The Square Enix Griefing Thread

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Isn't that nuts? I suspect that most of us here are invested in Squeenix due to loving Squaresoft in the 90's. At this point, I've been routinely disappointed by Square Enix's releases for twice as long as I was enjoying them...but the old stuff was so good that I can't fully give up on them like some kind of battered wife who keeps going back to her husband.

Yeah, our husband Square-Enix still treats us well sometimes, so we stay. If they ever ruin Dragon Quest or fuck up a significant remake like Chrono Trigger then they'll have nobody left, I can't imagine there'd be any fans left at all.

Without spoiling anything: It's not actually a remake. It's more akin to a reimagining, but the original still occurred and is canon to the remake. If you haven't played the original, then you won't be able to pick up on it & it shouldn't ruin anything for you, but there are a lot of points where things play out differently from the original and the characters are somewhat aware of that.

It's an interesting way to keep the game fresh for those of us who obsessively played the original while still releasing something approachable for newbies without 25+ years of history with the game. I'm not a fan of it, and would have preferred a 1:1 remake, but I can see what they were going for. If you enjoy the remake, then try the ps1 version and this will all make sense + add a lot of context for the final part of the remake.

What would be great is if they re-use the assets after the new trilogy is done and do a proper FF7 remake, turn-based battles and all. They'd have the bulk of the work done already.

 

[ShitLurker]

If you enjoy the remake, then try the ps1 version and this will all make sense + add a lot of context for the final part of the remake.

Yeah, the end is a pretty big clusterfuck without any context from the original (and still a clusterfuck even if you have). Biggest case of wanting to have your cake and eat it I've ever seen. That they really wanted to jam in a Sephiroth fight at that point is a huge fuck up in every sense. Yes, it's kind of lame if the last boss is the pursuit bot but they went too fucking hard with the ghosts, multiphase battle with Sephiroth and so on.

What would be great is if they re-use the assets after the new trilogy is done and do a proper FF7 remake, turn-based battles and all. They'd have the bulk of the work done already

Sadly, I thing that will be a pure pipedream. I could see Chrono Trigger getting the Live a Live treatment, but FFVII always has that gigantic expectation of wanting you to shit yourself with it's presentation. You are right that clever use of assets is all you would need but I just don't see them actually going with it.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Oh is this about the Zach person I kept hearing about?

 

[Michael Wade]

That's what irked me about TellTale, illusion of choice retroactively hurts the experience and annihilates replay value. Any game that makes it an integral aspect should do it right. I know it's multiplying their workload but either do it right or don't do it at all.

I'm kinda curious about which games do it right too. I can't really think of many.

I think I may make a thread on this subject. Ive alway's been very fond of choice based games and peeved at bullshit.

The original characters and settings take precedence over both Disney and Final Fantasy in the series, I think the balance is really fucked up. It's like 60% OCs, 30% Disney, and some FF content to lure you in.

OC bad guys are pretty kickass though. I think they do a great job carrying the torch of FF and being memorable.

But yeah past KH2 the disney stuff started over taking FF significantly and having less and less actual plot relevance. To be honest, even in 1-2 the FF characters are mostly fanservice if you cut out the world building aspect they bring to things.

Birth by sleep literally only had Zack, most other side games had was moogles. Although it is interesting how some OC characters like Axel and Vexen are transparent copy's of FF characters like Reno and Hojo.

Dream drop had World ends with you characters who barely do anything and dont have much significance if you never played the game.

Although KH 4 looks like its going to tie into a cancelled concept for FF15.

Yep, and KH3 supposedly has no FF characters in it, not even cameos I guess. That made me write it off completely, seems like Disney is pushing their weight around.

Remind added back the Radiant Garden FF gang but it's little more then a cameo. Although Yazora has me hyped.



Dude is 100 percent related to noctis (VERSUS noctis) in some way. The fact that Nomura teased this as heavy as he did tells me something interesting is actually going to happen. Im convinced this is a backdoor to bringing it back.

Seeing the quality drop from Square Enix lately has been kind of depressing.

