The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[jeff7989]

Gotta pump those numbers up

 

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Obviously screensaver won't work with Wayland. But a screensaver absolutely could work.

No.

This is literally a direct consequence of the Wayland faggots and their 'no detecting input' policy. Also their hate for natural and aesthetic things. All Wayland devs should be killed.

Oh, well, forget my previous post; running Dota 2 in Proton (GE) got rid of the issue. Seems their native support outside of X11 isn't exactly up to snuff.

Yes, but noone with any common sense uses Wayland, so there's no reason to support it. Why would they natively support a crappier, inferior way to display graphics when X11, or a much less hacky way to do the job is available, like using a complete set of reverse-engineered fake Windows APIs through Wine or Proton?

 

[Ahriman]

https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/10/html-single/10.0_release_notes/index

AI assistant integrated into the command line. Well uh, there it is.

 

[Betonhaus]

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AI assistant integrated into the command line. Well uh, there it is.

What could possibly go wrong

 

[Baguette Child]

AI assistant integrated into the command line.

This is possibly the worst idea I have heard all week and I look forward to reading all the frantic posts from idiots trying to find help when it fucks their shit up.

 

[Susanna]

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AI assistant integrated into the command line. Well uh, there it is.

Oh, that’s neat. I can actually see a use case for this, like tldr or man for commands I don’t use often enough to have already learned. ”AI, which command do I run to view image metadata from these files?” ”You can use exiftool to do this. It’s not currently installed. You can run it temporarily using nix-shell -p exiftool —run exiftool”

No.

This is literally a direct consequence of the Wayland faggots and their 'no detecting input' policy. Also their hate for natural and aesthetic things. All Wayland devs should be killed.

Nonsense, I’ve got a screensaver running right now. In KDE set your Lock Screen to the shader plugin, then either select a preinstalled shader you like or go on shadertoy to download one (needs to be compiled, but that’s easy).

Yes, but noone with any common sense uses Wayland, so there's no reason to support it. Why would they natively support a crappier, inferior way to display graphics when X11, or a much less hacky way to do the job is available, like using a complete set of reverse-engineered fake Windows APIs through Wine or Proton?

It should still have worked using Xwayland.
And Wayland, perpetually incomplete as it is, offers several advantages over X11. For example significantly better performance for the ubiquitous compositors DEs use today.

 

[Betonhaus]

Oh, that’s neat. I can actually see a use case for this, like tldr or man for commands I don’t use often enough to have already learned. ”AI, which command do I run to view image metadata from these files?” ”You can use exiftool to do this. It’s not currently installed. You can run it temporarily using nix-shell -p exiftool —run exiftool”

I'd have to see it in action, my concern is that you would describe what you want to do and it would automatically run the commands, which may or may not miss important context about your configuration and break things. Probably the biggest problem is if it doesn't keep track of the working directory and starts moving critical files to ~/ or somewhere unhelpful

 

[Polyarmory]

SteamOS has potential to fundamentally change the OS landscape in my opinion. Everyone hates Windows, Linux is a pain in the ass and confusing, and Mac is expensive and annoying. Most people use their computers to use the browser and play video games, and SteamOS will supply those two features with less bullshit than any of the existing options right now.

 

[Betonhaus]

Valve should roll their own chromium based browser and make SteamOS have a ChromeOS mode if users want it. You can still have a full desktop if needed, but for users that just want to play games and do internet stuff the browser os interface would be good enough.

 

[Ahriman]

Oh, that’s neat. I can actually see a use case for this, like tldr or man for commands I don’t use often enough to have already learned. ”AI, which command do I run to view image metadata from these files?” ”You can use exiftool to do this. It’s not currently installed. You can run it temporarily using nix-shell -p exiftool —run exiftool”

Yea that's kinda how I see it. As long as you don't do anything too stupid, it has plenty of potential for being useful, especially in a pinch.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

SteamOS has potential to fundamentally change the OS landscape in my opinion. Everyone hates Windows, Linux is a pain in the ass and confusing, and Mac is expensive and annoying. Most people use their computers to use the browser and play video games, and SteamOS will supply those two features with less bullshit than any of the existing options right now.

Yeah. Linux mint is something only a mensa level genius to browse the Internet on.

Arch and Gentoo. You literally have to be a god walking amongst us on earth to use.

 

[Polyarmory]

Yeah. Linux mint is something only a mensa level genius to browse the Internet on.

