The Paranormal

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Quiet Guy said:
In Tesla's theory would some kind of field be oscillating? What would prevent disparate frequencies from interacting? Does anyone have a hypothesis as to what could interfere with the laws of physics in such as scenario?
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This is from the CIA release.

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Mothra1988 said:
You don't even need to go all the way to the glowies. A lot of normalfag police departments work with psychics on certain cases because they can produce results especially when leads on important cases dry up.
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I just like seeing what the explanation is laid out. Not just saying "there are spirits" or "there are psychic powers" there has to be some mechanism behind them. And the energy frequency explanation is the best one I've seen.

But then how do you start measuring whats going on in the upper and lower frequencies? Is CERN doing something like that?
 
I've never seen or experienced the paranormal myself, but my mom and her siblings are 100% certain that ghosts are real. They're all very honest people, so I believe them.

Apparently my grandparents' house was haunted by the ghost of a little boy. He wasn't malicious or anything, and he could sometimes be heard in the guest bedroom upstairs. Everyone in the house would occasionally hear footsteps upstairs, like he was pacing around inside the bedroom. He was seen twice - once by my mom and once by a family friend.

There was a bathroom upstairs just past the bedroom, and my mom really didn't like having to use it. She told me you could sometimes hear faint murmuring (like he was talking or humming to himself) when you walked past the room. The one time she saw him, she was walking to the bathroom and saw the bedroom door was open. She took a glance inside and saw a little boy sitting on the bed - not doing anything in particular or even looking at her, just sitting there. She immediately turned around and went back downstairs, lol. The family friend who saw him on another occasion had a similar experience - went upstairs, saw a little boy sitting on the bed, got confused and went back downstairs to ask why there was a kid up there.

They don't know who the boy is. There hadn't been a death in the house before, so my mom's guess is that he's just a lonely ghost who moved into the spare bedroom. Kind of a shame that no one tried to interact with him...

After my grandparents died, the house was sold, so I unfortunately can't visit again. And no one even told me about the ghost until my late teens. It's interesting, because I remember when I was growing up, we'd visit my grandparents once a year. But my mom would never let me and my siblings stay in the guest bedroom. We'd have to sleep on the couches and some air mattresses downstairs instead. I always thought that was weird, but it suddenly made sense when she explained years later.

I never heard or saw the ghost during those childhood visits, sadly.
 
I dont personally have any stories of my own that qre terribly direct. A ritual that was fulfilled in a very roundabout way and a bad feeling about a car accident my dad was going to get into are the most direct experiences Ive personally had. However, my brother had a different experience. He told me once in confidence that he personally met the devil himself. He was a dark skinned black man in an old style zoot suit and the smoothest voice he ever heard, like the smoothest honeyed music. He came to him at his uncles funeral, imparted some words one-on-one and left. Whether it was a variant of lucifer or some other Ars Goetia demon is unknown to me and hopefully I dont find out. Either way, the discussion of the topic does incite a certain stained feeling in me. Luckily, he has baptized recently so the entity might leave him alone for now.
 
So glad more frens are sharing stories here. This helps out my own studies greatly, however anecdotal/circumstantial they might be.
ToroidalBoat said:
Swedenborg* (1688-1772) said there's a spiritual world and material world, that the material "corresponds" to the spiritual, and that there's spiritual and natural minds. Instead of the spiritual being some incorporeal material entity in New Church though, it's an entity beyond the material realm of space, time, and matter entirely.

*(pronounced like "sveh-den-bor-yuh" with the R like in Spanish or Japanese)
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Swedenborg is really, really good shit (especially as it relates to this topic).
 
Omen_Sulk said:
This is from the CIA release.

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I get the feeling they might not know what they're doing. For example, they claim their system would allow them to gain, "access to the various levels of intuitive knowledge which the universe offers", which seems like a bunch of buzzwords. It also says, "the entire body, based on its own micromotion, functions as a tuned vibrational system which transfers energy in a range of 6.8 and 7.5 Hertz into the earth's ionospheric cavity which itself resonates at about 7-7.5 Hertz." Are they trying to claim that motion in the body is transferred to the atmosphere where it resonates and somehow carries information? It also talks about generating a sound wave that resonates with an electrostatic field. Is that even possible? It refers to particles as, "oscillating energy grids". Are they talking about probability functions? In section 14 it seems to hypothesize that energy from the surroundings are perceived by the brain by electrostatic fields. Is this supposed to be mediated by probability functions? Also, wouldn't any signal from the surroundings be likely to be incoherent? Wouldn't this mean coherent brain activity wouldn't be helpful in detecting signals? Also, I haven't read the whole thing yet, but it seems like this might just be a different form of materialism that doesn't incorporate a form of free will.

