The HBO Max/Discovery Griefing Thread - look how they massacred my boys

Other than my soft spot for Uncle Grandpa, why should I personally care about any of the other shows getting removed? I don't care about any of them, yeah it sucks but I'm sure all of those are already preserved for future generations through illicit means. I've heard Mao Mao is good, but everything else is stuff I've either heard sucks or is a "meh". So even if they are tax write-offs, in this era of nearly nothing getting home media releases, who really cares?
 
Infinity Train’s DVD sales have been halted and pulled from Amazon, with the only option to buy secondhand.
Elliot from Earth, Mao Mao, Mighty Magiswords and various other shows have additionally lost all of their webpages on CN-owned sites.

And over 200 legacy episodes of Sesame Street have been pulled from HBO Max without warning.

Pete Browngardt has decided posted this to celebrate the occasion:
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These days crying about LOST MEDIA means "I don't know how to torrent". Oh no, Infinity Train and Mighty Magiswords are lost media...shut up, bitches. Shows like that will forever be archived in great quality while you have vintage animation, including 80s-early 90s anime, that are still stuck on laserdisc until someone decides to rip it and post it to Youtube.

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The Extremely Online Animation Cliques people who spent the past several years kissing corporate buttocks and defending the most artless, lamest, creatively sterile mass production practices in animation since the 80s era of glorified toy commercials are getting what they deserve.

"I wonder why the kingdom of beanmouth cartoons primarily on children's networks but aimed at terminally online neurotic manchildren we've been supporting over the years is crumbling? This cannot be."
 
Other than my soft spot for Uncle Grandpa, why should I personally care about any of the other shows getting removed? I don't care about any of them, yeah it sucks but I'm sure all of those are already preserved for future generations through illicit means. I've heard Mao Mao is good, but everything else is stuff I've either heard sucks or is a "meh". So even if they are tax write-offs, in this era of nearly nothing getting home media releases, who really cares?
Uncle Grandpa is still on Hulu, apparently.

I’ll admit a lot of the shows aren’t any big loss, but there’s some really good stuff that got canceled in there, and now some stuff that was being made or was made won’t even be aired and will just sit on a server somewhere. It took 10 years to get a version of that Popeye movie, and that was just in animatic form.

Oh course, that’s if they’re not saying they’re canceling a lot of this only to make a new streaming service for more money and go “look! We saved it for you!”
 

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Infinity Train’s DVD sales have been halted and pulled from Amazon, with the only option to buy secondhand.
Elliot from Earth, Mao Mao, Mighty Magiswords and various other shows have additionally lost all of their webpages on CN-owned sites.

And over 200 legacy episodes of Sesame Street have been pulled from HBO Max without warning.

Pete Browngardt has decided posted this to celebrate the occasion:
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Ouch this sucks. Some of those are good and pity they been canceled or removed in general. Like what the actual fuck.
 
Preservation is important regardless of whether or not one has access to torrenting. There's shows I don't give two shits about being removed from HBO Max and the like, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it.
Exactly, regardless of the shows quality they were no doubt important and entertaining to a fairly sizeable audience, them not being easily accessible easily in a era of fast paced streaming with so much access to media and having to go through stupid hoops simply to watch a show would be an irritant to most people.
 
What Zaslav is doing makes alot of sense if you think of it as getting the pig ready for Comcast to eat. (Or having that as the fallback plan even)

Its either that or he really is against the woke shit. I dont trust that for a second.
 
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Can someone explain why HBO merging with Discover means that all of these shows are now disappearing. I don't quite understand whats going on, it's not like after these companies merge the monster that comes out of it won't own these properties.

I just really don't understand the sperging or the ultimate decision behind the sperging.
 
Can someone explain why HBO merging with Discover means that all of these shows are now disappearing. I don't quite understand whats going on, it's not like after these companies merge the monster that comes out of it won't own these properties.

I just really don't understand the sperging or the ultimate decision behind the sperging.
Discovery wants easy fast money and funding animation cost more money than some cheap reality show or whatnot.
 
i just got peace with myself and idk what will happen next. i just hope that the tv channels for which i do care (tcm, investigation discovery and travel channel sue me for the latter two) just keep being untouched.

i do believe that warner bros. discovery will end to be sold to someone else and for this we got a man making things go poof.
 
Infinity Train’s DVD sales have been halted and pulled from Amazon, with the only option to buy secondhand.
Elliot from Earth, Mao Mao, Mighty Magiswords and various other shows have additionally lost all of their webpages on CN-owned sites.

