The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Zero Day Defense]

Incel tantrums

"When in doubt, call them a nerd virgin incel!" Also,

Incel tantrums

That's why I ditched the Reddit shit

Damn, I'm good.

Even if I ignored our past exchange you're still concocting a dreadful philosophy that places men and women into a world of hurt, depriving them of their reproductive rights

Feticide is not a right. It has some form of restriction in every body of law on the planet.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

More incel tantrums.

 

[draggs]

@Lord Edge of Leetworth I just wanted to point out you are being such a catty little bitch in the last few pages (which are what I read), and are so unfocused in your ramblings, that it was only by implication that I figured out what your dumbshit amoral opinion of the matter is you're so far down the rabbit hole seething at people

 

[snailslime]

You mean the mishaps like couples having sex and the wife ends up getting pregnant, even though she doesn't want it?

Yes.

Look, if you don't want to get pregnant, you shouldn't have sex in the first place. The whole point of sex is reproduction. The enjoyement you get from sex is to encourage you to have more kids. That's how the nature works. That's how sexual reproduction evolved.

Lol what a retarded take. Something tells me you haven't ever been in an intimate relationship.

And if you really really want to have sex with a man but don't want to get pregnant, you should follow your period cycles and choose an appropriate time for that. Avoiding getting pregnant is that easy.

Again, stupid take.
Men would have trouble waiting as well. A lot of the time they initiate sex.

You don't have to be infertile to be a genetical dead end. Deciding to not having kids is enough too.

How do you know I don't ever want kids?

Lol.
Would you allow couples to abort their disabled baby, because they don't want a disabled child?
Or would you stop that because that is eugenics?

Yes, because some defects can ruin the child's life and cause them extreme, agonizing pain.

"You can't have this opinion if you're a woman and if you do, then you're not a woman."
Such a great logic right there.
What happened to that "Only biological woman are allowed to express their opinions on abortion" thingy? I guess not having "the right opinions" makes me a lesser woman now.

Why do you support ideologies that hurt other women? Do you think it makes you hotter to men?

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

@Lord Edge of Leetworth I just wanted to point out you are being such a catty little bitch in the last few pages (which are what I read), and are so unfocused in your ramblings, that it was only by implication that I figured out what your dumbshit amoral opinion of the matter is you're so far down the rabbit hole seething at people

Thank you for being more cogent than @Zero Day Defense.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Thank you for being more cogent than @Zero Day Defense.

What's the ETA on you working the Reddit out your system?

 

[Haunted Gambler]

You're offering me a naturalistic fallacy. Nature itself does not grant us purpose; it simply retains traits that flourish on Earth's niche. We're not endowed to enjoy sex any more than we are gifted with the faculties to abort its consequences. Your life is your own.

Of course, an anti-natalist would know jack shit about nature and purpose of the living. You deliberately avoid my point here also. I told you the consequences of sex. I told you an easy way to not getting pregnant. Why not having sex is not an option for you?

Lol what a retarded take. Something tells me you haven't ever been in an intimate relationship.

And something tells me you never went to school. Didn't they teach you these stuff?

How do you know I don't ever want kids?

I know that you're lesbian. You will never have kids (Cats don't count).

Why do you support ideologies that hurt other women? Do you think it makes you hotter to men?

I'm pretty sure your ideologies are more hurtful to other women than whatever I believe in. You guys believe that:
-Fetuses are not alive and are parasites (How the fuck something can be not alive and a parasite at the same time?? Follow your own logic).
-One shouldn't suffer the consequences of sleeping around (Learn to be responsible for God's sake. You're a fucking adult).
-All men are evil (Being evil isn't special to just one sex. Anyone can be evil).
It all seems backwards and illogical to me. It's also a very nihilistic way to look on life.

Btw, here's a reminder on how "compassionate" pro-choicers are. But this is probably funny to you guys:

Spoiler: Pro-choicers showing "compassion" to an aborted fetus

 

[Freya]

Of course, an anti-natalist would know jack shit about nature and purpose of the living. You deliberately avoid my point here also. I told you the consequences of sex. I told you an easy way to not getting pregnant. Why not having sex is not an option for you?