Square's golden goose as far as Im concerned is Nomura. No matter the game, if he's involved in some way ill enjoy it. But if he's not involved it usually sucks. The one exception in my mind was that sequel to TWEWY but I think the localizers fucked it up. (it's an otherwise decent game, just not as memorable compared to the original)

Oh is this about the Zach person I kept hearing about?

The man, the legend.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Sadly, I thing that will be a pure pipedream. I could see Chrono Trigger getting the Live a Live treatment, but FFVII always has that gigantic expectation of wanting you to shit yourself with it's presentation. You are right that clever use of assets is all you would need but I just don't see them actually going with it.

Yeah, it's definitely a pipedream and I don't see them doing it either, but what a missed opportunity.

As for Chrono Trigger, I really hope it gets better treatment than just the standard HD-2D stuff, it's a special game that doesn't deserve to just blend in with the rest of the AA games.

I think I may make a thread on this subject. Ive alway's been very fond of choice based games and peeved at bullshit.

That'd be a fun one.

OC bad guys are pretty kickass though. I think they do a great job carrying the torch of FF and being memorable.

They're hit-and-miss imo, and still, I just really think the series needed better balance, even from the beginning where it was a little better.

Dream drop had World ends with you characters who barely do anything and dont have much significance if you never played the game.

I remember being pretty hyped about that just because I figured it might lead to more Square franchises being involved, like Chrono Trigger or SMRPG characters, but nope, the exact opposite lol

Dude is 100 percent related to noctis (VERSUS noctis) in some way. The fact that Nomura teased this as heavy as he did tells me something interesting is actually going to happen. Im convinced this is a backdoor to bringing it back.

So the idea is he's shoehorning the original FF13 into KH somehow? It's interesting but I'd rather them just remake FF15 with the original plan, but I guess that'd never happen.

 

[Pissmaster]

As for Chrono Trigger, I really hope it gets better treatment than just the standard HD-2D stuff, it's a special game that doesn't deserve to just blend in with the rest of the AA games.

Dogg, its fuckin Steam release is a port of the Android version. Square has no problem treating some of the greatest games ever made like disposable little novelties nobody cares about.

 

[ShitLurker]

As for Chrono Trigger, I really hope it gets better treatment than just the standard HD-2D stuff, it's a special game that doesn't deserve to just blend in with the rest of the AA games.

I would definitely hope it was something sprite based. No 3d if possible outside of some visual pzas to add impact to techs. But something like what is being done for Suikoden looks jarring as fuck.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Dogg, its fuckin Steam release is a port of the Android version. Square has no problem treating some of the greatest games ever made like disposable little novelties nobody cares about.

Yeah, I heard they're particularly bad ports, unfortunately. And Chrono Cross' remaster included a tweaked localization to woke it up. Fuck this company, man...

I would definitely hope it was something sprite based. No 3d if possible outside of some visual pzas to add impact to techs. But something like what is being done for Suikoden looks jarring as fuck.

I think 3D would work, Dragon Quest looks great and it's the same art style. I wouldn't be one bit opposed to it remaining 2D, but nothing pixelated as, if trying to emulate a retro look.

If you look at Rayman Legends, even though it's a whole different genre & art style, it's a good example of a 2D game using hand-drawn art. That would be a great way to handle Chrono Trigger while still keeping its 2D sprites and the general structure of the game.

 

[Michael Wade]

So the idea is he's shoehorning the original FF13 into KH somehow? It's interesting but I'd rather them just remake FF15 with the original plan, but I guess that'd never happen.

I believe that's the long term plan, but for right now the theory is Yazora is the fragmented half of Noctis. and eventually humpty dumpty is going to be put back together again. (which may not be a good thing... original Noctis was not a hero)

The whole implication here is this is the original Stella. (they took away my name, everything about me)

 

[Pissmaster]

Yeah, I heard they're particularly bad ports, unfortunately. And Chrono Cross' remaster included a tweaked localization to woke it up. Fuck this company, man...

A bunch of Steam reviews mention it crashing a lot, too. The good reviews mention you need to install a few mods to get it to run well. Or, you know, just... play it in Duckstation? I have, it runs great there.