With all that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the government has encountered demons because of this sort of thing, and that is the cause of much of the degeneracy we see today.
 
Quiet Guy said:
I get the feeling they might not know what they're doing. For example, they claim their system would allow them to gain, "access to the various levels of intuitive knowledge which the universe offers", which seems like a bunch of buzzwords. It also says, "the entire body, based on its own micromotion, functions as a tuned vibrational system which transfers energy in a range of 6.8 and 7.5 Hertz into the earth's ionospheric cavity which itself resonates at about 7-7.5 Hertz." Are they trying to claim that motion in the body is transferred to the atmosphere where it resonates and somehow carries information? It also talks about generating a sound wave that resonates with an electrostatic field. Is that even possible? It refers to particles as, "oscillating energy grids". Are they talking about probability functions? In section 14 it seems to hypothesize that energy from the surroundings are perceived by the brain by electrostatic fields. Is this supposed to be mediated by probability functions? Also, wouldn't any signal from the surroundings be likely to be incoherent? Wouldn't this mean coherent brain activity wouldn't be helpful in detecting signals? Also, I haven't read the whole thing yet, but it seems like this might just be a different form of materialism that doesn't incorporate a form of free will.

With all that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the government has encountered demons because of this sort of thing, and that is the cause of much of the degeneracy we see today.
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Well thats what they had in the 80's, it's now 40 years later. I wonder what the current reports look like.
 
Omen_Sulk said:
Well thats what they had in the 80's, it's now 40 years later. I wonder what the current reports look like.
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I forgot to mention this, but it's possible there are things I'm not understanding in it. Does it make more sense to anyone else?
 
Quiet Guy said:
I forgot to mention this, but it's possible there are things I'm not understanding in it. Does it make more sense to anyone else?
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I think some of it is woowoo, because how do you get a scientific recording of an out of body experience? I'm just going on the theories of Tesla, and the scientist cited. It's hard to get a clear picture.

Maybe this video of congressional testimony might help you. It was a few years ago, a compilation of leaks.

 
My spouse is convinced our house is haunted by something of a "neutral ghost". I love to read about the paranormal but, I really doubted ghosts existed beyond in a fictional entertainment context. Our dog however, has me rethinking the concept. In the middle of the night he seems to wake up very angry and agitated, growling at the darkness. The most interesting part is he seems to face the doorway to our hall and look exactly at the height a normal adult human would stand, somewhere around 5'6"-6"6. I keep a flashlight on the bed-stand incase of emergencies and I shine it at what he's barking at and there is always nothing there. There are no rodents in the house, the house is extreamly secure physically speaking and we have an NVR system running 24/7. he is fairly selective about what he growls at it's almost exclusively things he can see. It's just something I can't come up with a rational explanation for.
 
I thought about the possibility life after death. And my conclusion is: It probably exist.

Why? Because we are living in a fucking retarded clown universe/ reality/ dimension whatsoever. There is so much insanity going on here on earth so I think the chance is high that this shit doesn't end after you croak. Death being the end sounds too good to be true. If you think you will one day enter eternal oblivion, never having to deal with anything anymore, well then you are out of luck because of course you are forced to exist in some way or another. :roll:

The madness isn't going to end. Hell, it could even get more retarded.

You thought that was the end? Guess what, dipshit, no rest for you, ever!

I also have the weird suspicion that, if "everything" was indeed created and not...idk came to somehow exist without outside force, that something went wrong at some point. Someone or something fucked up and now we are living in this awful mess with no end in sight.

Welp, that's just my weird ramblings.

If I was a crazy hobo with a street sign, my sign wouldn't say: "The end is nigh!" but "There is no motherfucking end! 🤡🌏"
 
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Sinner's Sandwich said:
I thought about the possibility life after death. And my conclusion is: It probably exist.
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Not only that, I've sometimes had this weird suspicion that I actually have died, but just woke up in a different timeline where I didn't. Which to me would explain things like the Mandela Effect, not just on a large scale but on a personal level, where people remember shit happening that I know for a fact could not have happened.
 
