The Final Fantasy Thread

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Why does Nomura got to Nomura, my hope Zack dies in another way and we don't see whispers again, so it can just be a expanded remake not this dumb Nomura KH shit.



It's not, FF7 uses Unreal 4, 15 used Luminous

Agreed. I'm cool with fleshing him out in the early parts but he should be dead ASAP. Long before they try and make some bullshit love square with cloud, aerith, zach, and tifa.

 

[Radical Cadre]

So the ghosts are trying to stop Aerith using her innate abilities, or are they the result of Aerith using her innate abilities without her realising she's doing it?

Aeris from a tertiary timeline that we will never see used her Holy magic to influence the other timelines, thereby creating the time jannies and sacrificing her timeline for the sake of all others. Clearly though she was too late for the timeline of the original game and probably felt reverberations of herself dying in that timeline, which spurred her into action to save all other timelines. Duh.

 

[Nobunaga]

Aeris from a tertiary timeline that we will never see used her Holy magic to influence the other timelines, thereby creating the time jannies and sacrificing her timeline for the sake of all others. Clearly though she was too late for the timeline of the original game and probably felt reverberations of herself dying in that timeline, which spurred her into action to save all other timelines. Duh.

But where does the x-blade, fashion angels and versus xiii fit into all of this?

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

That's just pandering to the hardcore fans, none of the first-timers will know what it means so it's pretty safe. People who played FF7 will know this already, newcomers may be interested by the mystique.

That's the thing tho, do you know any "hardcore FF7 fans" who actually like the changes to these reveals? Most people I know who loved the original and even love the remake think the new ending to Midgar is pretty bad. The reason FF7's story works is cuz the story, and the information revealed to the player, are paced rather well for the style of game it is that came out in the era it's in.

What they did was what movie trailers do now where they just spoil everything for the smoothbrains

 

[Radical Cadre]

But where does the x-blade, fashion angels and versus xiii fit into all of this?

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[Bender]

That's the thing tho, do you know any "hardcore FF7 fans" who actually like the changes to these reveals? Most people I know who loved the original and even love the remake think the new ending to Midgar is pretty bad. The reason FF7's story works is cuz the story, and the information revealed to the player, are paced rather well for the style of game it is that came out in the era it's in.

What they did was what movie trailers do now where they just spoil everything for the smoothbrains

I only know one person who played FF7, and so far he's enjoying FF7:R. He hasn't finished it yet, so he doesn't know about the difference in the ending. He hasn't complained about any of the earlier introductions of Sephiroth or the flash-forwards, nor really complained about any part of the game.

I haven't played it myself, I'm watching a Let's Play of the game.

 

[Radical Cadre]

That's the thing tho, do you know any "hardcore FF7 fans" who actually like the changes to these reveals? Most people I know who loved the original and even love the remake think the new ending to Midgar is pretty bad. The reason FF7's story works is cuz the story, and the information revealed to the player, are paced rather well for the style of game it is that came out in the era it's in.

What they did was what movie trailers do now where they just spoil everything for the smoothbrains

We discussed this several pages back, but it is worth bringing up again. The general feeling (at least among the people in the discussion we had) was that the FFVII fanbase is actually two fanbases. You have people that enjoyed the original JRPG and then you have the people that became big fans of Advent Children and the expanded universe, so to speak. There is some overlap between these fanbases but those that do not dwell in both worlds seem to have very different ideas about what was great about Final Fantasy VII.

My contention is that the people that really are loving the Remake are most likely Advent Children fans or not fans of the JRPG; which was also the much larger group as Square shifted the way they made their games to cater to the Advent Children group. In my opinion that group is easier to develop for than JRPG fans because JRPG fans tend to be very picky and vocal about their gameplay elements. The Advent Children fans are more like your typical anime fan; and while anime fans can be way overboard with how vocal they are, they are oftentimes happy enough to simply be getting new content and the overall quality of the video game portion was never what brought them to the show in the first place.

In terms of the game's story changes, I have a lot of problems. But most of my gripes are with the gameplay changes. I get that the gameplay is passable, but it's absolutely not what I want out of a game that claims to be a part of the Final Fantasy series. I want a good, old fashioned JRPG. It's why I've shifted over to Dragon Quest almost exclusively.

 

[verissimus]

Also, mark my words all this BS with the whispers and the big time line changes are cuz the sephiroth in this world is from the original timeline; he found some way to time travel.

Agreed. I'm cool with fleshing him out in the early parts but he should be dead ASAP. Long before they try and make some bullshit love square with cloud, aerith, zach, and tifa.

Ugh...please make it stop. Stop giving them ideas people.

So far my biggest problems going forward are

1) How is the story supposed to resolve itself assuming it's going to be allowed to be resolved;

2) Unless they're going to change the power of Aeris Holy materia to saving space-time with the possible added bonus of healing the planet, what is the point of her sacrifice this time around (assuming it is allowed to happen); and

3) I'm still certain they're going to include things from the original that aren't necessary anymore to cover so far as the story is concerned.

 

[PetrifiedTom]

Back when Spoony was active in defamation of FF he said one true thing about stories since X. In each and every FF the main character was the main character and what I mean by that is they were in the centre of the story. But in X they started changing things like they've lost the point how to tell a story anymore because if you look upon story structure of X it revolves not around Tidus but Yuna. He's just a link to the past but the main job to be done have Yuna.
Nowadays, if SE was in development of FF VIII they would tell a story from POV of Zell and not Squall. Same goes for XIII where Lightning got little to do with main plot and it's more about her sister, Serah. Lightning is just there to chew gum and kick some asses but she's out of gum.