And something tells me you never went to school. Didn't they teach you these stuff?

I know that you're lesbian. You will never have kids (Cats don't count).

I'm pretty sure your ideologies are more hurtful to other women than whatever I believe in. You guys believe that:
-Fetuses are not alive and are parasites (How the fuck something can be not alive and a parasite at the same time?? Follow your own logic).
-One shouldn't suffer the consequences of sleeping around (Learn to be responsible for God's sake. You're a fucking adult).
-All men are evil (Being evil isn't special to just one sex. Anyone can be evil).
It all seems backwards and illogical to me. It's also a very nihilistic way to look on life.

Btw, here's a reminder on how "compassionate" pro-choicers are. But this is probably funny to you guys:

Spoiler: Pro-choicers showing "compassion" to an aborted fetus

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edgy humor about dead babies is hilarious. take your virtue signaling to facebook

 

[snailslime]

Of course, an anti-natalist would know jack shit about nature and purpose of the living. You deliberately avoid my point here also. I told you the consequences of sex. I told you an easy way to not getting pregnant. Why not having sex is not an option for you?

Because that's not how healthy humans work.

And something tells me you never went to school. Didn't they teach you these stuff?

Lol yes I had sex ed. They never taught us not to have sex, just to be careful.

I know that you're lesbian. You will never have kids (Cats don't count).

Very original and hurtful insult (I'm bi btw, I get the best of both worlds)

I'm pretty sure your ideologies are more hurtful to other women than whatever I believe in. You guys believe that:
-Fetuses are not alive and are parasites (How the fuck something can be not alive and a parasite at the same time?? Follow your own logic).

Fetuses are as alive as plants. At the start of conception, they are not alive at all.

-One shouldn't suffer the consequences of sleeping around (Learn to be responsible for God's sake. You're a fucking adult).

Dumb puritanistic belief, are you a boomer.

-All men are evil (Being evil isn't special to just one sex. Anyone can be evil).

No shit, sherlock.

It all seems backwards and illogical to me. It's also a very nihilistic way to lookSherlock.

How so? It seems worse to breed like rabbits.

Btw, here's a reminder on how "compassionate" pro-choicers are. But this is probably funny to you guys:

Spoiler: Pro-choicers showing "compassion" to an aborted fetus

View attachment 3138402

Bahahahaha pro-lifers say much worse things.

 

[Shidoen]

Ted Kaczynski's new book just dropped, it's titled "Op's thread and its consequences".

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

Of course, an anti-natalist would know jack shit about nature and purpose of the living. You deliberately avoid my point here also. I told you the consequences of sex. I told you an easy way to not getting pregnant. Why not having sex is not an option for you?

I'm not avoiding your "point" I'm denying its existence. Also not an anti-natalist. Are you a femcel? This tirade gives makes me feel that the answer is "yes."

 

[Hotter Shoeonhead.]

Technically they are just as sentient as plants.

So what?

Whether plants actually feel pain or not is still pretty debated from what I can tell the way they respond to stimuli indicate they do to some small degree.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/can-plants-feel-pain

Fetuses on the other hand definitely do not feel pain until 20 weeks at minimum so technically a fetus is less sentient then a plant.

 

[Hotter Shoeonhead.]

"When in doubt, call them a nerd virgin incel!" Also,

you literally are a self admitted incel why are you mad?

 

[gang weeder]

I know that you're lesbian. You will never have kids (Cats don't count).

So snailslime is also a lesbian. LOL

No wonder she constantly tries to portray all other posters as stereotypes. It's projection.

 

[Haunted Gambler]

Because that's not how healthy humans work.

Healthy humans don't kill their babies because they prevent their hedonistic lifestyle.

Lol yes I had sex ed. They never taught us not to have sex, just to be careful.

Imagine considering current Sex Ed an "education".

Very original and hurtful insult (I'm bi btw, I get the best of both worlds)

Yeah, you're bi alright.
Bipolar, that is.