Omen_Sulk said:
From what I've read, the consciousness, and the body are considered seperate. Existing in the same body, its just that the conciousness operates on a different frequency. Which would correlate with the declassified CIA report that remote viewing is possible. And at the precise moment of death, people lose weight by 21g.

There is another you, thats not completely within this bandwidth, that's connected to your physical body.
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I highly recommend listening to scientists Roger Penrose & Stuart Hameroff. They are researching the link between consciousness and quantum physics.

 
Omen_Sulk said:
I think some of it is woowoo, because how do you get a scientific recording of an out of body experience? I'm just going on the theories of Tesla, and the scientist cited. It's hard to get a clear picture.
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There's some pretty interesting information on this in terms of near death experiences, even if it's not strictly double blind control group tested. Specifically, patients who underwent surgery were asked if they had an out of body experience. If they did, they were asked to describe what they saw in the surgery that they were undergoing. If they didn't, they were asked to just imagine what the surgery might have been like.

Those who reported out of body experiences had much, MUCH more accurate descriptions of the surgery, including details an average person wouldn't know. Those who were asked to imagine the surgery had generally inaccurate descriptions that were more similar to what you'd see on a TV show.
 
I think haunted houses, alien abduction, cryptids etc. are just really fun and I honestly don't care if it's real or not.
 
Anything on déjá vu dreams? You dreamt of yourself in certain place and then within a few days you find yourself in the exact spot your dream and everything that is happening, happened exactly like it did in the dream, triggering the the feeling of déjá vu.

Also has anyone experienced a groundhog day? I'm convinced I did once, my parents would sometimes let me stay at my grandparents on the weekend, leave to stay over after school on Fridays and be brought back home on Sunday. Well come Friday night I go to sleep and wake up on Saturday and enjoy my full Saturday, go to bed and awake again on Sunday and ask my grandfather what time will he be taking me home at, only to be met with a look of confusion and be told that it's only Saturday.

Besides me asking what time I will be going home and telling my grandfather that I was already here for Saturday, everything I did and down to what I had for dinner, what shows where on TV and what people where conversing about happened exactly alike as the Saturday I already experienced. Go to sleep on the "new" Saturday to wake up and it's Sunday officially.
 
Mr Bunny said:
Anything on déjá vu dreams? You dreamt of yourself in certain place and then within a few days you find yourself in the exact spot your dream and everything that is happening, happened exactly like it did in the dream, triggering the the feeling of déjá vu.
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Dunno if this counts but many times i've had dreams about certain events or things like breaking up with a friend or making up with or talking to someone i used to know and stuff like that and usually the next day or eventually it happens, could just be a subconscious thing though.
 
Mr Bunny said:
Anything on déjá vu dreams? You dreamt of yourself in certain place and then within a few days you find yourself in the exact spot your dream and everything that is happening, happened exactly like it did in the dream, triggering the the feeling of déjá vu.

Also has anyone experienced a groundhog day? I'm convinced I did once, my parents would sometimes let me stay at my grandparents on the weekend, leave to stay over after school on Fridays and be brought back home on Sunday. Well come Friday night I go to sleep and wake up on Saturday and enjoy my full Saturday, go to bed and awake again on Sunday and ask my grandfather what time will he be taking me home at, only to be met with a look of confusion and be told that it's only Saturday.

Besides me asking what time I will be going home and telling my grandfather that I was already here for Saturday, everything I did and down to what I had for dinner, what shows where on TV and what people where conversing about happened exactly alike as the Saturday I already experienced. Go to sleep on the "new" Saturday to wake up and it's Sunday officially.
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Only weird thing that happened to me is that I was walking through the suburbs one night to the shops. And what I thought was a dog was walking towards me. I continued walking, thinking that the dog would notice me and react. But it just kept walking towards me. As it got closer I noticed it was a Fox or Jackal. It walked right past me as if I wasn't even there, I had to turn and make sure I wasn't seeing things. It just kept going straight down the road into the darkness.

My mother told me she had weird experiences though. She's seen a ghost one time. Shes had a horrible feeling in the car and told someone to stop the car, and she got out and ran to the side railing to see someone had run their car off the road and crashed.

I'm thinking some people are more "in-tune" with the paranormal.
 
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