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The farm isn't immune to pic related:
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The redditification process is slow and insidious.

Every newfags waves alters the demographic of the site, which eventually alters browsing experience.
This is not reversible and it cannot be stopped because it is part of living in a healthy online ecosystem.
However, it is imperative to safeguard the foundation which constitutes the authenticity of the original user base.
Otherwise it can drift out of control, sort of like what happens to places like Something Awful and more.
4chan has proven its resilience from change thanks to anonymity and an organic set of fundamental rules that unify every anons despite the diverse cultures across the boards.

I know it's not really a new subject, but I think it is something that needs to be reminded.
I hope Null and those who cares about keeping this place from crumbling understand; yes, there's physical challenges in keeping KF up, but it can also rot from inside if not attentive to demographic shift and gayops.
 
I, for one, thoroughly disagree with making banned users' accounts inaccessible because it was quite fun to clown on them.
I think Null takes issue with this specifically. Fairly recently a certain user who won't be named by me out of respect for what Null wants was banned and Null or some moderator went in and removed all the posts on their profile doing that.
 
This is going to go absolutely, totally and utterly wrong. You will have people featuring their fighting with each other or a spam of useless posts for things no one really cares about.
That's not necessarily a problem, if anything it just outs how autistic the user is.
What my concern is this part:
you can feature any post on the site
I can see bad actors using that to fuck with the site.
>post something heinous, disgusting and claim the site stands for it
>highlight it
>go to the front page
>screenshot it
>send the screenshot to various news outlets with the caption "look at what Kiwi Farms endorses"
Obviously the site is no stranger to people fucking with it nor is it a stranger to negative press. But if you nip the problem in the bud, it'll prevent unnecessary headaches in the future.
I will tinker with this to reduce limits up and down depending on how it's used or abused.
Hopefully you've thought of the above scenario lol. Three ways around that would be:
1. You can't feature your own posts. Kinda gay and defeats the point, but it would prevent the above scenario happening unless two different people work together.
2. You can't feature posts if you're a new account. Would force people to play the long con and by that time, they might get bored and give up.
3. Can't feature posts that are under a day or two old. This would rely on mods to catch shit like that a delete it if appropriate.

Obviously I'm a new account so I don't know a fucking thing about the site; outside of years of MATI watching; but the above scenario is the first thing that came to mind when I saw the OP.
 
4chan has proven its resilience from change thanks to anonymity and an organic set of fundamental rules that unify every anons despite the diverse cultures across the boards.
delusional. one word baitposts, twitter screencap threads, and porn were not prevalent in 2011 /v/. That board had 20 different jannies, so they personally approved the absolute state of it.
 
While I do like the idea of more Community Features since it's a great way to learn about cows I'd never heard of or just hear news I wouldn't have seen on my own, the paid user ability to feature will absolutely be abused. Maybe make it a pending approval thing so a jannie has to rubber stamp it first?
 
The postmarks being blue highlighted, while automatic highlights are green, is a bit jarring while highlight-skimming a thread. I'm not sure the distinction conveys much useful information to readers, it would mostly be for forensics of someone looking into the history of the thread instead of the thread's actual subject. The red feature highlight is good because it tells us this is something so important it went site-wide, which is important to both the topic and thread history.

Can you make postmarks and auto-highlights have the same green color, but keep the timestamp ribbon blue? That will be the "signal" for anyone who cares about the difference. Or maybe make it a setting users can toggle.
 
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maybe donators features should have their own spot and not with the rest of community happenings?
this way even if someone puts a shitpost there it wont sour user experience
 
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The farm isn't immune to pic related:
View attachment 7270774
The redditification process is slow and insidious.

Every newfags waves alters the demographic of the site, which eventually alters browsing experience.
This is not reversible and it cannot be stopped because it is part of living in a healthy online ecosystem.
However, it is imperative to safeguard the foundation which constitutes the authenticity of the original user base.
Otherwise it can drift out of control, sort of like what happens to places like Something Awful and more.
4chan has proven its resilience from change thanks to anonymity and an organic set of fundamental rules that unify every anons despite the diverse cultures across the boards.

