The Matrix Resurrections Thread - Woah

[ZipDisk]

I read the leaks.

The movie sounds very busy, and very shit. As to the member berries, it's a fucking checklist.

The cat is named Deja-vu.

In the original movie, the cat was bad news, it meant you were being actively fucked with by the system.

In Matrix 4, it's a mascot.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

So are trans people individuals who were put into the wrong avatar by the matrix? Wouldn't that mean that trannies don't really exist?

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I kinda want to support the movie because Keanu is such an actually-good person, but like….this movie sounds pretty iffy at best.

 

[Raging Capybara]

I kinda want to support the movie because Keanu is such an actually-good person, but like….this movie sounds pretty iffy at best.

He already got his paycheck, there's nothing more to do. Stay away from this trash fire.

 

[The Doom Slayer]

 

[Absolutego]

So are trans people individuals who were put into the wrong avatar by the matrix? Wouldn't that mean that trannies don't really exist?

IIRC the argument, at least for Switch, was that she was a transwoman and her residual self-image was therefore female in the Matrix, which means unplugging trannies would create a Cypher-in-the-making trying to get back into the Matrix to avoid the horrible dysphoria of their real world existence.

No matter which way you slice it, the idea that the Matrix is a trans allegory leads to some unfortunate implications about the story, which is why I'm certain the Wachowskis never actually intended it, and this whole thing is just trying to grab good press for a shitty reboot.

 

[LightDragonman1]

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I gotta say, if the leaks for the film's plot are true, then this claim by the Wachowskis is just a bunch of hot air. There's not really any "trans commentary" that I can see in the movie unless you squint you eyes really hard.

Based on the reviews so far, it seems like Lana and the writers decided to try making this film be some sort of meta-commentary on the nature of franchises and sequels, ala Metal Gear Solid 2. Not to mention that it also seems to be using all the references to past material in the same way as Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 (which, funnily enough, was practically an anime take on The Matrix Revolutions). Whether or not that was a good decision or even turned out well is still up in the air, for me at least until I see it for myself.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

So are trans people individuals who were put into the wrong avatar by the matrix? Wouldn't that mean that trannies don't really exist?

Don't ask question. Don't poke holes through trans naratives. Just consume trans stuff.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I kinda want to support the movie because Keanu is such an actually-good person, but like….this movie sounds pretty iffy at best.

Lucky for us, he has so many other projects we can support.

 

[Getting tard comed]

I admit was like 5 when I saw this, but why did it suck? Id have to rewatch but I remember it being better then 90% of the shit we have now.

Primarily it sucked for most people because while the first Matrix had a lot of symbolism and a philosophical bent to it, it kept that shit in the background and it was subtle. Reloaded put all of that in the forefront with the last 20 minutes of the movie, the climax if you will, the thing the audience has watched it's cast of characters work for the entire film, was a conversation that undermined the entire point of the first movie everyone loved.

Couple that with scenes like the Agent Smith fight which were cool in concept but looked bad at the time CGI wise and is a waste of time as someone already mentioned(you might not have noticed, but your brain did) and it leads to a bad audience experience.

Basically Reloaded was a proto-Last Jedi but instead of destroying the underpinnings of an entire franchise, it did it to one movie.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

So Neo gives Trinity "the one" power and she becomes the new one.. fuck

you know in the past, (i mean now), it took one or two generations to destroy the legacy. Now it destroys itself within the same generation!!

 

[LightDragonman1]

you know in the past, (i mean now), it took one or two generations to destroy the legacy. Now it destroys itself within the same generation!!

Based on if the leaks are true, I actually don't think that's the case. Neo is still The One, its just that Trinity completes him, and he can only use his powers when they are together, thus also giving her the ability to fly and the like. Or something like that.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

Based on if the leaks are true, I actually don't think that's the case. Neo is still The One, its just that Trinity completes him, and he can only use his powers when they are together, thus also giving her the ability to fly and the like. Or something like that.

That's a bigger what the fuck.

 

[UnKillFill]

Wait.. What the fuck? The *NotMorpheus black guy in this new Matrix movie who *isn't* Lawrence Fishburne, is actually *still* meant to be Morpheus?

This isn't even the first time that the Wachowski Brothers err.. I mean Sisters.. err... I mean retarded troon siblings, recast a blacktor with a totally different blacktor.
At least the first time they did it, it was because the woman who played the Oracle in the first Matrix died in between films. But this time, Lawrence Fishburne is still alive.

I'm starting to think that these retarded troon siblings (who tend to make terrible films) might actually be just a little bit racist.

 

[Joe Cool]

Saw the movie yesterday. Happy to answer questions (oh and who wants to fucking touch me!?).

 

[Oats12345]

Saw the movie yesterday. Happy to answer questions (oh and who wants to fucking touch me!?).

Was it as bad as we all thought

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Saw the movie yesterday. Happy to answer questions (oh and who wants to fucking touch me!?).

Does the movie have a reason to exist?

 

[Joe Cool]

Was it as bad as we all thought

I didn't care much for the ending, felt a bit lazy (zombies, WTF). However it's not terrible and didn't feel as much as a letdown as Revolutions.

Does the movie have a reason to exist?

It felt like they were using it as an opportunity to right some of the wrongs from the previous film. But if you're of a more cynical bent it's money.

 

[Michael Wade]

I didn't care much for the ending, felt a bit lazy (zombies, WTF). However it's not terrible and didn't feel as much as a letdown as Revolutions.



It felt like they were using it as an opportunity to right some of the wrongs from the previous film. But if you're of a more cynical bent it's money.

Is it a depressing sequel hook ending?

 

[Joe Cool]

Is it a depressing sequel hook ending?

It's a happier ending this time and there doesn't seem to be any obvious avenue they could explore in a direct sequel (at least probably not with those characters - they're all powerful now). There are other ideas they could use for prequels perhaps.