The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

I've been trying to remember why I loved the first one. The gameplay was fun IMO, but nothing groundbreaking like in the original Doom or Portal. The plot was a pretty simple reheat of disaster porn tropes and Cormac McCarthy's The Road.

It was the style and execution that made it work so well. The graphics and tone were on point, the voice acting was wonderful, the characters were written and performed with believable human depth. And there was a mature, tasteful restraint to the way the story unfolded. Especially in that last scene, which was perfectly understated and completely in sync with the way those characters in that world would interact.

By comparison, most previous vidyagame efforts at being "cinematic" are cringe even when the game is good. The original Max Payne was 2Edgy4Me like a turn of the century nu-metal band. Deus Ex was hilariously convoluted gibberish. Kojima is obviously some kind of high functioning autist with a giant robot fetish.

TLOU was simple, but not stupid. It has a rock solid emotional core that compares with Bioshock Infinite - another story that works emotionally (and despite the fantastical elements, mushrooms zombies and alternate universe evil versions of the good guy are goony af) because it has a really straightforward, but artfully delivered right hook straight in the feels.

I don't give a shit about TLOU2 because there's no way to improve on perfection, and there's something about CGI teenagers lezzing out for our... what? that makes my skin crawl. I dunno if it's meant to be tittilating, or we're merely meant to whack off to how stunning-and-brave we are for buying Lesbo Mushroom Zombie Simulator, but I get a mental image of sickly, doughy looking middle aged dorks animating this stuff with awkward boners poking through their cargo shorts, and I don't want none of that. They'll probably troon out later.

Joel was the hero and best character of TLOU, and killing him off to make you play as Ellie or some other character you probably care even less about seems like the kind of mistake Kojima made in MGS2. Normal people want to play the badass hero, not the ambiguously gay stand in or the definitely gay nosebeast who isn't even as pretty as Raiden.

It's not even the faggy stuff that's the problem here. You can tell a good story with gay characters. Bill in the original game was queerer than a circus of Joe Exotics, and a great character. Bill being gay was also completely irrelevant to the plot - you didn't feel like his inclusion in the game was due to the writers trying to demonstrate performative wokeness (then tucking and dancing in front of a mirror to Goodbye Horses). It's the difference between how a mature adult tells a story, and how a socially autistic nerd spins a tale. "Look at this" versus "look at me :smug: "

The last game that gave me any emotional resonance was Red Dead Redemption. For me that final scene was less about unexpected consequences and more about showing how utterly fruitless the pursuit of revenge can be. Doesn't matter if you shoot that guy 5 times or 500 times, it will never bring John back.

The faggy parts are only a real problem because she's the only known person with immunity yet chooses to stay gay. There have been other successful integrations of gay characters into survival apocalypse fiction because they are not the only ones with the highest chance of survival. If the human race is legitimately endangered, your sexual orientation gets thrown out the window as opposed to wilful extinction. It would be no different against any other hot-topic quandary, and pretending otherwise is pretty egotistical.
 
The last game that gave me any emotional resonance was Red Dead Redemption. For me that final scene was less about unexpected consequences and more about showing how utterly fruitless the pursuit of revenge can be. Doesn't matter if you shoot that guy 5 times or 500 times, it will never bring John back.

The faggy parts are only a real problem because she's the only known person with immunity yet chooses to stay gay. There have been other successful integrations of gay characters into survival apocalypse fiction because they are not the only ones with the highest chance of survival. If the human race is legitimately endangered, your sexual orientation gets thrown out the window as opposed to wilful extinction. It would be no different against any other hot-topic quandary, and pretending otherwise is pretty egotistical.


That's a good point, especially if she finds out Joel lied and gets pissed about it. I have a feeling though that this will never be addressed and that if it IS, Ellie choosing to not share her immunity via reproduction will be seen as an act of uwu brave gay freedom instead of a selfish decision on her end.
 
Sony apparently put out a notice that the absolute maximum numbers they can ship for PS5 is 6 million worldwide for the launch window and this is for all territories.

