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The Israelis imported it into Modern Hebrew vulgar slang, just like they did with many Arabic, Russian and Yiddish vulgarisms.
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There was a point when they had credibility.
What happened to RationalWiki was not an isolated incident.
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Oh how the mighty have fallen ;( I can emphasize ;(
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I am ... not surprised this happened. 
Now, I'm pretty hard right-wing, so feel free to take my comments with a grain of salt, but I am sorry to see DK go downhill. The Internet makes it easy to find information, but it also makes it easy for idiots to shout over the rational people, and the idiots have been out in force for the past few years. Especially the perpetually-offended ones. If DailyKos used to be home to a lot more people like @Jaimas , then it's definitely a loss to see it crash and burn.
Now, I'm pretty hard right-wing, so feel free to take my comments with a grain of salt, but I am sorry to see DK go downhill. The Internet makes it easy to find information, but it also makes it easy for idiots to shout over the rational people, and the idiots have been out in force for the past few years. Especially the perpetually-offended ones. If DailyKos used to be home to a lot more people like @Jaimas , then it's definitely a loss to see it crash and burn.
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Really, the only thing I give a shit about them is their crusade against the TPP and for internet rights (because frankly, those are serious issues when you look at it). Everything else they talk about reek of either SJW bullshit, or people with too much time on their hands trying to fight little thing they can.
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Who wants to see a juicy kossak slap fight?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/3/1465654/-Sanders-Campaign-Imploding
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/3/1465654/-Sanders-Campaign-Imploding
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The site used to pretty cool. I remember its eponymous founder used to impose some quality control, such as banning members who tried to claim that Bush's winning of Ohio (and thus the election) in 2004 was a conspiracy. That was pretty based.
But then it seems recently I saw more and more posts about "white privilege," or posts on Thanksgiving about how the holiday is a celebration of "the genocide" of Indians and should be a day of mourning instead, so I stopped going there for serious political stuff.
But then it seems recently I saw more and more posts about "white privilege," or posts on Thanksgiving about how the holiday is a celebration of "the genocide" of Indians and should be a day of mourning instead, so I stopped going there for serious political stuff.
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Is there any good left leaning site left? its kinda depressing seeing this shit as someone who leans left/for democrats.
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It's as rare to find a left-leaning site that's not overrun with SJW as it is to find a Republican site that doesn't have any teabaggers.
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That's a good question. I don't know. I haven't come across any that was as high-profile and comprehensive as Kos, anyway.
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Most of the old guard are either fighting a desperate losing battle on the sites that got infected or they fuck off, swear off politics, and leave that shit behind. Some become chantards, others go walkabout. A few drink the kool-aid and succumb, becoming what they hate. The others, more pragmatic, start to go walkabout. Inevitably, they may find a chan to hang out on, maybe a subreddit. Or maybe something like Gamergate happens and they find something else entirely.
One of the reasons GG did as well as it did was that so many people of so many different political ideologies set aside their differences in order to support vidya and fuck over Social Justice. It was the point where left and right both realized: "Holy shit, we've both been through this. Let's make fun of the crazies together."
The situation's such that anywhere open discussion without political borders occurs is becoming the haven of the disaffected on both sides. I find this kind of cool, actually.
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If you follow the antics of the website, then we're entering a turbulent period. With the democratic primary coming up, the userbase is creating dueling diaries trying to get the upper hand in the eventual non-conflict when Markos backs Hillary and all the Sanders supporters are told to shut up or the republicans will win. Everyone will get salty and the drama will be delicious.
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Just wait until that Margaret Pless article comes out. Even that alone will be fun to see what's in it.
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All the insanity for yourself.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/marga...y-kos-writer-hypocrite-and-salty-idiot.16090/
She was that much of an idiot that I gave her a thread.
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@dollarhuviya I need to read that when I get some time. Knowing what the website's like there's plenty of Kossaks that are as bad as her
More on that civil war
More on that civil war
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Definitely. I'm closely keeping an eye on Margaret cause there's the potential for her to allude to this website in some way as a result of what's been happening. You'll see why once you get around to reading it. She's still finalizing her next story.
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Blake's not kidding. If you missed the golden age of the site, I scarcely know how to describe it to you beyond giving a general elaboration of how it was.
Back in the day, DailyKos was a fucking gleaming gem of reasonability in a time when the left had taken it on the chin pretty badly. 2000-2004 was not a fun time to be a Democrat, to put it mildly, but DailyKos always managed to be both entertaining, informative, and analytical, and many of our routine commentators were experts in their field. You had people with actual know-how explaining various things, cause-and effect with minor issues, and actual, honest-to-god discussions.
Right-wingers and Independents came to the site constantly to discuss things like adults, and we had a lot of great dialogue take place. Civil disagreement was a common thing, but nobody took it too hard and we genuinely learned things from these discussions. One of my favorite posts was brought about from a former RNC worker who had basically elaborated that the rank-and-file of the right and the leadership were on two completely different continents, arguably on different planets, and quite possibly different planes of existence.
