They wouldn't have achieved the same results if it weren't for the testosterone. They would have had to take steroids, which would still give them manly qualities. Natty female body builders look great though, they just aren't as big as that. I follow a few on tiktok.
That's not entirely fair, though. One could argue that pooners are just women with piercings and troons are the ones that inject literal cement on their bodies. There's low effort transsexuals all across the board.
If it's any consolation for you both, I seriously doubt the pattern "third world gets ideological handmedowns from the first world" will keep holding much longer, and I'd argue it's already not holding. Internet penetration made it really easy for the population anywhere in the world to see the consequences of these things. And I think even without the knowledge of the consequences, it's much easier for countries to do their own thing.
I wasn't complaining about anything but the face and head.
In most area of the world where HRT and surgery is not readily available pooners would just be women in men's clothing and seen as a butch lesbian or tomboy.
I disagree with that, because it's a fine line between just getting a little more buff and having all the other side effects of steroids have on women. Steroids aren't good for anyone in the long run, and cycling doesn't prevent the body and voice changes. Once you cross that line there is no going back. We just don't hear about it much, because by the time these men and women turn 40 and start dying off, they're usually forgotten about. It's vain to make changes solely to look marginally better in your 20s and 30s. That should never be encouraged. If you don't mind manly, frog-sounding, buff women for aesthetics or just to get your rocks off, then that's on you, but that doesn't mean it is healthy or morally correct or that people should do it. Neither testosterone nor steroids are not good for women, but strength training and eating enough protein to build muscle is. Honestly steroids are a drug just like T and the people who take it are addicts.
Yeah hard disagree there. Natty women are way hotter than roided out women. Maybe you're gay lmao
That's a fair point, yeah, albeit it plays into externally identifying someone as troon (you can't know what people feel, you bigot!). I think it has to do with it not being as much of a faux pass for women to wear men's clothes (unless under sharia law). So men doing it are more easily clockable, since it's much more transgressive, even if they're low effort. If we pick only people who actively make us clutch our pearls, then yeah, that'd hold.
Yeah that's exactly how it goes. My small European country is always a good 5 years behind Murrica/the Angloids, so while trans nonsense is winding down over there, we're going through the worst of it now. At least seeing that it is passing in other countries gives me hope, but oh my god is it annoying to go through it all over again, but now in daily life and not just online.
I think I wrote something ITT about pooners being especially godless because they have no predecessor. If you look back into history and myth there's nothing about women transforming into men other than Caeneus as the singular example.
Mild faggotry detected.
What's most interesting about this fact is that steroids and other androgens have been around for almost a century. It's only in the last ~20 years that we saw poonery take hold, so it can't only be related to synthetic T. The only way I could make sense of it is if there had been something that made T/steroids way too cheap on the industrial side of things, but I don't think that happened, and you'd expect to see more male steroid users too. Maybe it does have something to do with this, since sourcing it from the ibternet is easier than ever, but where are the roidheads, then?
The sharp increase in FtMs is due to the social contagion aspect, as before recently it hardly ever cropped up on its own. Thus the sudden demand for pooner HRT.
The most homosexual yet, somehow, straight thing I've heard today
When I see dumb pooners in rural Arkansas or whatever working at a Jack in the Box, I see it as being on its last leg. Yeah, it's tragic it got that far, but being a fat dumb hick bearded lady is not aspirational or cool. Just like when you see fashion trends at Target, or a meme on your uncle's Facebook, you know it's at the end of the road and the rest of the world is on to the next one.
Lmao that girl has drawn zippertits on her binder. Lolol
This needs to go in the FAFO Hall of Fame. Wonderful
Pooner Lawyer claims she was going to get a meat roll installed in January but.......Trump.
I'll do it!
Well, that shut me up. But there are invariably revisions and stuff that won't be covered. I still think she chickened out because her vagina was screaming "don't throw me into the vooooooooid!"
I didn't mean to shut you up.
Is she a big time lawyer, or one of the broke ones? Trans people have a talent for soaking public resources.
I can't imagine worrying about a having fake penis when you have this obvious and untenable of a roadblock to passing. Unless you're a freaking dwarf or double amputee you're not a male under '5 and under 100 lbs.
