The Endless Drum Beating

[AnOminous]

Even then unless you have a static IP address all it's going to point to is your ISP. And without a court order or warrant they're not giving that information out.

If I already have a list of candidates for a nick being someone and the IP gives me their rough geographic location, they're doxed at that point. And that's assuming I'm not, say, a tranny with $100K who is interested in spending it to get someone via legal process, rather than just to buy a bunch of cheesecake and eat it all.

There's a reason to use VPNs and why an IP address is something you really don't want people knowing. On the ancient Internet, IPs were everywhere. Every Usenet article had an NNTP-Posting-Host: header, similarly they routinely showed up in email headers. There were ways then of avoiding these actually being accurate or useful, but irc is one of those old Internet protocols that by default just exposes IPs.

There's a reason this is no longer the case and most apps don't just go spewing out IP addresses at random. (Most of these like Discord rape your privacy in altogether more insidious ways.)

Most modern irc servers, especially those used by the more paranoid types who currently use them, use something (vhost is one such thing) that allows users to return a fictional domain rather than their actual IP, but irc really doesn't have security built in. You have to roll your own.

 

[Hillary Clinton's Ass]

I am shitposting from the .is domain on the clearnet now, works with IPv4 VPN just fine, so for now I am off the Tor hellscape, which was quite slow.
Much appreciated, Jersh.
May the gods gibs you many moneyz, great health and lots of fertile houris.

Would you look at that? The .IS domain has never worked for me until recently. Kiwifarms, an actual hydra.

 

[gagabobo1997]

If I already have a list of candidates for a nick being someone and the IP gives me their rough geographic location, they're doxed at that point. And that's assuming I'm not, say, a tranny with $100K who is interested in spending it to get someone via legal process, rather than just to buy a bunch of cheesecake and eat it all.

There's a reason to use VPNs and why an IP address is something you really don't want people knowing. On the ancient Internet, IPs were everywhere. Every Usenet article had an NNTP-Posting-Host: header, similarly they routinely showed up in email headers. There were ways then of avoiding these actually being accurate or useful, but irc is one of those old Internet protocols that by default just exposes IPs.

There's a reason this is no longer the case and most apps don't just go spewing out IP addresses at random. (Most of these like Discord rape your privacy in altogether more insidious ways.)

Most modern irc servers, especially those used by the more paranoid types who currently use them, use something (vhost is one such thing) that allows users to return a fictional domain rather than their actual IP, but irc really doesn't have security built in. You have to roll your own.

While an IP definitely does provide good information when you are already researching someone, farming IPs (like from an IRC) is completely different. Assuming no one in the IRC recycles a username, its pretty much just a random list of IPs with random usernames. Nothing useful can be harvested with that. It ALL comes down to the opsec of the users on the IRC, if they use a new username and dont send any identifying information, then no one would be able to get anything from their IP unless they were extremely 1337 or a fed. (Not taking into account comparing IP to known data breaches, but most people dont have static IPs that last long enough for that to matter)

Of course, good practice to always try to mask your IP anyways through whatever means. Who knows, someone on the other side of the screen could be a fed or a 1337 hacker, and there is always the chance that you slip up and send some information you shouldn't, in which case having an exposed IP would only make that worse.

 

[Jump]

There is no need to be upset friends.
Null talked about the site's situation some on his MATI stream today.

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.TOP doesn't work unless you have IPv6.
It sounds like you shouldn't expect service to get back to normal on normienet for at least a week, other things need to get set up 1st. Just laying low on TOR seems to be the plan for now.

 

[AnOminous]

While an IP definitely does provide good information when you are already researching someone, farming IPs (like from an IRC) is completely different. Assuming no one in the IRC recycles a username, its pretty much just a random list of IPs with random usernames.

If it's a residential cable modem ISP address, like so many of them are, the determined attacker through legal means simply immediately sends an evidence preservation letter to the ISP, who probably has a data retention policy of far longer than the 7 days the Farms have. Then they litigate connecting that IP address to the actual subscriber connected to it.

