Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

[Lichen Bark]

I still don't get why they haven't come out with electric vehicles that are designed so the customer can add their own range extending power source, like a generator that uses gas or diesel or a fuel cell or just another battery pack

Adding a generator just really doesn't get you much, the added weight of everything just eats up more range, offsetting whatever you would gain. Sure it works for a train, but when you look at the small form factor of the car, I haven't seen it work. Also you would need an inverter generator, those things aren't cheap. Then everything has to pass crash test safety, and I don't see how something like that would pass, when a consumer could "add in" whatever power source they see fit.

The Cybertruck has another battery you can buy to extend the range. Takes up half the limited bed space though.

Here's a guy who tried the generator extended Tesla (10,000 watt). I can see why nobody does it, imagine the noise. 70db IN THE CAR.

Spoiler: Is it a bit loud bud?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Also because freedom of choice isn't the point of EVs lol.

If only there was a type of vehicle that used an energy source that was also able to be easily carried along for multiple fill-ups. You could put it in something as simple as plastic jugs and just...go anywhere.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I still don't get why they haven't come out with electric vehicles that are designed so the customer can add their own range extending power source, like a generator that uses gas or diesel or a fuel cell or just another battery pack

Chevy Volt, now discontinued, is one of the few with a gas engine that charges a battery bank to drive electric motors. It didn't sell in vast numbers and got the chopping block.

 

[Betonhaus]

Chevy Volt, now discontinued, is one of the few with a gas engine that charges a battery bank to drive electric motors. It didn't sell in vast numbers and got the chopping block.

That was more of a marketing issue then a technical issue, the car itself was good

 

[Thiletonomics]

I still don't get why they haven't come out with electric vehicles that are designed so the customer can add their own range extending power source, like a generator that uses gas or diesel or a fuel cell or just another battery pack

Chevy Volt, now discontinued, is one of the few with a gas engine that charges a battery bank to drive electric motors. It didn't sell in vast numbers and got the chopping block.

Two other examples include the BMW i3, which has an optional 2-cylinder engine range extender, and the original Fisker Karma used a gas engine as a generator as well. Both of those cars also did not sell well at all.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

That was more of a marketing issue then a technical issue, the car itself was good

That GM's problems with many good cars. They had a great car with the SS but marketed it so poorly. I believe the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice suffered a similar fate.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I still don't get why they haven't come out with electric vehicles that are designed so the customer can add their own range extending power source, like a generator that uses gas or diesel or a fuel cell or just another battery pack

I've also wondered why assembling your own car, the same way you'd assemble your own PC, isn't a thing, only to be told that Kit Cars are a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_car

Electric cars are kinda stupid and gay for the most part, but what about a electric kit car?

 

[Betonhaus]

I've also wondered why assembling your own car, the same way you'd assemble your own PC, isn't a thing, only to be told that Kit Cars are a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_car

Electric cars are kinda stupid and gay for the most part, but what about a electric kit car?

extremely convoluted importing rules and difficulty in insuring

 

[BobbyBriggs69420]

Electric cars are kinda stupid and gay for the most part, but what about a electric kit car?

I've seen kits to drop in a tesla motor in place of a small block v8 and just mount it right up to the driveshaft.

I think the battery is the main problem with diy, they are big, ~1000 pounds and factory evs are designed around them, if you want a fun car and decide a small batt for it with 20kwhr/20% the capacity for 20% the range would work, you'd run into the problem there of not enough cells are paralleled inside and you won't have anywhere near the peak output of the 100kwhr pack and you're probably going slower than whatever shitty 1970s smogged v8 you pulled out.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I mean, it's pretty clearly already not working, but that's never stopped anyone. The story BEV proponents liked to tell was that you would soon be able to send your fully automated self-driving car off to act as a taxi while you weren't using it, so you wouldn't have to worry about parking and could make money from it while you did something else. It would spend all its downtime orbiting the city until someone called for a taxi. They even thought it would go and charge itself when it needed to. It was a stupid pipe-dream even before it became clear that self-driving cars are a naive hope at best, but then it quickly morphed into "you don't need a car, there will be an endless supply of self-driving taxis", and then sort of went downhill from there.

The idea of taxi-ing strangers is retarded. First of all who knows what the fuck your unattended car will be used to and what would be left in it. Second thing is one of the advantages of a car is being able to arrive everywhere fast, not needing to wait 2 hours for it to finish everything before you are "allowed" to go back home.

 

[SangeAndYasha]

Anyone have a better idea of what is going on inside Tesla? As a layman it looks like there's impending financial doom due to revenue dropping off a cliff on the car sale side. Seems like the bald obese muskrat is cutting costs on things that have no immediate impact in hopes that numbers line up correctly the next month. But something has to be really fucking off considering the scale and semi-unplanned nature of the layoffs. Anyways its endlessly amusing they have to keep the retarded humanoid robotics circus intact to try and fleece retail investors while more critical business components get killed. I'm hoping this turns into an Enron type of deal where shit just disintegrates overnight.

I have no sympathy to the moron engineers or business side wired closely into the company. They're too stupid too see where the chips fall and their place in the game.

