The Greater Kiwi Farms - or the Größere Kiwi-Bauernhöfe if you prefer

What monthly amount sounds reasonable?

  • $40 (300 to goal)

  • $30 (400 to goal)

  • $20 (600 to goal)

  • Not interested


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There's no way to convince that many people to send $10/mo. I can do pro rata lump payments but there's no way to give people meaningful rewards if I'm expecting 1200 people to do it. I'm confident we can get 300 people at $40. I might do lower but $20 is the lowest I'd consider. The less I charge, the worse the benefits will have to be. Like at $10 I can't even consider having feature spots.
I'm against lowering the bar. 300 people will already be pretty chaotic and I wanna be able to shill the ss13 server at least a little. I shall therefore be kindof a dick and point out that almost every modern donation revenue split is like 80% big donors 20% small donors. TBH maybe tiering could be employed to exploit the long tail though

Usually its known that the so-called 'demand curve' is like a downward sloping line where some people would pay way way more for the same service, so businesses strive to invent tiers. Like the same iphone having multi hundred dollar price swings for a slightly bigger flash chip presumably not worth more than ~10 dollars. Maybe tier the featured post above the other stuff, or let people bid to take the next day's post feature slot based on their montly amount or something? The latter would hugely up the complexity but would do a better job of saturating the demand curve, I mainly just want to keep the benefit I am most interested in tbh
 
this thread has 0% to do with trump. please shut up. nobody gives a fuck.

I'm against lowering the bar. 300 people will already be pretty chaotic and I wanna be able to shill the ss13 server at least a little. I shall therefore be kindof a dick and point out that almost every modern donation revenue split is like 80% big donors 20% small donors. TBH maybe tiering could be employed to exploit the long tail though

Usually its known that the so-called 'demand curve' is like a downward sloping line where some people would pay way way more for the same service, so businesses strive to invent tiers. Like the same iphone having multi hundred dollar price swings for a slightly bigger flash chip presumably not worth more than ~10 dollars. Maybe tier the featured post above the other stuff, or let people bid to take the next day's post feature slot based on their montly amount or something? The latter would hugely up the complexity but would do a better job of saturating the demand curve, I mainly just want to keep the benefit I am most interested in tbh
This is true. With the legal fundraiser, 80/20 is probably the right ratio.

I think giving people the ability to send their days over to other people will benefit people who want to pay more so they can sort of dole it out on a will.

My main thing is achieving a certain level of financial stability and then also having predictable income that permits me to actually budget and determine what services I can buy, what upgrades I can afford, who I can pay for help, etc.
 
I'm against lowering the bar. 300 people will already be pretty chaotic and I wanna be able to shill the ss13 server at least a little. I shall therefore be kindof a dick and point out that almost every modern donation revenue split is like 80% big donors 20% small donors. TBH maybe tiering could be employed to exploit the long tail though

Usually its known that the so-called 'demand curve' is like a downward sloping line where some people would pay way way more for the same service, so businesses strive to invent tiers. Like the same iphone having multi hundred dollar price swings for a slightly bigger flash chip presumably not worth more than ~10 dollars. Maybe tier the featured post above the other stuff, or let people bid to take the next day's post feature slot based on their montly amount or something? The latter would hugely up the complexity but would do a better job of saturating the demand curve, I mainly just want to keep the benefit I am most interested in tbh
There's a high wall between spending and not spending. Price can be 50c or $50 the quantity buying will look about the same.
You see this in mobile games such as Marvel Snap pricing a cosmetic at $100+ as where they landed on the curve.
Adding a Rube Goldberg machine to the payment flow can only make that wall higher.
 
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How about instead of everyone who pays getting one feature per month, everyone gets one Kiwi Dollar per $1 donated (minimum of $40/m) and features cost all 40 Kiwi Dollars, but you can also spend them on special profile decorations or special stickers, and maybe you could spend like 10 or something to just gild a post in a thread but not put it on the front page (like reddit gold). It would mean less spam of the user feature system since people will be spending it on other things. There could also be expensive things to buy that cost more than 40, like changing someones Avatar for a week or something. You could also give them to users you like. Probably too complicated to implement, but I think it'd be cool.
also let us gamble the kiwi coins
 
How about instead of everyone who pays getting one feature per month, everyone gets one Kiwi Dollar per $1 donated (minimum of $40/m) and features cost all 40 Kiwi Dollars, but you can also spend them on special profile decorations or special stickers, and maybe you could spend like 10 or something to just gild a post in a thread but not put it on the front page (like reddit gold). It would mean less spam of the user feature system since people will be spending it on other things. There could also be expensive things to buy that cost more than 40, like changing someones Avatar for a week or something. You could also give them to users you like. Probably too complicated to implement, but I think it'd be cool.

That just sounds like Candy Crush with extra steps.
 
>I've also made some miscellaneous changes this week. These changes are designed to reduce infighting. There is a lot of very petty activity going on with senior users of the site and I don't appreciate it. A lot of people were concerned about the number of new users from 4chan, but I am spending much, much more time dealing with users who have been here for 5 years causing each other problems.
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I've explained before: this is using billpay. From your bank. It has payment details and your billpay id on the forum. if someone sends $100, are they paying for 5 months of Tier 1 or 2.5 months of Tier 2? How do I know? How would a check scanner know?
The billpay ID has a tier associated with it? Users can have multiple billpay IDs to fund at different levels/durations? Not knowing anything about the backend, this could be a stupid suggestion.
 
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I have to say if anyone in the US gets debanked by sending a check to KF/Lolcow/Null that means that Null has managed to actually break the banking system that's been in place for hundreds of years.
This would seem to be the kind of thing that gets someone to testify in front of congress if it can hit the media hard enough.
 
I've always thought that posts with "informative" stickers should be highly prioritized for highlighting. As it stands, sometimes the system will highlight some dumb shit flinging or the 3rd repost of a meme because they get a lot of stickers, and other posts with some minor (but informative) details stay ignored. This is especially the case when a thread gets featured and churns out a lot of pages, i.e. the typical use case for highlight surfing.
I would even go as far as suggesting a feature to filter a thread to keep only posts with at least one informative rating. Maybe sell that as an option for the "Youtube poacher" package.
 
Stinkditch was decoupled from the Lolcow Salon and made a regular on-topic Lolcow board. Salon mods are still mods there, but bans for shitting up the girl boards no longer bans you from tranny threads. This has been done to decrease friction with the Salon, while allowing the Salon mods to continue to keep the Salon a good experience for female users who have been ~40% of the community population for 10+ years.
Out of curiosity, how much would I have to pay you to move the Salon to a separate site?
 
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