Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Captain Syrup]

The murder plot was just an excuse to get things rolling.

It was just a network pitch.

Much like the car crash in Mulholland Drive (before he got it made as a movie). I suppose the networks were afraid of trusting him again.

I haven't watched a single goddamn episode of nuTrek because I don't hate myself and I'm intelligent enough to know that it's a waste of time.

I honestly stopped watching when it went from "which insane world are we visiting today?!" to "who is your daddy and what does he do?". So, like, 2016 or so.

Still can't believe they're on show #5.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

I've little interest in nutrek anymore. If a show pops up and runs for two or three seasons and everyone keeps telling me its based I might look into it. Strange new worlds doesn't sound interesting at all.

Paramount can have every copyright in the world. Rodenberry has passed away and is forever outside their grasp.

 

[Polyboros2]

I predicted the ending to LOST would be nonsensical shit because they had literally just done the exact same thing with Cloverfield. I don't actually know why people were suddenly talking about LOST circa 2008-2009 when I first heard about it and predicted it would have a shit ending since the series started in 2004, but the moment I heard the same people who did Cloverfield were behind it I knew it was gonna be shit.

Looking back on it, I also notice Netflix's streaming service was becoming a big deal around the 2008-2009 leg too. The ability to just binge all the episodes of LOST and get caught up on the "plot" you missed out on without having to buy a DVD set was probably a big bonus for that show's fucking Reddit-tier (Then MSN-tier, I suppose) audience. So that's two abortions of modern culture that shared some kind of terrible collusion following the cursed Year of our Lord 2007 after the Iphone came out and normiefied the internet.

I too predicted that Lost was just making shit up as it went, for YEARS I had to have friends and Podcasts gloat on and on about how the show was all planned out, everything was leading to a grand conclusion. Then, in an instant, after that finale dropped, it all shifted to "It was never about the story, it was about the CHARACTERS!". Get fucked Lost fans, you got mystery boXXXed.

If jamming MAGA into the first episode isn't going full SJW I'm not sure what is. Plus there are so many fucking women on this show it's comical. When things are 50/50 your brain tends not to notice. When it's practically 80/20 women to men it's being done on purpose. And of course the women are the ones driving the action.

As someone who has actually watched the episode, and rewatched that scene to confirm what I thought I watched, I don't think including January 6th footage was a grand political statement. Not to say it wasn't one(definitely more than the poorly chosen stock footage of protests in Ukraine upsetting lefties), but I don't think it was the intended goal from the onset.

Why? Because Pike narration over January 6th footage was "It started as... a fight for freedom." That is NOT anything that would be stated if the point of that scene was to say Trump caused Civl War II/Eugenics War/WWIII. I'm betting the footage was chosen in post, and at most the director gave it the thumbs up for brownie points with out really thinking about it(if the director had any input on the footage's use at all, and it didn't come from an even dumber executive.)

 

[White Devil]

My favorite show of all time is The Drew Carey Show. You couldn't even get something like that made today and Carey at least has the integrity to block it's release in a cut, up butchered format without all the music licensed.

 

[Lithos]

Probably should be posted, anyway...

 

[Muppetstudios]

The new Orville trailer looks great the Star Trek we could have had

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

So looks like some sites got their hands on Strange New Worlds episode 3 early, and it gets political, referencing "Earth's History" again. It also gets very Enterprise-y and decides to retcon the origins of a classic Trek race, the Caitans, and go into more Eugenics War lore.

Spoiler

Pike explains that the Eugenics Wars on Earth first started from a nationalist group coming to power and trying to genetically engineer humans into catboys who didn't need femoids to reproduce.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Twin Peaks is a weird example where this kind of stringing-the-viewer-along tactic was actually intended

Don't do my boy Lynch dirty like that. He told you exactly what kind of show Twin Peaks was by including a soap opera within the show

 

[XYZpdq]

I was never into Lost but my dad was for a bit, but when the polar bear showed up he was like "they're just making this shit up as they go" and dropped it.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

So looks like some sites got their hands on Strange New Worlds episode 3 early, and it gets political, referencing "Earth's History" again. It also gets very Enterprise-y and decides to retcon the origins of a classic Trek race, the Caitans, and go into more Eugenics War lore.

Spoiler

Pike explains that the Eugenics Wars on Earth first started from a nationalist group coming to power and trying to genetically engineer humans into catboys who didn't need femoids to reproduce.

….are they literally about to blame the Eugenics Wars on

Spoiler

alt-right incel furries?