Arch and Gentoo. You literally have to be a god walking amongst us on earth to use.

This attitude is exactly why Linux struggles. My grandma shouldn't have to rtfm and git gud to open her emails. While that stuff may be easy to you, even just flashing the OS onto a USB and booting the computer is a daunting and scary process for a nontechnical person. There is simply no substitute for the OS coming pre-installed.

Imagine a car company that sells cars a little bit cheaper (most of the cost is hardware), but to drive one, you had to correctly configure the engine, and when you ask the people at AutoZone for help, they just say you're too stupid to be driving a Subaru. That's where Linux is right now.

 

[Slav Power]

This attitude is exactly why Linux struggles. My grandma shouldn't have to rtfm and git gud to open her emails. While that stuff may be easy to you, even just flashing the OS onto a USB and booting the computer is a daunting and scary process for a nontechnical person. There is simply no substitute for the OS coming pre-installed.

Imagine a car company that sells cars a little bit cheaper (most of the cost is hardware), but to drive one, you had to correctly configure the engine, and when you ask the people at AutoZone for help, they just say you're too stupid to be driving a Subaru. That's where Linux is right now.

I think today's mood swing is "Linux is an elite club for elite members only". Try repeating this argument once the mood swing is "Linux has to dethrone Windows as the #1 desktop OS" and maybe it'll land better.

 

[volatile puar]

It has been possible to buy a computer pre-installed with Linux from the manufacturer for a long time.

 

[Ahriman]

This attitude is exactly why Linux struggles. My grandma shouldn't have to rtfm and git gud to open her emails. While that stuff may be easy to you, even just flashing the OS onto a USB and booting the computer is a daunting and scary process for a nontechnical person. There is simply no substitute for the OS coming pre-installed.

Imagine a car company that sells cars a little bit cheaper (most of the cost is hardware), but to drive one, you had to correctly configure the engine, and when you ask the people at AutoZone for help, they just say you're too stupid to be driving a Subaru. That's where Linux is right now.

Arch and Gentoo users.

 

[Polyarmory]

It has been possible to buy a computer pre-installed with Linux from the manufacturer for a long time.

This is true, but afaik, you don't find stuff like that in Best Buy or whatever, which SteamOS may change.

That being said, if Windows keeps getting worse at the current rate, it's not completely unrealistic that normal people will start going out of their way for Linux machines just so that their computer will be simple and get the fuck out of the way. It's insane to me that the last Windows OS people actually liked is 15 years old at this point, and I think normal people are starting to feel real discontentment with it.
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[Battlefield42]

Linux is troon OS confirmed

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

This is true, but afaik, you don't find stuff like that in Best Buy or whatever, which SteamOS may change.

They are correct in being able to buy a Linux machine from the manufacturer, but its buried deep on OEM's websites and only available for high spec workstations.
The real turning point is when the OEM's like HP, Lenovo etc start telling Microsoft to fuck off and selling Linux machines in stores.
Which isn't happening any time soon.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

This attitude is exactly why Linux struggles. My grandma shouldn't have to rtfm and git gud to open her emails. While that stuff may be easy to you, even just flashing the OS onto a USB and booting the computer is a daunting and scary process for a nontechnical person. There is simply no substitute for the OS coming pre-installed.

Imagine a car company that sells cars a little bit cheaper (most of the cost is hardware), but to drive one, you had to correctly configure the engine, and when you ask the people at AutoZone for help, they just say you're too stupid to be driving a Subaru. That's where Linux is right now.

Imagine your grandma trying to install steamos onto a desktop.

And yes. Opening Firefox is easy for me on Linux mint. You click the icon.

Actually. This is even dumber. Linux is available right now. On common, cheap computers. It's called chromeOS. And it absolutely is linux. It's the most nigger-cattlfied version possible. But it's Linux and it's easy for anyone to get a computer with it pre installed.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Imagine a car company that sells cars a little bit cheaper (most of the cost is hardware), but to drive one, you had to correctly configure the engine, and when you ask the people at AutoZone for help, they just say you're too stupid to be driving a Subaru. That's where Linux is right now.

Dell and Lenovo both offer a range of laptops with Linux preconfigured (usually ubuntu). You can also buy linux laptops at a somewhat reasonable price from other manufacturers (Slimbook, Juno, System76, and a few others). The latter can be a bit niche, but it's hardly the barren hellscape you're trying to portray it as.