Fetuses are as alive as plants. At the start of conception, they are not alive at all.

If they're "not alive" how come they become alive after birth? What kind of a magic occurs there, "science" believer?
Lol plants are alive as much as you are, dummy. They do every activity you do in your daily life. They even do the wonderful thing called photosynthesis. No "non-living" being can do these things.

Dumb puritanistic belief, are you a boomer.

Believing that actions should have consequences = Boomer mentality apparently. It's called being an adult. Grow up and face the real world.

Bahahahaha pro-lifers say much worse things.

They're not the ones who say "It's just a clump of cells".
Or "It's not even alive anyways".
Or "It's a parasite".
Why don't you try saying those to women who recently had miscarriages? Wonder how they will react?

I'm not avoiding your "point" I'm denying its existence. Also not an anti-natalist. Are you a femcel? This tirade gives makes me feel that the answer is "yes."

"If in doubt, call people incels. If female, call them femcels."
Have an actual argument, please. I beg of you.

 

[Lord Edge of Leetworth]

"If in doubt, call people incels. If female, call them femcels."
Have an actual argument, please. I beg of you.

Alright my sex-starved beggar. I'll give you a little masculine attention. "Look if you don't want to get pregnant, you shouldn't have sex in the first place" is not an argument, just puritanical hubris. Naturalistic fallacies (e.g. the point of sex is to breed) are reductive nonsense. If these fallacies were acceptable we could be defending infanticide right now. But we're not discussing infants. We're discussing foetuses: Clusters of cells devoid of persons and all of their observable properties. And to be very specific this doesn't address late-term foetuses, just early-term foetuses (i.e. 24 weeks max.) Pro-lifers want to abolish harmless, safe and simple abortions for women that aren't even carrying persons within themselves. Hence, pro-lifers are infringing upon a woman's reproductive rights without good reason. They simply want to control women. And that is morally abhorrent. Are you satisfied?

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Here's my two cents on the issue, abortion is only justifiable for medical reasons, otherwise there's no reason for you to do it.

Don't want a baby? Just give it up for adoption, simple and easy.

And yes, a fetus is technically alive, it isn't sapient like we are though.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/

Btw, here's a reminder on how "compassionate" pro-choicers are. But this is probably funny to you guys:

Spoiler: Pro-choicers showing "compassion" to an aborted fetus

Twits on Twatter are gonna twat, it's also impressive how the gals on that site are often so mentally ill even for their own good.

EDIT: Some of the replies are fucking gross, I seriously hope they are ugly and fat and never have sex with anyone.

 

[crows in guns]

Killing babies are wrong unless they are Niggers. Also women are dump.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

you literally are a self admitted incel

I'm not.

That also wasn't the point of that comment, but I suspect you don't talk in an attempt to convey ideas.

 

[Hotter Shoeonhead.]

Don't want a baby? Just give it up for adoption, simple and easy.

It’s not so simple though foster care system can be very abusive

https://booth.law/california-foster-care-system/

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5896724002

Sex Abuse and the Foster Care System - Focus for Health

The foster care system is tasked with protecting the welfare of children suffering from abuse and neglect. However, many children taken from their families are subjected to sexual abuse and left in a more vulnerable and traumatized state. Several localized studies demonstrate the startling...

www.focusforhealth.org

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10626608/

https://theappeal.org/the-damage-done-by-foster-care-systems/

https://www.rosenfeldinjurylawyers.com/amp/statistics-of-abuse-and-neglect-in-foster-care.html

But seriously good point I think abortion should be more of last resort in these types of things like bill clinton said it should be legal,safe and rare the first thing to do is allowing for contraceptive methods and sex ed then creating a safer foster care and adoption system then increasing welfare spending and expanding the social safety net Remember the main reason women abort their fetus is because they can not economically provide for it.

This is common science But republicans will screech about ‘muh big gubmit bad’ the reason I dislike these republican ‘’pro-lifers’’ is that they clearly just want to punish women for having sex and not actually do anything to remove abortion as a primary need nor do they care about kids.