Is that the new low we’ve hit?

 

[Starscreams Cape]

So looks like some sites got their hands on Strange New Worlds episode 3 early, and it gets political, referencing "Earth's History" again. It also gets very Enterprise-y and decides to retcon the origins of a classic Trek race, the Caitans, and go into more Eugenics War lore.

Spoiler

Pike explains that the Eugenics Wars on Earth first started from a nationalist group coming to power and trying to genetically engineer humans into catboys who didn't need femoids to reproduce.

Of course they did. And we'll probably still have poor dopes saying "you know, it's not as bad as Discovery so I think I'm just gonna keep watching and hope it gets better."

 

[White Devil]

Of course they did. And we'll probably still have poor dopes saying "you know, it's not as bad as Discovery so I think I'm just gonna keep watching and hope it gets better."

This is turning into the Star Wars thread. All those poor saps whining about how much Disney is ruining everything, but still consuming every single thing they release. I finally had to unwatch because it just got unbearable.

 

[Joe Swanson]

Pike explains that the Eugenics Wars on Earth first started from a nationalist group coming to power and trying to genetically engineer humans into catboys who didn't need femoids to reproduce.

So, Nick Fuentes causes the Eugenics war, thank God in this timeline he's a laughingstock

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

So, Nick Fuentes causes the Eugenics war, thank God in this timeline he's a laughingstock

Fuentes eventually changes his name because of that... Ditches the mustache, grows his hair out... Goes from declaring he's gonna be the next Stalin to that he's gonna be the next Genghis.

 

[Uranus Pink]

In real world militaries that will actually happen due to the compartmentalized nature of security clearances. An admiral in charge of fleet ops doesn't need to know about the latest ELINT/SIGNIT program and helps limits leaks from his staff.

U.S. military this is very real when and wherever high value shit need to kept OPSEC from everybody who don't need to know. And will tagged and bagged Darwin Awardees who didn't get the hint to turn around and walk away.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

This is turning into the Star Wars thread. All those poor saps whining about how much Disney is ruining everything, but still consuming every single thing they release. I finally had to unwatch because it just got unbearable.

Yep. At least use BeeTV or something like that if you need to keep watching this garbage.

 

[L50LasPak]

Pike explains that the Eugenics Wars on Earth first started from a nationalist group coming to power and trying to genetically engineer humans into catboys who didn't need femoids to reproduce.

I feel like Khan and company would have a problem with that considering, you know, their group contained a fair amount of women. I guess its up to the viewer whether or not Khan's attitude in Space Seed came off as sexist and manipulative or merely just manipulative, but there's no indication Khan's followers followed any kind of philosophy like that.

I figure this is going to be a hackneyed excuse to make Khan a good guy, and the ultimate reason he left Earth with his followed is because they were misunderstood or some shit. Whatever.

Don't do my boy Lynch dirty like that. He told you exactly what kind of show Twin Peaks was by including a soap opera within the show

I did say it was intended, and written into the show from the start. In Lynch's case, stringing the viewer along was to drag them into this increasingly bizarre world of weird people, this weird town, and their weird shit, rather than just trying to get the viewer to tune in next week.

Its really not the same thing at all as what X-Files and LOST did, but it could be mistaken for it by someone unaware of what the whole plan was from the outset so I felt the need to mention it.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Fuentes eventually changes his nane...grows his hair out... Goes from declaring he's gonna be the next Stalin to he's gonna be the next Khan

From left to right: Nick Fuentes, Donald Trump Jr., Laura Loomer, Kanye West

I figure this is going to be a hackneyed excuse to make Khan a good guy, and the ultimate reason he left Earth with his followed is because they were misunderstood or some shit. Whatever.

All we need now is an enforcer who hunts down Augments for their crimes, and the B5 ripoff will be complete. But the writers would never be that blatant. Would they?

 

[Screamer]

It was full of attractive people doing interesting character stuff, with (for the time) really high production values for a TV show. I tuned out early on after realizing it was a shaggy dog story, but it wasn't bad TV by any stretch, and is probably JJ's finest work.

I think JJ was out of the writer's room completely partway through season 1. He was just part of the creative brain trust in starting the show. Similar to shows like Fringe. I remember Howard Stern once busting JJ's balls over if he had even seen every episode of Fringe. The answer was no.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

One thing that bugs me about Star Trek Picard is how Picard talks about space as though he was a normal everyday 21st century person who went to space for the first time.