The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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MSNBC is comparing one of the Breonna Taylor cops to the men who killed Emmett Till. Along with ZimZam and Kenosha Kyle.

Emmett Till was in a lot of ways the first BLM case. It was 100% fucked, but like many BLM martyrs, there are a lot of inconvenient details surrounding that case.

For example:

Sins of the father and all that..... Louis may have been a shitbag, but Emmett was literally tortured and murdered because of a lie a white bitch said to her fuckstick husband.
 
People talk about NRA and other gun groups lol cucks just buy guns and shoot them at anyone who tells you they're bad. In roblox

What about all the meth and fentanyl in his body? Or his fucked up lungs and heart?
Apprently you'll live if you stick a bunch of cigs in your asshole and mouth after a cup of tobacco smoothie and you'll live. So the fent and meth aint shieeet
 
Apprently you'll live if you stick a bunch of cigs in your asshole and mouth after a cup of tobacco smoothie and you'll live. So the fent and meth aint shieeet
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pictured: George Floyd being super healthy
 
The meth levels consistent with your average medical dose and the fent levels that are below the average of those arrested for DUI using fent?
He had pitiful amounts of meth, basically nonexistant if it wasn't for the nasty hypertension. A doc described it as "enough to wake someone his size up in the morning" when I asked him, although meth is not his speciality

11 ng of fent. 7 ng of processed fent. 18x EC50 at a minimum. 80 ng morphine derivatives in urine.

Floyd was a beefy addict but he wasn't a space marine. 10 ng is enough to put most people under. Coincidentally, that's also when most people are so fucked up they are unable to drive a car in a straight line.

If I injected 10 ng of Fentenyl into some one I would be charged with murder. No questions asked.
 
Lol calm down it's literally existed since 1400. Well over 200 years before "implicitly" in 1620. At least according to the OED.
Who the fuck uses impliedly in day to day life? It’s always implicitly. I’m usually an advocate for the older, more Germanic words (which doesn’t count for either in this case as it is derived from the same Latin root implicate), but impliedly is so retarded it pisses me off.
 
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Impliedly? IMPLIEDLY? Fuck these fucking lawyers and their dumbass fucking legalese. It’s implicitly. IMPLICITLY. I don’t care which one came first anymore, impliedly is the dumbest fucking word I have ever seen.
It's in the dictionary though

 
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I'm opposed to lynching, extra-judicial execution, police brutality, eye-for-an-eye, retribution, and all that fashy/banger shit. We have laws, juries, and trials in this country.

Toledo's killer deserves sympathy, Duante's killer deserves a year in the cooler followed by a long and blessed retirement, Mike Brown's killer deserves happiness in the here and now, Trayvon's killer is a cucked beta male, Oscar Grant's killer got justice and should never be a cop again, Jacob Blake's shooter should have been more aggressive to start with, Tamir Rice's killers rolled in way too hot and should never be cops again, Stephon Clark's killers did nothing wrong, and there are a bunch floating out there that I don't have a strong sense about.

Chauvin's never going to be a cop again and his life is pretty wrecked. Although I think the defense has been damn near heroic, the failure to provide aid and the failure to take leadership sticks a little for me as a human. I don't think manslaughter with a 2-year sentence would be an egregious miscarriage of justice here, but that doesn't mean I think the prosecution proved a damn thing. Trying the other three cops would be a miscarriage of justice, and Keung and Thao should be reinstated to the force or given full pensions. Lane needs to go... not be a cop.

All of this being said, the Emmett Till case has all the hallmarks of the OG BLM case. Not in a bad "LOL Blacks R Dum" way, but in a way where once you see the original and how people saw it at the time and now, you'll understand a lot about the works that followed.