At that point, the burden shifts to that subscriber to make an argument that despite being connected to that IP address, they aren't responsible for whatever was done with it. As people are fond of pointing out, the mere fact you were the subscriber with a certain IP address isn't sufficient proof you were actually whoever did whatever was done with it. That doesn't mean the person seeking to use that information as evidence can't add more after research to combine with that and carry their preponderance burden.

And of course, there are people who don't want to do something legal to you, they want to do something illegal. And they don't really give a shit about due process and some don't care whether they might or might not be going after some innocent bystander.

ETA: also IP farming can be useful if you don't know anything whatsoever about the group you're going after because you can then just feed that list into some metasploit/nmap type thing and see if there are any vulnerabilities to exploit. This used to be a lot easier when dumbasses would do things like expose their IP while running NetBIOS over TCP/IP things so you could literally mount their drives and just browse through them. You think nobody did that? They did.

All it would take is one idiot in the group to expose everyone.

 

[Narr Then]

They're now working on getting .is taken down.

This is the google drive doc with links that they're getting people to spam the hosting providers in Iceland with.



Archive of the twitter acct that posted it if you want to grab the one with active links.
https://archive.ph/dSocX

Not sure how much info to put here because Null asked us to ignore them, but I thought this was relevant and it's good to see exactly what they're lying about to these providers to get them to buckle.

The 'underage sexual content' one is a link to a Metokur clip exposing a dangerous child predator, who he compares to Nick Bate. But, it has bathroom boys 2, electric molesteroo in the link, and that's all they'll look at.

And of course having the Christchurch and Buffalo shootings footage and manifestos on here to pick apart and discuss them means we endorse it.

Give it another week and we'll have been the masterminds behind them or some shit.

Apparently there'll be more added at some point. I'll post it it if it's relevant or useful.

 

[ForTheHoard]

They're now working on getting .is taken down.

This is the google drive doc with links that they're getting people to spam the hosting providers in Iceland with.
View attachment 3688046
View attachment 3688047

Archive of the twitter acct that posted it if you want to grab the one with active links.
https://archive.ph/dSocX

Not sure how much info to put here because Null asked us to ignore them, but I thought this was relevant and it's good to see exactly what they're lying about to these providers to get them to buckle.

The 'underage sexual content' one is a link to a Metokur clip exposing a dangerous child predator, who he compares to Nick Bate. But, it has bathroom boys 2, electric molesteroo in the link, and that's all they'll look at.

And of course having the Christchurch and Buffalo shootings footage and manifestos on here to pick apart and discuss them means we endorse it.

Give it another week and we'll have been the masterminds behind them or some shit.

Apparently there'll be more added at some point. I'll post it it if it's relevant or useful.

I guess that immanent threat of violence wasn't so immanent considering nobody has been killed, injured, or even approached in person.

 

[Lost in Place]

What are the chances of that resulting in normies leaking their IPs to eachother?

Fair point. I can see normies fucking that up pretty hard. I sort of forgot the amount of people that will not worry about that stuff for a bitl

 

[LaxerBRO]

They're now working on getting .is taken down.

This is the google drive doc with links that they're getting people to spam the hosting providers in Iceland with.
View attachment 3688046
View attachment 3688047

Archive of the twitter acct that posted it if you want to grab the one with active links.
https://archive.ph/dSocX

Not sure how much info to put here because Null asked us to ignore them, but I thought this was relevant and it's good to see exactly what they're lying about to these providers to get them to buckle.

The 'underage sexual content' one is a link to a Metokur clip exposing a dangerous child predator, who he compares to Nick Bate. But, it has bathroom boys 2, electric molesteroo in the link, and that's all they'll look at.

And of course having the Christchurch and Buffalo shootings footage and manifestos on here to pick apart and discuss them means we endorse it.

Give it another week and we'll have been the masterminds behind them or some shit.

Apparently there'll be more added at some point. I'll post it it if it's relevant or useful.

Is this the best they have got? None of that will withstand scrutiny unless the country its hosted in had some insane laws.

I really am tired of this shit. Can one of the trannies just fucking sue the site or Jersh already?