TTD - Total TESLA Death

 

[Betonhaus]

I think I've heard stories from years ago where people like engineers who were working at Tesla said it was a shit and stressful job, but they were too caught up in the energy to care. I think the energy ran out

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

How is it even legal to have airbags not based on a mechanical process? It's basically asking for a PC freeze to kill everyone in the car.

You're in a bullet proof car. Why do you need airbags?

Pretty sure someone tardwrangled Elon into settling for bulletproof, instead of Nokia phone meme chasis.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Anyone have a better idea of what is going on inside Tesla? As a layman it looks like there's impending financial doom due to revenue dropping off a cliff on the car sale side. Seems like the bald obese muskrat is cutting costs on things that have no immediate impact in hopes that numbers line up correctly the next month. But something has to be really fucking off considering the scale and semi-unplanned nature of the layoffs. Anyways its endlessly amusing they have to keep the retarded humanoid robotics circus intact to try and fleece retail investors while more critical business components get killed. I'm hoping this turns into an Enron type of deal where shit just disintegrates overnight.

I have no sympathy to the moron engineers or business side wired closely into the company. They're too stupid too see where the chips fall and their place in the game.

TTD - Total TESLA Death

I'm torn on hating Tesla itself. On one hand it's not as outwardly evil as other companies and occasionally does some fun things. On the other hand, it is involved of the worst goals of globohomo, has terrible products, embody Reddit safe "la meme" culture and it has assuredly killed a fair innocent people in their shitty cars (yeah corpos kill people, but usually those who are connected to it).

...Okay actually listing makes hating it pretty justified.

 

[SangeAndYasha]

I'm torn on hating Tesla itself. On one hand it's not as outwardly evil as other companies and occasionally does some fun things. On the other hand, it is involved of the worst goals of globohomo, has terrible products, embody Reddit safe "la meme" culture and it has assuredly killed a fair innocent people in their shitty cars (yeah corpos kill people, but usually those who are connected to it).

...Okay actually listing makes hating it pretty justified.

Fair enough. Im just butthurt my S&P500 bucks and tax dollars are getting vacuumed up into that clown show.

The Tesla product I actually have the most beef with are the battery banks. I have a feeling one will start a serious forest fire at some point. Given the previous "offgrid" trend I would expect there to be a number of those things are completely forgotten in slowly rotting infrastructure. It'll be sort of like the soviet nuclear lighthouses

 

[The Hardest R]

I know several engineers and project managers at Tesla and they’re continuing to hire. Maybe they’ll be next on the chopping block, who knows.

I think I've heard stories from years ago where people like engineers who were working at Tesla said it was a shit and stressful job, but they were too caught up in the energy to care. I think the energy ran out

That’s correct that many will burn out after just a few months. But having Tesla on the resume is still considered a positive in the STEM world. So most are in it knowing they’ll be chewed up and spit out in six months but end up at a better gig. Takes a certain special person to last beyond that.

 

[indomitable snowman]

I think I've heard stories from years ago where people like engineers who were working at Tesla said it was a shit and stressful job, but they were too caught up in the energy to care. I think the energy ran out

kinda like the lifespan of an electric battery.

 

[The Ugly One]

Anyone have a better idea of what is going on inside Tesla? As a layman it looks like there's impending financial doom due to revenue dropping off a cliff on the car sale side. Seems like the bald obese muskrat is cutting costs on things that have no immediate impact in hopes that numbers line up correctly the next month. But something has to be really fucking off considering the scale and semi-unplanned nature of the layoffs. Anyways its endlessly amusing they have to keep the retarded humanoid robotics circus intact to try and fleece retail investors while more critical business components get killed. I'm hoping this turns into an Enron type of deal where shit just disintegrates overnight.

I have no sympathy to the moron engineers or business side wired closely into the company. They're too stupid too see where the chips fall and their place in the game.

TTD - Total TESLA Death

Sounds like a cashflow problem. Tesla's entire history is overcoming cashflow problems with panic moves.

Legally, they have to keep going with their idiotic robot business. See, for years, Tesla does the same thing every time they're low on cash. Elon has some big event, like AI Day or their investor conference or whatever, and announces some flashy new retardtech that almost certainly is not going to work. But here's the problem, if you tell investors about something and don't actually work on it, that's investor fraud. If you don't actually use any of the capital raised to work on the thing, that's investor fraud. FSD, Tesla Bot, battery swap, Cybertruck, and Semi were all out-of-the-ass promises Elon made to shore up cash shortfalls with investor money.

Problem is, what Tesla needed to be doing for the last decade is getting their horrendous quality problems under control and figure out a reasonable cadence to refresh their models, and rather than do that, they did Elon bullshit.

 

[quaawaa]

Electric hypercar manufacturer Rimac, which is owned by Bugatti, has decided not to make another electric car after only selling 50 out of 150 Neveras:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/rimac-unlikely-to-make-another-electric-hypercar.190983/

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

The Tesla Cybertruck is such a piece of shit the plastics inside are breaking apart on first inspection for some people.