I know it's not really a new subject, but I think it is something that needs to be reminded.
I hope Null and those who cares about keeping this place from crumbling understand; yes, there's physical challenges in keeping KF up, but it can also rot from inside if not attentive to demographic shift and gayops.
I kind of see this as a response to shifting culture and trying to maintain the site's identity. 2020 was probably the worst year for the site in terms of cultural shift. The site became heavily political for a while and it took literal years to reign back in all the people who couldn't stop sperging.
As someone who has been on this site for far too long, I've been around to watch the culture and politics change year by year. In my opinion, the biggest threat to the site, culturally, is people more interested in *winning* squabbles or some culture war than they are interested in having fun and effortposting. I personally don't mind gossip between users but when it usurps the purpose of multiple threads, it in essence usurps the purpose of the site.
You should make 5+ year old accounts that shitfling at each other so much they ruin threads invisible to one another.
I must stress that I don't think it is 5+ year old accounts, but almost exactly 5 year old accounts. The cultural shift and influx of users around 2020 chased away more valuable effort posters and cherished oldfags than any other point in kiwifarms history.

And to be clear on the overall, I'm not demanding the site obey my personal politics or personal outlook. My own understanding of the world has changed great amounts, too, in the time I've been here, but I've never let go of the importance of having fun and laughing at spergs, which are the things that should bind this userbase together.
 
I can see bad actors using that to fuck with the site.
>post something heinous, disgusting and claim the site stands for it
>highlight it
>go to the front page
>screenshot it
>send the screenshot to various news outlets with the caption "look at what Kiwi Farms endorses"
Obviously the site is no stranger to people fucking with it nor is it a stranger to negative press. But if you nip the problem in the bud, it'll prevent unnecessary headaches in the future.
That was the Islamic content I meant.
1. You can't feature your own posts. Kinda gay and defeats the point, but it would prevent the above scenario happening unless two different people work together.
2. You can't feature posts if you're a new account. Would force people to play the long con and by that time, they might get bored and give up.
3. Can't feature posts that are under a day or two old. This would rely on mods to catch shit like that a delete it if appropriate.
I can already find you posts from vtuber lolicons saying how they want their baby avatars raped. How they might like it. None of those rules stop you digging up the worst threads and featuring them.

@Banditotron
Null has always been very soft on accounts older than his. HHH has been an obvious troll and very unpopular but gets away with it because of the join date. Lurking the forums you can see old posters know they can get away with trolling or derailing threads because they've been around so long and keep doing it. When Null says 5 years or older I think he's telling the truth and a lot of reports are the old protected accounts he's still protecting. If one of the legacy users joins a thread of the opposing ideology, starts upsetting the thread knowing they will get replies and the mods do nothing to step in you can expect the thread to get a lot of reports. Older users should not be treated better than new users, your join date doesn't make you a better poster and shouldn't make you immune to the forum rules.
 
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The farm isn't immune to pic related:
View attachment 7270774
The redditification process is slow and insidious.

Every newfags waves alters the demographic of the site, which eventually alters browsing experience.
This is not reversible and it cannot be stopped because it is part of living in a healthy online ecosystem.
However, it is imperative to safeguard the foundation which constitutes the authenticity of the original user base.
Otherwise it can drift out of control, sort of like what happens to places like Something Awful and more.
4chan has proven its resilience from change thanks to anonymity and an organic set of fundamental rules that unify every anons despite the diverse cultures across the boards.

I know it's not really a new subject, but I think it is something that needs to be reminded.
I hope Null and those who cares about keeping this place from crumbling understand; yes, there's physical challenges in keeping KF up, but it can also rot from inside if not attentive to demographic shift and gayops.
Kiwifarms started with a userbase containing tons of gossiping obese women, it was never the first stage of that pic, it started at stage 4. It can never progress past stage 4 because it will never be cool to post here.
 
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