I want Nick Rekieta to fucking depose Keffals and address ever claim they have made. They the tape should be released on YouTube so everyone can see the fucking lying degenerate they are.

 

[The Ugly One]

I guess that immanent threat of violence wasn't so immanent considering nobody has been killed, injured, or even approached in person.

The Immanent threat of violence was from a robot that was watching for a kill order on Cloudflare's servers. Uncountable lives were saved.

 

[F13 Key]

In regards to Iceland, the "history" section of this Wikipedia page outlines what ISPs there did in a similar situation to ours ten years ago.

In this case though, the content isn't hosted within Iceland, so they may not bother to act just to pull the domain name. The bar to do that is higher than the bar to pull down a website hosted inside the country, apparently.

 

[Ridikikity]

It ALL comes down to the opsec of the users on the IRC, if they use a new username and dont send any identifying information, then no one would be able to get anything from their IP unless they were extremely 1337 or a fed. (Not taking into account comparing IP to known data breaches, but most people dont have static IPs that last long enough for that to matter)

Good Tor opsec is to never sign into a website with the same account over both tor and the clearnet, because if anyone is watching you then they can figure things out based on correlational timing, like if two connections die at the same time or if some autosync triggers on accident while you're on tor. Also earlier in the thread someone mentioned something about how onion sites can use http (riskier for the user) or https (riskier for the host) and to guess what we're on.

Despite this, I had to explain why I - a low post user who was never around until we were forced to use tor - am totally not just a malicious sleeper account that is really really bad job at hiding my sleeper status. So many people here were posting via the onion domain, And they were clearly users that had not been using the onion network before because they were commenting how the troons failed, even [poster] in their technological illiteracy could figure out how to install brave.

I don't trust users to have good opsec in general. I don't even trust myself to have good opsec. The only difference with me is I know that I don't fully know how to do it right so I go into autistic fits of panic while everyone else is having fun.

 

[Hepativore]

For people who are still reading this thread. anti- Troon thoughts arent gone from the mainstream internet. Facebook has large undercover or half undercover groups to laugh at trannies with thousands of users under their real names. There are crypto socks everywhere on these too but doxbook isn't synonymous with privacy. There's groups on international sites. French internet is the wild west for no globalhomo advertising and free shitposting. Japanese internet has TERF shit and general anti-troon sneed . Ovarit exits as its own site despite the hate. Lolcow still has tranny loling.

People are willing to risk their whole real identity and job to laugh at and expose trannies on the internet. You have fearless people who will openly say the N word. That word being "no". Saying "no" to censorship, saying "no" to allowing troons to run wild and ruin shit. Most people do not like trannies and even people who tolerate them or even are open minded still clock them in public even if its "empathetically". They're not winning even in a rigged competition where they have been the biggest funded minority to mainstream in the history of ever. Pharma companies don't want this. They want tranny money. IT moguls don't want this. They want tranny labor. Pedos don't want this. They want to groom.

They sneed sneed sneed but this only feed feed feeds the vitriol felt for them.

The funny thing is, that all of the smear campaigns directed at Kiwi Farms as being a bunch of "alt-right incel men" conveniently ignore all of the female kiwis there are on this site, just because so many women are tired of being forced to tolerate MTF troons in their private spaces or friends, relatives, and personal aquaintences becoming FTMs.


I would rather be offended than censored, and this whole bullshit attempt to make us pariahs by tech, media, and the troon platoon has revealed just how vile their ideology and its puppetmasters really are.

Keffals and his rotten bore-hole between his legs does not make him female anymore than a white person wearing blackface becomes "black". Why is the former considered socially acceptable and encouraged while the latter is considered highly-offensive? Both are pointless attempts to change immutable biological facts like sex or racial phenotype.

From now on, to drive the point home, perhaps we should refer to MTFs as being in or wearing "womanface" and FTMs as wearing or being in "manface".

I have sympathy for Keffals' cats to have to be stuck with somebody like him as their owner.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

They're now working on getting .is taken down.