  • Zero disagreement about the who, when, and how, in that these two people definitely killed Till on this night by these means. (The Floyd case is an exception to this, but everyone agrees that when Chauvin put his knee on Floyd, Floyd was alive, and when Chauvin took his knee off of Floyd, Floyd was checked out for good.)
  • Disagreement about what exactly happened in the scenes leading up to the killing, which in turn leads to a lot of supposition. And the supposition, in turn, leads to a coloring of what came before or after.
  • There's a lot that's like a Greek tragedy, at least in the telling. His mother warned him, his cousins warned him, but he flew too close to the sun, got burned, and fell to the earth.
  • The details are gruesome!!! (By the time Till's body made it to Chicago for the funeral, damn. There are probably people alive today who have that smell burned into their nose hairs. The cotton fan was allegedly 70 pounds and the body was still a floater.)
  • Strange family drama where you wonder where this kid's mother was, you know where the kid's dad was, and other relatives are involved in the telling and the aftermath.
  • In the larger narrative, there are roughly 20 people involved. Each of these people can be pinned somewhere on the "Lawful/Chaotic/Good/Evil" square with a fair degree of certainty. But interestingly, you can also get a sense of where they place each other.
  • Media circulating flattering photos taken much earlier.
  • Woman at the center of the case who may or may not be telling the truth because she has conflicting motives.
  • Discussion of age of accountability in some cases, where the victim's actions may or may not be interpreted as sinister or innocent.
  • Weird conspiracy theories about who was where and what happened.
  • He was identified by his dad's ring? Really?
  • Things that may or may not have actually happened being the main things that people know about it.
  • Blacks moving north or west for better opportunities but still coming back to the same problems.
  • Based jury.
  • People around the country developing their own theories of the case based on their ideas about the people involved.
  • Huge media circus.
 
Well its over now, final moments tomorrow. After looking at everything they've presented the technicality of Murder will be tough for a Jury to proceed with. Manslaughter Second or Third Degree could be on the cards.
 
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The meth levels consistent with your average medical dose and the fent levels that are below the average of those arrested for DUI using fent?
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“Here is a toxicology report on deaths from fentanyl overdose: https://ndews.umd.edu/sites/ndews.u...overdoses-in-new-hampshire-final-09-11-17.pdf

The report says:

“Despite the ubiquitous presence of multiple drugs in these decedents, the effects of fentanyl were evidently so strong that there were no statistical differences in the fentanyl level (mean and standard deviation) with or without the presence of these co-intoxicants. The range of fentanyl levels was wide, from 0.75 to 113 ng/mL, with an average of 9.96 ng/mL; nevertheless, the distributions of fentanyl levels were statistically the same, whether fentanyl was the only drug in the toxicology or one of several synergistic co-intoxicants. This suggests that fentanyl presence alone seems to be sufficient to cause death, which are findings similar to those found in Sorg et al., 2016.”

Let’s see if we can understand what we are being told. Fentanyl is itself so toxic that it is sufficient to kill without help from other dangerous drugs in the cocktail. People who died from fentanyl overdose had readings from 0.75 ng/mL to an astounding 113 ng/mL. The average death dose was 9.96 ng/mL.

According to George Floyd’s toxicology report, his blood contained 11.0 ng/mL Fentanyl, plus 5.6 ng/mL norfentanyl, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, and three other drugs.”

So please stop with the ‘DUI dose’ bullshit. Floyd had enough Fentanyl on board to kill him, full stop.
 
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“Here is a toxicology report on deaths from fentanyl overdose: https://ndews.umd.edu/sites/ndews.u...overdoses-in-new-hampshire-final-09-11-17.pdf

The report says:

“Despite the ubiquitous presence of multiple drugs in these decedents, the effects of fentanyl were evidently so strong that there were no statistical differences in the fentanyl level (mean and standard deviation) with or without the presence of these co-intoxicants. The range of fentanyl levels was wide, from 0.75 to 113 ng/mL, with an average of 9.96 ng/mL; nevertheless, the distributions of fentanyl levels were statistically the same, whether fentanyl was the only drug in the toxicology or one of several synergistic co-intoxicants. This suggests that fentanyl presence alone seems to be sufficient to cause death, which are findings similar to those found in Sorg et al., 2016.”

Let’s see if we can understand what we are being told. Fentanyl is itself so toxic that it is sufficient to kill without help from other dangerous drugs in the cocktail. People who died from fentanyl overdose had readings from 0.75 ng/mL to an astounding 113 ng/mL. The average death dose was 9.96 ng/mL.

According to George Floyd’s toxicology report, his blood contained 11.0 ng/mL Fentanyl, plus 5.6 ng/mL norfentanyl, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, and three other drugs.”

So please stop with the ‘DUI dose’ bullshit. Floyd had enough Fentanyl on board to kill him, full stop.
Yeah but he a Fentin'il addict so he be more immune to Fentin'il than them people
 
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