If the system comes with a game that people have to absolutely play it's going to be real sought after, The other thing is Japan also wants it's own companies to bring manufacturing back to Japan. Most of the companies they want back are all electronic manufacturers or have electronics being manufactured in china. So the japanese government definitely wants Sony back making shit on their own shores. That in itself would also cause delays.
 
I'm sure shortages will do wonders. Just ask Nintendo.
It just grates my nerves. Especially when pre-orders are still heavily pushed it makes no sense to short shit just for free advertising. All it does it cause the boomers to buy stuff up enmass and horde just like they did with Toilet Paper and paper Towels.

The Xenoblade Special Edition only lasted an hour or so on any other retailer except gamestop(which makes me think it's a conspiracy to promote gamestop).
 
That's a good point, especially if she finds out Joel lied and gets pissed about it. I have a feeling though that this will never be addressed and that if it IS, Ellie choosing to not share her immunity via reproduction will be seen as an act of uwu brave gay freedom instead of a selfish decision on her end.

Probably. I can't imagine a scenario where intentionally withholding immunity during an extinction-level event without needing euthanasia is considered "brave", but it would be interesting to see ND's response to the matter. They can still save themselves a lot of issues by having multiple people with immunity be added, but who knows what they'll do.

If the system comes with a game that people have to absolutely play it's going to be real sought after,

Let me know when you find one.
 
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Probably. I can't imagine a scenario where intentionally withholding immunity during an extinction-level event without needing euthanasia is considered "brave", but it would be interesting to see ND's response to the matter. They can still save themselves a lot of issues by having multiple people with immunity be added, but who knows what they'll do.
But then you have a problem: Ellie's one defining trait, other than being a lesbian, is not special anymore. Really think about it: aside from being a surrogate daughter for Joel - who's supposedly gonna die in this game anyways - and being a "totes cute lesbian bae u guis", what else does she really offer as a character that the other survivors don't offer more of in spades?

Now imagine if there are others more special than her who'd be able to risk their lives to save mankind; then Ellie wouldn't be super duper special anymore, and that would mean they'd actually have to make her character more than just "lesbian cure girl", and we can't very well have that, now can we?
 
Let me know when you find one.
The PS4 launch had nothing all that spectacular. At the time I was finishing my backlog of PS3 games(and actually did wind up finishing my backlog), going into the PS5 launch I know we'll have quite a few NISA games coming that will be compatible with the PS4 and PS5. Atlus will be releasing stuff for Playstation outside of Persona 5 Royal. Square and XSeed are the two that I don't see anything slated for around the time of the PS5 launch.

There's a rumored HD remaster of Folklore that's supposed to be coming, but those rumors were awhile ago.
 
But then you have a problem: Ellie's one defining trait, other than being a lesbian, is not special anymore. Really think about it: aside from being a surrogate daughter for Joel - who's supposedly gonna die in this game anyways - and being a "totes cute lesbian bae u guis", what else does she really offer as a character that the other survivors don't offer more of in spades?

Now imagine if there are others more special than her who'd be able to risk their lives to save mankind; then Ellie wouldn't be super duper special anymore, and that would mean they'd actually have to make her character more than just "lesbian cure girl", and we can't very well have that, now can we?
Well in the original game she had messiah complex of saving humanity before joel shitted all over her wishes
But outside of that....youre right
 
But then you have a problem: Ellie's one defining trait, other than being a lesbian, is not special anymore. Really think about it: aside from being a surrogate daughter for Joel - who's supposedly gonna die in this game anyways - and being a "totes cute lesbian bae u guis", what else does she really offer as a character that the other survivors don't offer more of in spades?

Now imagine if there are others more special than her who'd be able to risk their lives to save mankind; then Ellie wouldn't be super duper special anymore, and that would mean they'd actually have to make her character more than just "lesbian cure girl", and we can't very well have that, now can we?

Ellie did have a personality on the original game--she had serious abandonment issues. This of course was better developed with Joel in him acting as her new dad. She was also occasionally sarcastic, nerdy, and fiercely loyal to the ones she loves. Not a bad character, but again at her best when interacting with Joel.