This is the google drive doc with links that they're getting people to spam the hosting providers in Iceland with.
View attachment 3688046
View attachment 3688047

Archive of the twitter acct that posted it if you want to grab the one with active links.
https://archive.ph/dSocX

Not sure how much info to put here because Null asked us to ignore them, but I thought this was relevant and it's good to see exactly what they're lying about to these providers to get them to buckle.

The 'underage sexual content' one is a link to a Metokur clip exposing a dangerous child predator, who he compares to Nick Bate. But, it has bathroom boys 2, electric molesteroo in the link, and that's all they'll look at.

And of course having the Christchurch and Buffalo shootings footage and manifestos on here to pick apart and discuss them means we endorse it.

Give it another week and we'll have been the masterminds behind them or some shit.

Apparently there'll be more added at some point. I'll post it it if it's relevant or useful.

Here are some screenshots. Who is this cunt?

 

[erichwesson]

What are the chances of that resulting in normies leaking their IPs to eachother? Here on KF Null tries to save idiots from themselves by proxying images so opening private messages with tracking pixels in them... Might leak the fact that you opened the message, but it shouldn't leak your IP. But I don't think he can do as much there.

Last time I was on liberachat, most people seemed to be connecting via tor.

https://libera.chat/guides/connect#accessing-liberachat-via-tor

 

[Ishtar]

One of the more unfortunate aspects of Lucas' demagogy is now other parts of the internet think KF is basically Stormfront or something. I've seen it on both AH.com and Spacebattles. Probably elsewhere. No one will listen to any patient explanations to the contrary, KF literally has kill teams that drop in via helicopter to slaughter trannies, apparently.

Regardless of whether or not Josh can get the site back to some measure of normality, its reputation will forever be mud in the mind of the mass public.

 

[Dogfacefuke]

One of the more unfortunate aspects of Lucas' demagogy is now other parts of the internet think KF is basically Stormfront or something. I've seen it on both AH.com and Spacebattles. Probably elsewhere. No one will listen to any patient explanations to the contrary, KF literally has kill teams that drop in via helicopter to slaughter trannies, apparently.

Regardless of whether or not Josh can get the site back to some measure of normality, its reputation will forever be mud in the mind of the mass public.

There's two kinds of people:

• Those who get primary sources
• Those who get secondary/tertiary/quaternary...etc sources

The kind of person who has no drive to find something out for themselves and just automatically believes the news was lost the moment they were born. They are nothing but a hollow tool to be used and disposed of by the ones who are spoon feeding them their narrative, which they willingly lap up like the dogs they are.

 

[repentance]

Regardless of whether or not Josh can get the site back to some measure of normality, its reputation will forever be mud in the mind of the mass public.

It already was in the minds of those who are influenced by the keffals brigade. Most normies still don't know that those people, or us, even exist.

 

[Ishtar]

There's two kinds of people:

• Those who get primary sources
• Those who get secondary/tertiary/quaternary...etc sources

The kind of person who has no drive to find something out for themselves and just automatically believes the news was lost the moment they were born. They are nothing but a hollow tool to be used and disposed of by the ones who are spoon feeding them their narrative, which they willingly lap up like the dogs they are.

Unfortunately for both KF and the Truth that is the overwhelming majority of Homo "Sapiens" "Sapiens". Most people are herd animals and will accept whatever their social group tells them, I have seen some dissension-but it has been shouted down as apologia for Nazism or some other clownworld naughty act.

Part of PR is being able to imprint your ideas onto this collective mind, and Lucas has actually done very well at this. KF are Naazis and are baaad and should be shut down, no one questions it, no one bothers to ask Josh or anyone for clarification. They are cattle being led by a shameless lolcow.

They absolutely deserve to be placed in chains.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Hostile isn't the term I'd use. It's next to impossible to use on TOR. It's just jumps to the next set of crosswalks, traffic lights and cars. You enter the info a dozen times and it's still asking you to click on something.

I found that switching to the audio cue instead of the default photo one worked

...for awhile, until the whole system decided I was a bot somehow and I couldn't do anything