 

[Nobunaga]

It's all in the wisdom of the Lifestream and will be revealed in time.

While you wait, why not check out our online store: lifestream.cetra.io

Register today and we'll send you a complimentary Cetra Spirit plush doll! Everyone remembers the Cetra Spirits from the Temple of the Ancients. Now you too can have one of your very own! Squeeze its belly and it will tell you secrets from the upcoming installment of Final Fantasy VII Remake! But act soon, supplies are shrinking faster than Cait Sith can shake a Black Materia!

Damn, cant believe they hired atlus to help them thanks to all the missonformation, confusing marketing and squazing the retarded weebs out of every penny worth while they clap like morons
Atlast i truly see

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

We discussed this several pages back, but it is worth bringing up again. The general feeling (at least among the people in the discussion we had) was that the FFVII fanbase is actually two fanbases. You have people that enjoyed the original JRPG and then you have the people that became big fans of Advent Children and the expanded universe, so to speak. There is some overlap between these fanbases but those that do not dwell in both worlds seem to have very different ideas about what was great about Final Fantasy VII.

A lot of OG fans I've seen love pretty much everything they do with the game up barring the inclusion of the whispers and the ending.

Also if you don't like Advent Children, you're weak.

 

[Sug Benis]

I've got some deep-seated reasons why FF7 is pretty dear to me (long story short: it was the impetus for a close bond with a cousin who died young), but I find myself sort of liking the Remake going a different path despite myself.

I don't know whether it was just average cynicism or something in the early material I can't put my finger on, but I had really negative expectations about the remake from the start. The announcement that it would be episodic was just a cherry on the shit sundae. Even CyberConnect2 signing on to help with it didn't give me much hope, and I thought CC2 was the tits back in the ps2 era. It was never going to live up to the original, even before the episodic announcement. The team that made 7 special isn't together anymore.

What we got is crazy and retarded. It's like Hideo Kojima had a threesome with an anime bodypillow and a blender. Ghost time jannies in my FF7 remake is something I never would have anticipated in my wildest dreams or nightmares.

But I still have the original, and at least we're going to have a wild ride. Plus, I unironically enjoy having more midgar. I always loved that weird japanese techno-grunge aesthetic (hell, 90s japanese techno aesthetics in general). Maybe it helps that I didn't pay for a copy, too.

 

[haurchefant]

I don't see why people are whining so much about OG fans not liking the Remake's decisions lol the game is going to sell gangbusters and Square will dozens of sequels for handhelds and mobile games to keep telling the story and to string you along rofl. nuFF7 isn't going anywhere, we'll most likely get Angeal and Gackt back too. All of your favorite story elements will be preserved and the OG will be further shunted into irrelevance which is what AC fans actually want and consequently what Square Enix also wants.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

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[Radical Cadre]

Found this link while searching the site for Final Fantasy related stuff. Dude understands Final Fantasy.

If only he knew how bad it was going to get.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

We discussed this several pages back, but it is worth bringing up again. The general feeling (at least among the people in the discussion we had) was that the FFVII fanbase is actually two fanbases. You have people that enjoyed the original JRPG and then you have the people that became big fans of Advent Children and the expanded universe, so to speak. There is some overlap between these fanbases but those that do not dwell in both worlds seem to have very different ideas about what was great about Final Fantasy VII.

My contention is that the people that really are loving the Remake are most likely Advent Children fans or not fans of the JRPG; which was also the much larger group as Square shifted the way they made their games to cater to the Advent Children group. In my opinion that group is easier to develop for than JRPG fans because JRPG fans tend to be very picky and vocal about their gameplay elements. The Advent Children fans are more like your typical anime fan; and while anime fans can be way overboard with how vocal they are, they are oftentimes happy enough to simply be getting new content and the overall quality of the video game portion was never what brought them to the show in the first place.

In terms of the game's story changes, I have a lot of problems. But most of my gripes are with the gameplay changes. I get that the gameplay is passable, but it's absolutely not what I want out of a game that claims to be a part of the Final Fantasy series. I want a good, old fashioned JRPG. It's why I've shifted over to Dragon Quest almost exclusively.

What battle system in the FF series did you like best? I thought 10 had a terrific battle system and growth system. Preserves a lot of the JRPG feel but much more modern (despite being almost 20 years old).

 

[Dave.]

Of all the franchises I never wanted to get into, Final Fantasy is by far at the top of my list. I never want to play a Final Fantasy game because the fanbase surrounding is so uncomfortably insufferable, I choose not to play it because it feels good to piss them off. Besides, Planescape Torment is better anyway. Play that instead you weeaboos.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Of all the franchises I never wanted to get into, Final Fantasy is by far at the top of my list. I never want to play a Final Fantasy game because the fanbase surrounding is so uncomfortably insufferable, I choose not to play it because it feels good to piss them off. Besides, Planescape Torment is better anyway. Play that instead you weeaboos.

Yeah remember the 6 sequels that Planescape Torment got?

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Of all the franchises I never wanted to get into, Final Fantasy is by far at the top of my list. I never want to play a Final Fantasy game because the fanbase surrounding is so uncomfortably insufferable, I choose not to play it because it feels good to piss them off. Besides, Planescape Torment is better anyway. Play that instead you weeaboos.

you have a small peepee and you should kill yourself

 

[Dave.]

Yeah remember the 6 sequels that Planescape Torment got?

No, but at least it doesn't have shovel ware shit after two sequels lol.