And over 200 legacy episodes of Sesame Street have been pulled from HBO Max without warning.

Pete Browngardt has decided posted this to celebrate the occasion:
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If sales are pulled from places like itunes then it 100% those shows are tax write offs. DVD sales could just mean they are no longer making see value in producing more DVDs for them ,however that makes me wonder what the plan is with the great Warner Archive Collection.

It started as a manufactured-on-demand (MOD) DVD series by Warner Bros. Home Entertainment on March 23, 2009, with the intention of putting previously unreleased catalog films on DVD for the first time.[3] In November 2012, Warner expanded the Archive Collection to include Blu-ray releases
Be a damn shame if that died.

Seasame Street come 2024/5 I expect Netflix or Disney to try for them now, unless WBD has some plan for them which none of us are wise of and total makes sense which I doubt.
 
Can someone explain why HBO merging with Discover means that all of these shows are now disappearing. I don't quite understand whats going on, it's not like after these companies merge the monster that comes out of it won't own these properties.

I just really don't understand the sperging or the ultimate decision behind the sperging.
Here is why the shows are disappearing.

1. Due to Discovery merging with WB rather than buying it, they have loop hole which allows the new management to write off content for tax reasons. Some shows are projected to take years to make money back so they can go back and make something like Here and Now which is a HBO Show from 2018 a tax write off. If a show is a tax write off that means you won't be able to watch it legally again. Other like Batgirl just don't fit with what they are planning brand wise can also be wrote off. However their is a time limit for them to do this, however unsure however long that time limit is and should only be limited to projects in the works before the merger.

2. The will have to may to pay residuals and if they are getting so low viewership it may not be worth the trouble with admit costs and the such.

3. They are planning to move some content to Discovery+, so that could explain the reason for some of the reality tv stuff. Also seems that some stuff they may move over to HBO normal or even just Cartoon Network.

4. They have said they plan to keep all the big ips on HBO Max however they will start licencing out content to other streaming platform for stuff that does lesser number. So may see them turn up on Netflix or some other service or even just another TV channel.

5. Could be removing content so when they do the new streaming service that combines HBO Max and Discovery+ it seems like it has a lot more new content then it really does. However this one is doubtful.

6. They have an free ad based platform in the works, it is possible they will put some of the lower preforming content on that instead to maximize the money earned from them, while keeping full season of bigger shows behind the paid tiers (one with no ads and one with some ads). Hulu in fact make more money with the paid ad tier than they do with the full price no ad one per a user, so is logic in that. Aren't in alone in this doing a full ad funded streaming app as well, Amazon have Freevee, Paramount have Pluto TV and Fox has tubi.

In terms of them making less animation overall, we really don't know what they are planning. But here is a few thing it could mean or some of the reasons I could see but also covers why people are worried.

1. They don't see the need for more animated shows just less but bigger hits. Stuff like Teen Titans Go or Adventure Time, will not have only done better numbers than those removed from HBO Max but will have also sold more merchandise. So less cartoons overall but overall more cartoons that more have revenue streams.

2. Original cartoons on streamers just don't do big numbers on streamers unless they are based on already known IP. Same reason why Netflix is moving away from original animation tv shows to stuff based on known IPS like Boss Baby, they just do better.

3. They maybe planning to just rerun older stuff from their back catalog to cover the time slots that would have been used for newer animation. While the older stuff may get less overall viewership it saves them money in over areas which could offset the lower viewership. However worth noting Animaniacs did huge business when it was put on Netflix gotlots of newer viewers, this also caused a bidding war for the reboot of the show which Hulu won.

4. Looking up they have had a number of shows under perform such as ThunderCats Roar which was canceled after 1 season, while animation can be cheap but when you have a huge order of 52 episodes even if they are only 10 minutes each the cost adds up. So this could also mean they will do shorter orders of animation rather than the common big upfront orders.


But well still don't know if this will hit adult animation or video on demand movie they do with DC ip and others such as Scooby Doo. However theatrical animation seems more than safe with WBD making it be one of the main sectors within their theatrical strategy.


So sperging comes from a place of just not knowing, not liking what the changes mean for new stuff that could have been made and most importantly some stuff never being able to buy legally again or never seeing the light of day despite being done or nearly done.

So in the case of Batgirl, it legit does mean that movie can legally never see the light of day even if WBD changes their mind, and highly doubtful even if someone bought the company and paid back the tax write off that they could show it.
 
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