DailyKos prided itself on things like these. "a reality-based community," we called ourselves, mocking the idiocy of the 2008 election cycle. Feels never trumped reals, and a more solid community I'd rarely encountered online.
It was far from perfect. There were people who were constantly pushing sophistry over actual data, and this became an increasing problem as time went on. Kos in particular was a gigantic faggot and would go out of his way to antagonize the newcomers, but since this was the quality time of DailyKos, people constantly made fun of his ass when he did. Unfortunately, this was a time when neoprogressives started to get a foothold on the site - and they immediately kissed Kos's ring-piece. Soon, Kos started posting the hatemail the site would receive in a weekly feature, and this quickly mutated from making fun of people who could barely spell and punctuate and who called Kos a nigger to him belittling people who otherwise had solid arguments. This kind of shit quickly got worse, and soon any viewpoint to the right of Che Guevara was considered wrongthink. The independents were the first to fuck off, followed by the right-wingers we used to discuss things with. After that, we only had the original userbase, and they started to fracture when the infestation got worse.
We started to see Trigger Warnings. Then we saw "White People Aren't Allowed to Comment in Race Threads." Then we flat-out saw bullshit like the 1-in-5 statistic for rapes on college campuses and the userbase proceeded to begin ragequitting. Less said of what happened during the Duke Lacrosse scandal on DailyKos, the better.
Within the span of 3 years, DailyKos went from a community priding itself on its research and ability to engage people of different viewpoints to a place where any distance from the narrative was considered a cardinal sin. Once, we were a site that made fun of the Teabaggers for being proud-to-be-brainwashed dolts that refused to listen to logic or reason; we then became a group of proud-to-be-brainwashed dolts that refused to listen to logic or reason.
I've made comparisons between Markos and Moot a few times, and I stand by those comparisons. I'm almost entirely sure he's hated the community of the site since it got big, and I honestly think the current occupation of the site by Social Justice is what Kos always wanted. His views were always much more aligned with his own personal power than giving a damn about his own userbase. Nowadays, DailyKos is trying to become another Gawker in a desperate losing battle to remain financially solvent. The jokes pretty much write themselves.
Right-wingers and Independents came to the site constantly to discuss things like adults, and we had a lot of great dialogue take place. Civil disagreement was a common thing, but nobody took it too hard and we genuinely learned things from these discussions. One of my favorite posts was brought about from a former RNC worker who had basically elaborated that the rank-and-file of the right and the leadership were on two completely different continents, arguably on different planets, and quite possibly different planes of existence.
DailyKos prided itself on things like these. "a reality-based community," we called ourselves, mocking the idiocy of the 2008 election cycle. Feels never trumped reals, and a more solid community I'd rarely encountered online.
It was far from perfect. There were people who were constantly pushing sophistry over actual data, and this became an increasing problem as time went on. Kos in particular was a gigantic faggot and would go out of his way to antagonize the newcomers, but since this was the quality time of DailyKos, people constantly made fun of his ass when he did. Unfortunately, this was a time when neoprogressives started to get a foothold on the site - and they immediately kissed Kos's ring-piece. Soon, Kos started posting the hatemail the site would receive in a weekly feature, and this quickly mutated from making fun of people who could barely spell and punctuate and who called Kos a nigger to him belittling people who otherwise had solid arguments. This kind of shit quickly got worse, and soon any viewpoint to the right of Che Guevara was considered wrongthink. The independents were the first to fuck off, followed by the right-wingers we used to discuss things with. After that, we only had the original userbase, and they started to fracture when the infestation got worse.
We started to see Trigger Warnings. Then we saw "White People Aren't Allowed to Comment in Race Threads." Then we flat-out saw bullshit like the 1-in-5 statistic for rapes on college campuses and the userbase proceeded to begin ragequitting. Less said of what happened during the Duke Lacrosse scandal on DailyKos, the better.
Within the span of 3 years, DailyKos went from a community priding itself on its research and ability to engage people of different viewpoints to a place where any distance from the narrative was considered a cardinal sin. Once, we were a site that made fun of the Teabaggers for being proud-to-be-brainwashed dolts that refused to listen to logic or reason; we then became a group of proud-to-be-brainwashed dolts that refused to listen to logic or reason.
I've made comparisons between Markos and Moot a few times, and I stand by those comparisons. I'm almost entirely sure he's hated the community of the site since it got big, and I honestly think the current occupation of the site by Social Justice is what Kos always wanted. His views were always much more aligned with his own personal power than giving a damn about his own userbase. Nowadays, DailyKos is trying to become another Gawker in a desperate losing battle to remain financially solvent. The jokes pretty much write themselves.
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