Now that she's grown up and Joel is getting the shaft, I doubt she will have any new traits or dynamics other than muh lesbians.
 
The PS4 launch had nothing all that spectacular. At the time I was finishing my backlog of PS3 games(and actually did wind up finishing my backlog), going into the PS5 launch I know we'll have quite a few NISA games coming that will be compatible with the PS4 and PS5. Atlus will be releasing stuff for Playstation outside of Persona 5 Royal. Square and XSeed are the two that I don't see anything slated for around the time of the PS5 launch.

There's a rumored HD remaster of Folklore that's supposed to be coming, but those rumors were awhile ago.

I'm hard-pressed to even think of PS3 launch titles that were must-haves. It seems they don't tend to have anything special initially and just slowly build up their library of exclusives over time. Regardless, if they do proper work on their backwards compatibility it should help them tide players over for a while, especially with easy third-party mainstays like CoD putting in work.
 
New rumor is that it’s coming June 26th. With ghost of tshushima being pushed to August 1st.

This all comes from amazon Italy now giving part 2 the release date of the 26th. Yeah amazon listings are BS BUT apparently PlayStation Canada yesterday had the ghost release date as the 1st on the official site.

However still makes no sense why preorders get refunded for what amounts to a 30 day delay.
 
New rumor is that it’s coming June 26th. With ghost of tshushima being pushed to August 1st.

This all comes from amazon Italy now giving part 2 the release date of the 26th. Yeah amazon listings are BS BUT apparently PlayStation Canada yesterday had the ghost release date as the 1st on the official site.

However still makes no sense why preorders get refunded for what amounts to a 30 day delay.
Wait, Tsushima is being pushed back? That's one of the few games I give a crap about. :roll:

TLoU... I remember playing it years ago. Good game, story was good (remember, this was 2013), never played the gay DLC. Nice framing and transition from story to gameplay and I remember having fun with it. Thing is, it's been 7 years since then. We have seen these story driven games done a lot since then and probably better. Having this seemingly "woke" sequel 7 years after the first game won't go well imo. I don't think it will go down as well, given the zeitgeist (if we can even use that term) of today.
 
However still makes no sense why preorders get refunded for what amounts to a 30 day delay.
This is what gets me the most about all this.

Doom Eternal got delayed a whole four months but it didn't refund the pre-order. Instead it added more stuff to make up for the delay, like making Doom 64 a free pre-order bonus. The game needed more time to cook and the developers were transparent about it, so people were forgiving.

This game on the other hand refunded the pre-order completely and claimed that it's being delayed indefinitely. There's far less transparency from the developers and it leads me to believe there's something else going on.
 
I'm more interested in what Sony is going to do with the next God of War because they're rumored to be addressing the biggest weakness for the third person action games, which is vertical movement. Climbing around and scaling up objects has always been rather automated with games like that but they seem to want to make it more free form and organic like how Dragon's Dogma did it.
 
Probably. I can't imagine a scenario where intentionally withholding immunity during an extinction-level event without needing euthanasia is considered "brave", but it would be interesting to see ND's response to the matter. They can still save themselves a lot of issues by having multiple people with immunity be added, but who knows what they'll do.
But then you have a problem: Ellie's one defining trait, other than being a lesbian, is not special anymore. Really think about it: aside from being a surrogate daughter for Joel - who's supposedly gonna die in this game anyways - and being a "totes cute lesbian bae u guis", what else does she really offer as a character that the other survivors don't offer more of in spades?

Now imagine if there are others more special than her who'd be able to risk their lives to save mankind; then Ellie wouldn't be super duper special anymore, and that would mean they'd actually have to make her character more than just "lesbian cure girl", and we can't very well have that, now can we?
Now that you mention it, logically there should more like Ellie. Especially since Joel killed all "muh democracy" retards who knew about Ellie's immunity, including black female.
Who knows, maybe some people lucked out, realized their immunity, and decided to go to the millitary rather than to the maniacs.

Of course, ND would shit all over that, and make Ellie "heroically" kill the facists for daring to side with the faction that has been keeping people safe from the shroomies.
 
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