The Matrix Resurrections Thread - Woah

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WTG, Girl! U nailed the Sideshow Bob Cosplay!

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Manwithn0n0men said:
I have almost microscopically low expectations for this movie to not be trash
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It will be terrible, I'm sure. The Wachowskis are talented writer/directors, but they have always let their weird shit infect and compromise their work (remember the rave scene in Reloaded?) and they're both getting weirder over time. I didn't even bother giving Sense8 a try.
 
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frozenrunner said:
It will be terrible, I'm sure. The Wachowskis are talented writer/directors, but they have always let their weird shit infect and compromise their work (remember the rave scene in Reloaded?) and they're both getting weirder over time. I didn't even bother giving Sense8 a try.
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And their adaption of Cloud Atlas was actually kind of genius but you only get that if you know the source.

Cloud atlas is a book divided into a series of flashbacks and flash forwards.

So the Sibs broke those flashbacks and forwards into smaller scenes and reorganized them to tell their own story [while still being the same story as the book]
 
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Manwithn0n0men said:
And their adaption of Cloud Atlas was actually kind of genius but you only get that if you know the source.

Cloud atlas is a book divided into a series of flashbacks and flash forwards.

So the Sibs broke those flashbacks and forwards into smaller scenes and reorganized them to tell their own story [while still being the same story as the book]
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I loved the film and never read the book. Even their gender-bending stuff really worked with the concept of reusing the same cast of actors across the different storylines/timelines/whatever.

Of course, today they would be accused of "yellowface" for using non-Asian actors playing Asians. (Which was really cool in the movie, honestly.) If they weren't troons, I mean.
 
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Yeah, I’m not enthused by this news. The Trilogy ended pretty definitively, so they’re really going to be grasping at straws with this one.

You know what would be interesting? If they went back and did the sequels over again. Sure, they could just screw it up even worse than they did before and it would set a rather uncomfortable precedent for filmmakers, but I’d at least respect them for trying. None of the main cast look like they’ve aged a day since the first film was made (Keanu’s agelessness is a meme at this point), so you wouldn’t even have an issue on the casting front.

I’m not particularly attached to this franchise though, so I don’t really care what happens. The first Matrix was a decent action movie with delusions of grandeur. None of the philosophical ideas it presented were as new or groundbreaking as people said they were at the time, but it was entertaining enough. The sequels were just a load of rubbish. Reloaded has its moments, and some of the action scenes in Revolutions are superficially fun, but I find them both to be dull nonsense for the most part. So yeah, no real desire to check this out.
 
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TheImportantFart said:
Yeah, I’m not enthused by this news. The Trilogy ended pretty definitively, so they’re really going to be grasping at straws with this one.

You know what would be interesting? If they went back and did the sequels over again. Sure, they could just screw it up even worse than they did before and it would set a rather uncomfortable precedent for filmmakers, but I’d at least respect them for trying. None of the main cast look like they’ve aged a day since the first film was made (Keanu’s agelessness is a meme at this point), so you wouldn’t even have an issue on the casting front.

I’m not particularly attached to this franchise though, so I don’t really care what happens. The first Matrix was a decent action movie with delusions of grandeur. None of the philosophical ideas it presented were as new or groundbreaking as people said they were at the time, but it was entertaining enough. The sequels were just a load of rubbish. Reloaded has its moments, and some of the action scenes in Revolutions are superficially fun, but I find them both to be dull nonsense for the most part. So yeah, no real desire to check this out.
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Also the rumored story is this is a 4th movie coda thats also a stealth reboot

If it wasnt that Keanu is a national treasure i'd hard pass it
 
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Dom Cruise said:
Also the Machine ambassador's comment at the end about "the flesh is only a vessel" is kind of interesting in light of both of the Wachowskis since becoming trans.
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It explains a lot, doesn't it?

Of course, our bodies are not merely vessels, they *are* us. There's no real dichotomy between the flesh and the mind, consciousness is an emergent property of human biology and can't be abstracted or virtualized like a computer program.

Troonism is an extreme manifestation of a horribly wrong idea of what the self is, and it's not a coinkydink that a disproportionate percentage of people with mental health and sexual identity pathologies are also science fiction fans.
 
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Sexual Chocolate said:
It explains a lot, doesn't it?

Of course, our bodies are not merely vessels, they *are* us. There's no real dichotomy between the flesh and the mind, consciousness is an emergent property of human biology and can't be abstracted or virtualized like a computer program.

Troonism is an extreme manifestation of a horribly wrong idea of what the self is, and it's not a coinkydink that a disproportionate percentage of people with mental health and sexual identity pathologies are also science fiction fans.
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Flesh, Mind, and Spirit is a WESTERN construction
 
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I guess here's a Behind the Scenes photo (someone posted in the TDS thread):
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How much are they gonna retcon? Did the sequels even matter? The Matrix was only a success because it was a film that made and release at the right place and time. It apes off huge swatches of Cyberpunk shit. Groundbreaking in its day but I can't even bare to watch now of days.
 
Who cares about sequels to past popular movies? After the star wars and other modern franchise sequels turning woke/shit you think people would want to watch it?
 
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