approaches it I will be thrilled. Cheers again.
 
America #2 is just as bad as the first issue, if not worse. America is just such an unlikable character, Moon Girl doesn't really act like a 9-year-old and the art is still crap.
 
I'm still amazed they managed to fuck up her book so badly. This is a character who's super power is she is able to freely traverse the multiverse at will, regardless of the tone you want to take there are tons of potential stories she can be used in. This is the same character who, during Civil War II, got so fed up with Captain Marvel's shit she decked her with a fucking chair like she was an 90s ECW star.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
America #2 is just as bad as the first issue, if not worse. America is just such an unlikable character, Moon Girl doesn't really act like a 9-year-old and the art is still crap.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=je_7sB2MutA
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How aren't writers like this fired after the first issue? Chuck Austen and Shane McCarthy seem competent in comparison.

While not quite as shitty, Spider-Man #25 is prettty cringeworthy as well.
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Is Dan Slott getting better?
 
ShittyRecolor said:
How aren't writers like this fired after the first issue? Chuck Austen and Shane McCarthy seem competent in comparison.

While not quite as shitty, Spider-Man #25 is prettty cringeworthy as well.
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Is Dan Slott getting better?
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I will never not be a salty fucker over Slott. Spider-Man has been a godawful read for most of this past decade, and partially because he's such an unfunny fucker. His sense of dialogue is so abysmal- which is a problem, considering snappy dialogue is the whole point of Webhead. The worst part is, it's not that hard to at least polish his dialogue either. Make a single tweak to this page and the flow runs so much better. Just change the first dialogue box in panel 2 to "We're in Hong Kong." Nothing more, nothing less.

"We're in Hong Kong."
"I'm just used to beating up people of all races and creeds."
[beat]
"That's how I do it in New York..."

bam, flow is substantially less awkward. Still not particularly good or anything, but at least the flow isn't as stilted.

Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
America #2 is just as bad as the first issue, if not worse. America is just such an unlikable character, Moon Girl doesn't really act like a 9-year-old and the art is still crap.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=je_7sB2MutA
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I wonder if the Image version of the concept is any better. I mean it's painfully obvious it's supposed to be America Chavez from the MU.
 
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