 

[Night Crawler]

I would definitely hope it was something sprite based. No 3d if possible outside of some visual pzas to add impact to techs. But something like what is being done for Suikoden looks jarring as fuck.

The Suikoden remasters look good. I don't mind the 2.5D HD thing.

 

[ShitLurker]

The Suikoden remasters look good. I don't mind the 2.5D HD thing.

The backgrounds look great, the characters models look out of place though.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

In FINAL FANTASY Versus XIII, the true story of Noctis is back, just as we faithful and muscular Versus Chads always knew it. Meanwhile, you assholes are outraged by the return of our savior YOZORA, or rather, the true king of the Versus Epic, NOCTIS. That's wonderful. Our dreams and Nomura's dreams really do come true. We can get an R18+ Dark Macbeth-esque Kingdom Hearts epic in our lifetime. ``Versus Returns'' will be released as a standalone title ``Verum Rex'' for PS5. All you're left to do is sit with your mouth wide open and let Yozora's, Nomura's, and VsChad's giant Versus XIII bogus down your throat. SHLORP SHLORP

what did Nomura mean by this?

 

[Level99Manchild]

We barely finished January, and Squeenix is already killing off 2 shitty gacha games in 2024. Tact was fun until the prounouns and "diverse accdents" made the dialogue painful to read through (and it was becoming more of a p2w game like your typical gacha with the Hero family). Meanwhile, we still have the shitty FFT gacha that no one takes seriously after the Tik Tok whore collab.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

We barely finished January, and Squeenix is already killing off 2 shitty gacha games in 2024. Tact was fun until the prounouns and "diverse accdents" made the dialogue painful to read through (and it was becoming more of a p2w game like your typical gacha with the Hero family). Meanwhile, we still have the shitty FFT gacha that no one takes seriously after the Tik Tok whore collab.

Fuck, what pronoun faggotry did they ruin Dragon Quest with? And what diverse shit? Square truly is cancer.

 

[Level99Manchild]

Fuck, what pronoun faggotry did they ruin Dragon Quest with? And what diverse shit? Square truly is cancer.

Too many characters had too many grating accents in Tact where half of the dialogue is impossible to read (It's cute for some of the monsters at first, but it gets grating), and instead of calling you a boy or a girl you're a they when anyone talks about you (this one is a personal gripe for me). I didn't mind the accent thing at first when Tact had the DQ1 event because of the NES game, but the DQ4 event's dialogue was all over the place (Some spoke like they're Russian, others were Gaelic). I don't recall DQ being so big on accents even when it came to exploring different parts of the game worlds.

You know they censored DQM3 for the Switch, right?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

instead of calling you a boy or a girl you're a they when anyone talks about you (this one is a personal gripe for me).

There's no words for how much I hate this shit, I need so many fucking hats.

You know they censored DQM3 for the Switch, right?

You mean that new one? What'd they do?

 

[Level99Manchild]

There's no words for how much I hate this shit, I need so many fucking hats.


You mean that new one? What'd they do?

They censored Maya by covering her up and nerfing her dance when you meet her, and you're actually limited with what you can name your pets. People on reddit were scratching their heads wondering why certain words like master couldn't be used for their monsters. Squeenix's gacha department is damn near fucked at this point.

 

[Pissmaster]

instead of calling you a boy or a girl you're a they when anyone talks about you (this one is a personal gripe for me).

Well that's just obnoxious. I'd guess even the pronoun police would be a little annoyed that you don't even get an option to pick yours.

I don't recall DQ being so big on accents even when it came to exploring different parts of the game worlds.

DQ11 has them, but they're not too overbearing. Rab's dialog takes a little more effort than usual to parse because of his thick Irish accent, with words like "dunnae" instead of "don't know".

 

[Sparky Lurker]

Be either niggerslop, AIslop, capeshitslop or specialneedsslop, Square Enix is now 7 years straight dropping hot garbage for a nonexistent audience:

3 more years and FF6 remake will be halfway done.