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Uranus Pink said:
People were a lot more receptive to The Calling's song Wherever You Will Go which was played on ENT's promos. So when ENT started airing with that other song, people were pissed to put it extremely mildly.

Another alternative take on the opening
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Eh yeah, that looks and sounds identical to me to the original two Enterprise themes we got (maybe moreso the first.) It's still a shitty mid 2000's song that really doesn't fit Trek at all.

I know I literally just said that I liked an 80's sitcom theme better as a potential theme for Enterprise... but if I'm being honest, I would have ultimately preferred a theme for Enterprise more in line with TNG, DS9, and to a lesser extent Voyager- i.e. orchestral and big
 
UnKillFill said:
Eh yeah, that looks and sounds identical to me to the original two Enterprise themes we got (maybe moreso the first.) It's still a shitty mid 2000's song that really doesn't fit Trek at all.

I know I literally just said that I liked an 80's sitcom theme better as a potential theme for Enterprise... but if I'm being honest, I would have ultimately preferred a theme for Enterprise more in line with TNG, DS9, and to a lesser extent Voyager- i.e. orchestral and big
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More like this maybe?
 
What I don't get with all of these "Let's put this other traditional song on the Intro for the main theme." is that Enterprise already had a perfectly fine, perfectly Star-Trek'y theme since the begining.

The credit theme! And it's clearly mean to be the theme of the series as this melody appears time and time against in the series in the sound track.
This should have been the fucking theme, it probably was the theme, up until some fucking executive felt like "What if we put this one song on the soundtrack, what if Faith of the Heart becomes the next I'll Be There for You? We'll praticaly have the radio advertising the show!"
 
UnKillFill said:
yeah, that's actually alright. Better than Faith of the heart at any rate.
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I like how in this entire discussion, no one even ackowledges the intros of nuTrek...
Given that they rank somewhere in between the sound from Cakefarts and the death-rattle of your firstborn son, I am not exactly surprised.

rabo said:
What I don't get with all of these "Let's put this other traditional song on the Intro for the main theme." is that Enterprise already had a perfectly fine, perfectly Star-Trek'y theme since the begining.

The credit theme! And it's clearly mean to be the theme of the series as this melody appears time and time against in the series in the sound track.
This should have been the fucking theme, it probably was the theme, up until some fucking executive felt like "What if we put this one song on the soundtrack, what if Faith of the Heart becomes the next I'll Be There for You? We'll praticaly have the radio advertising the show!"
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I just put the audio over the opening on tubedubber and it does work out pretty nicely.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
I like how in this entire discussion, no one even ackowledges the intros of nuTrek...
Given that they rank somewhere in between the sound from Cakefarts and the death-rattle of your firstborn son, I am not exactly surprised.
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Discovery's opening is oddly low energy. I can't remember Picard's (possibly have repressed memories of that show) and I refuse to watch any of Lower Decks.

I think I like Voyager's theme the most.
 
I was reading about Ira Steven Behr wanting to end DS9 on a scene with Benny which would frame it as this thing that he was just writing with the excuse that "well it's a show written by real writers anyway so what would be so odd about DS9 (by proxy star trek) as just a creation by a writer character" and hot damn am I glad that he didn't get his way with that. I've kind of turned around on the Benny stuff in the show but ending the series that way would have been awful, worse than an "it was all a dream" type ending.
 
ProfDongs said:
I was reading about Ira Steven Behr wanting to end DS9 on a scene with Benny which would frame it as this thing that he was just writing with the excuse that "well it's a show written by real writers anyway so what would be so odd about DS9 (by proxy star trek) as just a creation by a writer character" and hot damn am I glad that he didn't get his way with that. I've kind of turned around on the Benny stuff in the show but ending the series that way would have been awful, worse than an "it was all a dream" type ending.
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Any writer that comes up with the idea to resolve a plot of an entire movie or TV show via the "it was all just a dream/didn't really happen" trope should be beaten to death with a cast iron typewriter.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Any writer that comes up with the idea to resolve a plot of an entire movie or TV show via the "it was all just a dream/didn't really happen" trope should be beaten to death with a cast iron typewriter.
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Sole exception: Newhart.

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For those too young to get it, that's Bob Newhart's character from his first show waking up there at the end. As an example, imagine if TNG ended with the reveal of Kirk waking up in bed and commenting to the orion girl sleeping next to him.

No. Better example. Imagine the Xmen series of movies ended with Picard waking up and then turning to Beverly Crusher and saying, "You know I just had the strangest dream about these 'mutants'..."

Or if the last episode of Gargoyles was Riker telling Troi about his dream that she and Data were in.
 
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Flexo said:
Sole exception: Newhart.

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For those too young to get it, that's Bob Newhart's character from his first show waking up there at the end. As an example, imagine if TNG ended with the reveal of Kirk waking up in bed and commenting to the orion girl sleeping next to him.

No. Better example. Imagine the Xmen series of movies ended with Picard waking up and then turning to Beverly Crusher and saying, "You know I just had the strangest dream about these 'mutants'..."

Or if the last episode of Gargoyles was Riker telling Troi about his dream that she and Data were in.
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There are exceptions to this, but man, are they rare. Comedy might get away with something like that most easily, but anything that is vaguely going for Drama or Horror is imploding. Essentially everything that has a stakes-driven plot. When you realize that nothing ever was at stake, the whole thing becomes pointless. Comedies seldom have something at stake and their focus is on making the audience laugh, so they get away with more absurd plots for the sake of comedy to begin with. It might actally be funnier when you figure out that nothing was at stake in a comedy, if there is a certain payoff.
 
Zaryiu said:
So to people who don't like ENT intro theme (I think it's not as bad as people say it is (well the first one, I have not yet heard later versions) )would this have worked better?
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doesn't really work for me and probably won't "fix" what people's issue is with it to begin with. at least the original has I GOT FAIF to get stuck in your head.
 
The latest episode of STD was written by someone who used to work on BSG (she wrote the Pegasus episode), it was really bad. I'm starting to wonder if Kurtzman is forcing them to write the shittiest scripts possible.
 
Miller said:
The latest episode of STD was written by someone who used to work on BSG (she wrote the Pegasus episode), it was really bad. I'm starting to wonder if Kurtzman is forcing them to write the shittiest scripts possible.
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A lot of writers that were a part of competent or even great efforts had enough meddling from higher ups and/or collaboration with talented colleagues to keep them from completely going off the rails. Look at Ira Steven Behr and all the dumbass ideas he had as DS9 was winding down. During season 7 where things came closest to jumping the shark were his baby. Luckily there were people to reign him in and shitcan his most brainlet ideas that would have completely ruined the show.
 
XYZpdq said:
watching some of the TOS Special Editions
they're still some pretty nice iterations of "just cg my shit up"
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They do look nice, though there is some charm to the original cheesy SFX in the OG series. Not being able to see the Romulan Bird of Prey limply spin around in space like it was on the end of fishing wire (as it probably was) at the end of "Balance of Terror" is a bit of let down.
 
Is the new Star Trek still ripping off bad Mass Effect stuff?
 
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